Seasonal working and blatant ignoring of National Agreement.

[aiden01]

Naw there just like me raging
All the people that voted yes to this absolutely shite deal
All our predecessors will be turning in their graves at the surrender of all the terms and conditions they fought for your benefit
The little people have made themselves even smaller and irrelevant
Enjoy your lump sums sheeples

Yet another who posts crap..

Coming from one of the serfs
Mediocrity would describe you perfectly
Enjoy your crumbs

What crumbs i get you will also get. so please accept it was a democratic vote an the result was yes.

[aiden01]

Naw there just like me raging
All the people that voted yes to this absolutely shite deal
All our predecessors will be turning in their graves at the surrender of all the terms and conditions they fought for your benefit
The little people have made themselves even smaller and irrelevant
Enjoy your lump sums sheeples

Yet another who posts crap..

Coming from one of the serfs
Mediocrity would describe you perfectly
Enjoy your crumbs

Been in the job nearly 30 years like to think i fought for some of the terms an conditions too.

[RoyRace14]

Yes I know Aiden, As I say its my opinion, whether Im right or wrong Im allowed it pal,

[scotchy1962]

I think we can all accept that RM are not fulfilling their part of the deal which aids us, meanwhile pushing ahead as fast as they can with all that helps their cause and more.
My feeling is we are reaching a tipping point with the amount of people leaving compared to new starts nowhere near comparable.
They appear to be trying to make it impossible to deliver the USO by not having physically enough posties to deliver it. Suits them fine and they can just blame us as usual.
Have to say they are playing a blinder and since we the union have little too no power they will get away with it.
The yes/no vote thing is getting boring, it's over, we lost, i don't like it but i will get over it, i suggest both sides forget about it and concentrate on the problems at hand.

[CRIBMAD]

Naw there just like me raging
All the people that voted yes to this absolutely shite deal
All our predecessors will be turning in their graves at the surrender of all the terms and conditions they fought for your benefit
The little people have made themselves even smaller and irrelevant
Enjoy your lump sums sheeples

and when its gone , sit back and watch them whine whine whine even more than they are now !

[postslippete]

Not now after you threw delivery under the bus, have had people from distribution say to me, I've kept my allowances, you lot are f****d now!!! How's that sticking together? RM have smashed cwu now, when they come for allowances again, they'll win, cwu top brass just looking after themselves now, That's just my personal opinion mind, I voted no, I lost, I'm not happy but I'm still allowed my opinion, I feel no badness to anyone mind, just disappointment, especially in the 33% i think it was who didn't even vote, there the ones Ill never undeerstand. Good luck to everyone because the only thing guaranteed in his deal is everyone will suffer some time in it,

Although those in delivery have been sh&fted with extra calls and there are fewer posties to deliver everything; there will also potentially be thousands of job losses in processing/distribution as well due to less mail being delivered with changes in methods and superhubs processing parcels. It might not happen overnight but RM always look at reducing its costs first as it's the easiest way for the business to be even more profitable.

CWU top brass always look after themselves first and foremost!! But its not going to get any more members unless it changes its ways and from what I've seen it's very unlikely to do this when some of the senior union guys know that they are on a good thing. Seems to me that RM are still trying to make their rules up regarding the agreement and the union are only prepared to put up any resistance if enough staff complain about it.

[aiden01]

Yes I know Aiden, As I say its my opinion, whether Im right or wrong Im allowed it pal,

Never said you were not allowed your opinion.

[aiden01]

Naw there just like me raging
All the people that voted yes to this absolutely shite deal
All our predecessors will be turning in their graves at the surrender of all the terms and conditions they fought for your benefit
The little people have made themselves even smaller and irrelevant
Enjoy your lump sums sheeples

and when its gone , sit back and watch them whine whine whine even more than they are now !

And the biggest whine?

[hazzeem025]

Seems your not alone

They've backed down. Somebody higher than area has told em it's got to be 24mins a day.

[Stammerking]

CWU Rep involved from the off it was implemented on his weekend off! Was raised officially with Branch Area Rep and a gate meeting was called . Gate meeting was well attended and a Rule 13 was voted on. Delayed outcome and was resolved by Thursday . Rep and sub rep unhappy how it was dealt with but glad of the sensible outcome backed by a solid membership. New entrant new memberships increased over the week with the blatant disregard of a National Agreement.

[geordieboy123]

Ours have stuck to the agreement on this - 24 minutes at the start of your duty Mon -Sat, 10 minutes for part timers...

I work in an SPDO which is in a cluster of three offices we are all starting 24 minutes earlier but standing around for half an hour waiting for the mail to arrive as the mail centre and network drivers are not starting earlier. All COMS in the area were given the option of opting out of the seasonal hours arrangement which seems to be going against the national agreement as opt outs are only for individuals, what a joke.

[SpacePhoenix]

Ours have stuck to the agreement on this - 24 minutes at the start of your duty Mon -Sat, 10 minutes for part timers...

I work in an SPDO which is in a cluster of three offices we are all starting 24 minutes earlier but standing around for half an hour waiting for the mail to arrive as the mail centre and network drivers are not starting earlier. All COMS in the area were given the option of opting out of the seasonal hours arrangement which seems to be going against the national agreement as opt outs are only for individuals, what a joke.

Do you get all your mail in one wave? MCs normally send out the mail in two waves

[geordieboy123]

Ours have stuck to the agreement on this - 24 minutes at the start of your duty Mon -Sat, 10 minutes for part timers...

I work in an SPDO which is in a cluster of three offices we are all starting 24 minutes earlier but standing around for half an hour waiting for the mail to arrive as the mail centre and network drivers are not starting earlier. All COMS in the area were given the option of opting out of the seasonal hours arrangement which seems to be going against the national agreement as opt outs are only for individuals, what a joke.

Do you get all your mail in one wave? MCs normally send out the mail in two waves


No we have two waves, the other two offices get their first wave from the mail centre we wait for a rural driver from another office but works out of ours ( forget what there called) but the second waves in all three offices are from this other office, hope this makes sense.

[yellowbelly]

Ours have stuck to the agreement on this - 24 minutes at the start of your duty Mon -Sat, 10 minutes for part timers...

I work in an SPDO which is in a cluster of three offices we are all starting 24 minutes earlier but standing around for half an hour waiting for the mail to arrive as the mail centre and network drivers are not starting earlier. All COMS in the area were given the option of opting out of the seasonal hours arrangement which seems to be going against the national agreement as opt outs are only for individuals, what a joke.

But seems to be a common sense decision to me even if it goes against the NA if you're standing around waiting for mail to turn up!
Think Woody posted a list of offices that were exempt so there's quite a few 'outliers' of which you are obviously one.

[pieoftheday]

The idea of trialling something is to see if it works. Individual offices doing their own thing obviously fooks that up. Local managers ignoring this trial are racking up problems for the future and for all of us