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Hoax or genuine?

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guardianangel
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by guardianangel »

olilew wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 20:46
hans solo wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 20:43
If this is true it could blow their whole agreement out the water
Hopefully the sick pay fiasco next. It would seem one employee has done this where a whole union and their legal team couldn't! Hang your heads in shame CWU if this is true!
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause seasonal hours is illegal and not paying you for 8 months is most definitely illegal,dont listen to the cwu they are in cahoots with illegal activity, maybe they could be taken to court for illegally signing us up.
guardianangel
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by guardianangel »

Bazbuz wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 08:03
oypostie wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 03:07
aiden01 wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 22:06
Martin Walsh wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 21:17
It is fake.
What was
The Loch Ness monster
A post on facebook and possibly other places saying the seasonal hours was being postponed due to legal action. It's not.
It should be its illegal.
scoobydo79
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by scoobydo79 »

guardianangel wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 15:03
Bazbuz wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 08:03
oypostie wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 03:07
aiden01 wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 22:06
Martin Walsh wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 21:17
It is fake.
What was
The Loch Ness monster
A post on facebook and possibly other places saying the seasonal hours was being postponed due to legal action. It's not.
It should be its illegal.
Says Who?
clashcityrocker
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by clashcityrocker »

scoobydo79 wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 16:30

Says Who?
Our resident legal expert who despite having the qualifications to earn loads of money as a QC, has decided to be a postman and impart his wisdom in a chat room.
I am sure his next few posts will outline the steps he is going to take in order to prevent the implementation of seasonal hours and we will all be very grateful.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
N|M
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by N|M »

guardianangel wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 14:57
I've always said seasonal hours and not paying you until 8 months later is illegal it doesn't matter about any agreement if you want paying for he 39 hours you work in the winter your within your legal right to get paid there is nothing the cwu or royal mail can do about it,take it to court and you will win 100 times out of 100.
But in the same context cant they then just pay you for the less hours your going to be working in the quieter times of the year ?
Chitchat
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by Chitchat »

guardianangel wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 15:02
olilew wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 20:46
hans solo wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 20:43
If this is true it could blow their whole agreement out the water
Hopefully the sick pay fiasco next. It would seem one employee has done this where a whole union and their legal team couldn't! Hang your heads in shame CWU if this is true!
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause seasonal hours is illegal and not paying you for 8 months is most definitely illegal,dont listen to the cwu they are in cahoots with illegal activity, maybe they could be taken to court for illegally signing us up.
I would imagine as long as the amount we earn, divided by the hours we worked to earn it. Doesn't drop below the minimum wage, Then they can do it?
guardianangel
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by guardianangel »

N|M wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 16:44
guardianangel wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 14:57
I've always said seasonal hours and not paying you until 8 months later is illegal it doesn't matter about any agreement if you want paying for he 39 hours you work in the winter your within your legal right to get paid there is nothing the cwu or royal mail can do about it,take it to court and you will win 100 times out of 100.
But in the same context cant they then just pay you for the less hours your going to be working in the quieter times of the year ?
Yes they can,seasonal hours is not illegal but with holding pay for 8 months is you should have the choice to be paid for hours worked and yes if you get paid more in the winter obviously you get paid less in the summer,i'd rather be paid for the hours worked.
guardianangel
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by guardianangel »

Chitchat wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 18:12
guardianangel wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 15:02
olilew wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 20:46
hans solo wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 20:43
If this is true it could blow their whole agreement out the water
Hopefully the sick pay fiasco next. It would seem one employee has done this where a whole union and their legal team couldn't! Hang your heads in shame CWU if this is true!
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause seasonal hours is illegal and not paying you for 8 months is most definitely illegal,dont listen to the cwu they are in cahoots with illegal activity, maybe they could be taken to court for illegally signing us up.
I would imagine as long as the amount we earn, divided by the hours we worked to earn it. Doesn't drop below the minimum wage, Then they can do it?
only if you agree to it ,im led to believe an employer must pay you for the hours worked within 12 weeks of doing the work,just because the union have this sketchy agreement doesn't mean its legal,it would be nice if a qualified employment lawyer could clear this up but its no good asking the cwu one.
thefox
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by thefox »

