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heraldmoth
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Re: 24 minutes

Post by heraldmoth »

A2B wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 18:45
pieoftheday wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 18:05
funkflex55 wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 16:16
heraldmoth wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 10:25
Be aware also if u notice on the app, any winter leave, you will now b docked the extra 2 hours per week
So the holidays that I didn't choose to have but were allocated in autumn months now cost more of my entitlement. What a load of bollocks.
Dosnt it balance out? A week off in this period uses 39 hrs but a week in summer will use 35 hrs etc,you still get your full allocation. I'm not sure what's going on with the reduction of leave on the app though :hmmmm
It won't balance out as the summer is in next years allocation, RM should not be taking hours away from 22/23 holiday allowance
Exactly
Dexydog
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Re: 24 minutes

Post by Dexydog »

RoyRace14 wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:48
Dexydog wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:40
RoyRace14 wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:24
It's hours not booked they've took, not hours booked, so instead of having 3 days still to pick I've now only 2
Not true.
I have looked on the app and they have added on hours to the weeks showing as booked for both weeks at the end of this month.
So a net paper loss as it stands now.
Regardless of whether booked or not.
This needs clarification as to whether this evens out over this leave year and the next.
I have already emailed union HQ.
I honestly can't see a way this can be done fairly for everyone and in every scenario.
In respect of everyone being treated the same regardless when any leave is booked.
I reckon the union have dropped the ball on this one.
You're right, what I meant was you had hours left to pick, now they've took them, it was 37 hr week when you picked it now it's 39, just not right
👍
Absolutely not right.
I would suggest anyone reading this thread should email the union as I have.
It needs sorting.
I'm assuming, for now, the union didnt know about this and will be addressing it pronto.
heraldmoth
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Gender: Male

Re: 24 minutes

Post by heraldmoth »

Dexydog wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 20:30
RoyRace14 wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:48
Dexydog wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:40
RoyRace14 wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:24
It's hours not booked they've took, not hours booked, so instead of having 3 days still to pick I've now only 2
Not true.
I have looked on the app and they have added on hours to the weeks showing as booked for both weeks at the end of this month.
So a net paper loss as it stands now.
Regardless of whether booked or not.
This needs clarification as to whether this evens out over this leave year and the next.
I have already emailed union HQ.
I honestly can't see a way this can be done fairly for everyone and in every scenario.
In respect of everyone being treated the same regardless when any leave is booked.
I reckon the union have dropped the ball on this one.
You're right, what I meant was you had hours left to pick, now they've took them, it was 37 hr week when you picked it now it's 39, just not right
👍
Absolutely not right.
I would suggest anyone reading this thread should email the union as I have.
It needs sorting.
I'm assuming, for now, the union didnt know about this and will be addressing it pronto.
I’ve emailed HR although I’d be better with an F.O.I. as for the union what do they really know, they never delved into the nitty gritty
Dexydog
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Re: 24 minutes

Post by Dexydog »

Nice one.
Keep us posted on progress.
yellowbelly
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Re: 24 minutes

Post by yellowbelly »

heraldmoth wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 20:36
Dexydog wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 20:30
RoyRace14 wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:48
Dexydog wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:40
RoyRace14 wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:24
It's hours not booked they've took, not hours booked, so instead of having 3 days still to pick I've now only 2
Not true.
I have looked on the app and they have added on hours to the weeks showing as booked for both weeks at the end of this month.
So a net paper loss as it stands now.
Regardless of whether booked or not.
This needs clarification as to whether this evens out over this leave year and the next.
I have already emailed union HQ.
I honestly can't see a way this can be done fairly for everyone and in every scenario.
In respect of everyone being treated the same regardless when any leave is booked.
I reckon the union have dropped the ball on this one.
You're right, what I meant was you had hours left to pick, now they've took them, it was 37 hr week when you picked it now it's 39, just not right
👍
Absolutely not right.
I would suggest anyone reading this thread should email the union as I have.
It needs sorting.
I'm assuming, for now, the union didnt know about this and will be addressing it pronto.
I’ve emailed HR although I’d be better with an F.O.I. as for the union what do they really know, they never delved into the nitty gritty
FOI requests are not applicable to private companies.
Shadedpostie
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Re: 24 minutes

Post by Shadedpostie »

Anyone know what happens when say a PT is asked to double prep in the mornings now on overtime? Is the 24 minutes extra paid as normal or what?
TopperGas
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Re: 24 minutes

Post by TopperGas »

Shadedpostie wrote:
05 Sep 2023, 17:51
Anyone know what happens when say a PT is asked to double prep in the mornings now on overtime? Is the 24 minutes extra paid as normal or what?
Unlikely as a PT you are now due to work 10 mins OT daily so, at best, you'll get 15 mins extra OT.
clashcityrocker
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Re: 24 minutes

Post by clashcityrocker »

TopperGas wrote:
05 Sep 2023, 18:13
Shadedpostie wrote:
05 Sep 2023, 17:51
Anyone know what happens when say a PT is asked to double prep in the mornings now on overtime? Is the 24 minutes extra paid as normal or what?
Unlikely as a PT you are now due to work 10 mins OT daily so, at best, you'll get 15 mins extra OT.
Which bizarrely would mean they are being paid more than a full timer for the same days work.
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heraldmoth
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Re: 24 minutes

Post by heraldmoth »

yellowbelly wrote:
05 Sep 2023, 17:43
heraldmoth wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 20:36
Dexydog wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 20:30
RoyRace14 wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:48
Dexydog wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:40
RoyRace14 wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:24
It's hours not booked they've took, not hours booked, so instead of having 3 days still to pick I've now only 2
Not true.
I have looked on the app and they have added on hours to the weeks showing as booked for both weeks at the end of this month.
So a net paper loss as it stands now.
Regardless of whether booked or not.
This needs clarification as to whether this evens out over this leave year and the next.
I have already emailed union HQ.
I honestly can't see a way this can be done fairly for everyone and in every scenario.
In respect of everyone being treated the same regardless when any leave is booked.
I reckon the union have dropped the ball on this one.
You're right, what I meant was you had hours left to pick, now they've took them, it was 37 hr week when you picked it now it's 39, just not right
👍
Absolutely not right.
I would suggest anyone reading this thread should email the union as I have.
It needs sorting.
I'm assuming, for now, the union didnt know about this and will be addressing it pronto.
I’ve emailed HR although I’d be better with an F.O.I. as for the union what do they really know, they never delved into the nitty gritty
FOI requests are not applicable to private companies.
Sorry, I meant in terms of getting a straight answer it’s akin to filling out an F.O.I.
yellowbelly
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Re: 24 minutes

Post by yellowbelly »

heraldmoth wrote:
05 Sep 2023, 18:43

Sorry, I meant in terms of getting a straight answer it’s akin to filling out an F.O.I.
Aaah right, agree with your sentiment though. :thumbup
heraldmoth
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Re: 24 minutes

Post by heraldmoth »

yellowbelly wrote:
05 Sep 2023, 19:18
heraldmoth wrote:
05 Sep 2023, 18:43

Sorry, I meant in terms of getting a straight answer it’s akin to filling out an F.O.I.
Aaah right, agree with your sentiment though. :thumbup
Can only apologise for the confusion
pieoftheday
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Re: 24 minutes

Post by pieoftheday »

Dexydog wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 20:30
RoyRace14 wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:48
Dexydog wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:40
RoyRace14 wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 19:24
It's hours not booked they've took, not hours booked, so instead of having 3 days still to pick I've now only 2
Not true.
I have looked on the app and they have added on hours to the weeks showing as booked for both weeks at the end of this month.
So a net paper loss as it stands now.
Regardless of whether booked or not.
This needs clarification as to whether this evens out over this leave year and the next.
I have already emailed union HQ.
I honestly can't see a way this can be done fairly for everyone and in every scenario.
In respect of everyone being treated the same regardless when any leave is booked.
I reckon the union have dropped the ball on this one.
You're right, what I meant was you had hours left to pick, now they've took them, it was 37 hr week when you picked it now it's 39, just not right
👍
Absolutely not right.
I would suggest anyone reading this thread should email the union as I have.
It needs sorting.
I'm assuming, for now, the union didnt know about this and will be addressing it pronto.
Everybody OUT!! Mebe not eh....
claretandblue
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Re: 24 minutes

Post by claretandblue »

Some of the usual suspects in our office have found innovative ways to get out of it.
heraldmoth
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Gender: Male

Re: 24 minutes

Post by heraldmoth »

Dexydog wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 20:45
Nice one.
Keep us posted on progress.
The deduction is due to the seasonal hours work pattern that’s been assigned to your record. I can assure you that you will not miss out on any annual leave hours.

We will make sure that all pre-booked leave is honoured and have processes in place to support this, managers do not need to do anything. And employees will be able to take their full entitlement, e.g. if an employee has 6 weeks of entitlement, they will be able to take 6 weeks.



Annual leave is always deducted according to the work schedule an employee is on in the week in which they take it, so any booked during 'high' season will be using more annual leave, as they're taking more time off work. But again, we have put processes in place for 2023-24, because of there being no 'low' season to balance out the 'high' and with most annual leave already being booked when seasonal went live, to ensure employees get their full entitlement and that pre-booked leave is honoured, as per the agreement.

What I received from HR
A2B
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Re: 24 minutes

Post by A2B »

Pre-booked is the key, I expect the reduction in my unbooked allocation to be reversed once we go back to normal hours