Me as well but its unlikely anyone is going to take it to court in my opinion.
guardianangel
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by guardianangel »

clashcityrocker wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 16:35
scoobydo79 wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 16:30

Says Who?
Our resident legal expert who despite having the qualifications to earn loads of money as a QC, has decided to be a postman and impart his wisdom in a chat room.
I am sure his next few posts will outline the steps he is going to take in order to prevent the implementation of seasonal hours and we will all be very grateful.
You can't stop the seasonal hours 70 % of doughnuts voted for it,but legally you should have the choice of whether you want to be paid for hours worked ,but dont expect the cwu to fight for this their pockets are already full.
daveyeff
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by daveyeff »

Chitchat wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 18:12
guardianangel wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 15:02
olilew wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 20:46
hans solo wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 20:43
If this is true it could blow their whole agreement out the water
Hopefully the sick pay fiasco next. It would seem one employee has done this where a whole union and their legal team couldn't! Hang your heads in shame CWU if this is true!
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause seasonal hours is illegal and not paying you for 8 months is most definitely illegal,dont listen to the cwu they are in cahoots with illegal activity, maybe they could be taken to court for illegally signing us up.
I would imagine as long as the amount we earn, divided by the hours we worked to earn it. Doesn't drop below the minimum wage, Then they can do it?
overtime rate is below basic wage but no one seems to care. you get paid less for doing overtime now than you do for normal hours. seems they can do what they like. no one cares a jot anymore :roll:
LouBarlow
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by LouBarlow »

guardianangel wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 15:02
olilew wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 20:46
hans solo wrote:
23 Aug 2023, 20:43
If this is true it could blow their whole agreement out the water
Hopefully the sick pay fiasco next. It would seem one employee has done this where a whole union and their legal team couldn't! Hang your heads in shame CWU if this is true!
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause seasonal hours is illegal and not paying you for 8 months is most definitely illegal,dont listen to the cwu they are in cahoots with illegal activity, maybe they could be taken to court for illegally signing us up.
Being paid for the hours you work is not really a thing. For example, RM pay you when you are off sick and doing no work. Is this open to a legal challenge from RM? No, it is part of the agreement signed on to by employer and employee via your union. As is the seasonal variation agreement.
aiden01
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by aiden01 »

guardianangel wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 18:52
clashcityrocker wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 16:35
scoobydo79 wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 16:30

Says Who?
Our resident legal expert who despite having the qualifications to earn loads of money as a QC, has decided to be a postman and impart his wisdom in a chat room.
I am sure his next few posts will outline the steps he is going to take in order to prevent the implementation of seasonal hours and we will all be very grateful.
You can't stop the seasonal hours 70 % of doughnuts voted for it,but legally you should have the choice of whether you want to be paid for hours worked ,but dont expect the cwu to fight for this their pockets are already full.
Ffs get over it the majority voted yes.
Nickvilla20
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by Nickvilla20 »

aiden01 wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 20:09
guardianangel wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 18:52
clashcityrocker wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 16:35
scoobydo79 wrote:
24 Aug 2023, 16:30

Says Who?
Our resident legal expert who despite having the qualifications to earn loads of money as a QC, has decided to be a postman and impart his wisdom in a chat room.
I am sure his next few posts will outline the steps he is going to take in order to prevent the implementation of seasonal hours and we will all be very grateful.
You can't stop the seasonal hours 70 % of doughnuts voted for it,but legally you should have the choice of whether you want to be paid for hours worked ,but dont expect the cwu to fight for this their pockets are already full.
Ffs get over it the majority voted yes.
In other posts he saying the jobs never been as easy and he’s getting more pay and no he insults the people who voted yes to get him the pay rise. I don’t see it as been much different to the 5 in 1 duties where you are basically working one day a week for free. I would imagine to most it won’t be a big deal.
plymouth3
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Re: Hoax or genuine?

Post by plymouth3 »

What I don’t understand how I can work less next summer. Unless they take off the extra half duty I’m to my time every day in the summer. Will need these two extra hours to try and complete in the winter