Managerial illegal activity

[Nickvilla20]

Take videos/photos and send them ananomously to local MP/Darren What's His Name/Union/Whoever if you're that concerned. Not that they'll give a f**k.

Sadly the majority of people couldn’t give a damn and at the end of the day we don’t get paid enough to care.

[Neebs]

It's never stopped ...it's just getting the nod of approval from the CWA ..and to think they where all over this during the industrial action ...nothing but silence now
Come in on time ,break on time and go home on time ....take a leaf out of management and CWA book and don't give a feck .

[smok3y666]

Take videos/photos and send them ananomously to local MP/Darren What's His Name/Union/Whoever if you're that concerned. Not that they'll give a f**k.

Sadly the majority of people couldn’t give a damn and at the end of the day we don’t get paid enough to care.

And that's it then. No ones cares so just do whatever management say and fall in line.

[yubin282]

Well I've just returned from my long weekend to find 75% of mail still in the frame (at least 2 days worth) and about 10 tracked items labelled "can't find".

Manager assures me he "did his best" to cover, and I've had the same floater for 18 months.

WORK TO TIME AND GO HOME!!

[nuisance]

If they want you to prioritise Tracked and Parcels then do that let’s be honest what do customers want more their parcels or their junk Mail.

I really don’t understand why people get upset over this let them run the company the way they want and just work your contracted hours and go home.

Some of us were here when wilful delay of the mail was considered gross misconduct on a par with theft. Once it's ingrained in your conscience that something is wrong and if you do it anyway you should be ashamed of yourself, it's not something that you can just turn off caring about. If you go along with this you are complicit in the company's policy of defrauding the first class customers. It's no more fine now than it was back then, just because RM have decided that since they can, they will, get away with it.

[Nickvilla20]

If they want you to prioritise Tracked and Parcels then do that let’s be honest what do customers want more their parcels or their junk Mail.

I really don’t understand why people get upset over this let them run the company the way they want and just work your contracted hours and go home.

Some of us were here when wilful delay of the mail was considered gross misconduct on a par with theft. Once it's ingrained in your conscience that something is wrong and if you do it anyway you should be ashamed of yourself, it's not something that you can just turn off caring about. If you go along with this you are complicit in the company's policy of defrauding the first class customers. It's no more fine now than it was back then, just because RM have decided that since they can, they will, get away with it.

I’ve been working for the company for over 20 years across 3 functions so I know that once we had high standards but those days are long gone sadly and now it’s just any run of the mill job with a high staff turnover.

I’ve always seen it as just a job though could be because I’ve never really had my own duty until 2 years ago. The thing is it is their company to run and if they want to have a poor service then what can we do about it.

[HTPostman]

It’s just a job to me too. I earned £16700 before deductions last financial year, and about £15k after deductions.

As much as I want to care that people aren’t receiving their mail (and I’ll always feel a little ashamed at people not receiving appointments/birthday cards in a timely manner), at the end of the day it’s above my head. I’m not paid enough to worry about it, that’s a job for my much higher paid manager, his much higher paid area manager, their even higher paid superior and so on.

Start on time, do as told, breaks, finish on time. I clock out knowing I’ve done as much as I can, to the best of my ability.

[LouBarlow]

If they want you to prioritise Tracked and Parcels then do that let’s be honest what do customers want more their parcels or their junk Mail.

I really don’t understand why people get upset over this let them run the company the way they want and just work your contracted hours and go home.

Some of us were here when wilful delay of the mail was considered gross misconduct on a par with theft. Once it's ingrained in your conscience that something is wrong and if you do it anyway you should be ashamed of yourself, it's not something that you can just turn off caring about. If you go along with this you are complicit in the company's policy of defrauding the first class customers. It's no more fine now than it was back then, just because RM have decided that since they can, they will, get away with it.

Many of us have been doing the job for 20+ years now and can understand the difference between wilful delay and doing what a manager instructs you to do. One is your decision the other is not. Just do what is instructed of you to your finish time and go home and live your life.

[Nickvilla20]

I’ve never known the job as stress free as it is today. If we have to much we just get told to stream it or leave a loop or two in. The only time I have really problems completing is if we get a bulk posting and then we just get told to stream it. It’s not worth getting stressed over some postcode lottery letters.

[LouBarlow]

I’ve never known the job as stress free as it is today. If we have to much we just get told to stream it or leave a loop or two in. The only time I have really problems completing is if we get a bulk posting and then we just get told to stream it. It’s not worth getting stressed over some postcode lottery letters.

Absolutely. I don’t finish at the early hours I did before privatisation but my working life is definitely less stressful. No rushing around to cut corners. No starting early to finish early (yep I was guilty of this) I now make sure I clear every door to door by the end of the week. Polish the van. I fill my day.

[Nickvilla20]

I’ve never known the job as stress free as it is today. If we have to much we just get told to stream it or leave a loop or two in. The only time I have really problems completing is if we get a bulk posting and then we just get told to stream it. It’s not worth getting stressed over some postcode lottery letters.

Absolutely. I don’t finish at the early hours I did before privatisation but my working life is definitely less stressful. No rushing around to cut corners. No starting early to finish early (yep I was guilty of this) I now make sure I clear every door to door by the end of the week. Polish the van. I fill my day.

A few were pulled in the office a few weeks ago as they were caught on the PDA and in person sitting around doing nothing. They tried to say they hadn’t had their breaks and the managers said that’s no their problem and they should have come back to get more work.

I really don’t understand what’s difficult the company want us to work all our hours so now that’s what I do. If it’s quiet I will leave later and usually have 30 minutes break before I leave.

What is truly amazes me after all the strikes and the way the company has treated us is people still start early and run around deliveries like it’s 1999. I once seen 6 vans parked up and I still had 40 minutes of work left to do. I can say though I’ve never been pulled up by management for any work related issues.

[LouBarlow]

I think it is a mentality thing that some people struggle to change. Why otherwise would you still have the same people coming in early unpaid, when they know if they get back early, they will either be sent back out with more work, or made to sit in the canteen till their finish time anyway?

As you say, you don’t have to park up and do nothing. Just find ways to fill your day, doing the job as instructed. Clean your frame, the van etc. In regards performance - I can’t remember the last time any round was tested in my office, nor individuals questioned on the speed they work at. Unless they are stationary, it is very difficult to conduct people if they complete every day. I understand though many people have unachievable rounds though, so conflict will emerge in those circumstances.

[Ad_bee]

I think it is a mentality thing that some people struggle to change. Why otherwise would you still have the same people coming in early unpaid, when they know if they get back early, they will either be sent back out with more work, or made to sit in the canteen till their finish time anyway?

As you say, you don’t have to park up and do nothing. Just find ways to fill your day, doing the job as instructed. Clean your frame, the van etc. In regards performance - I can’t remember the last time any round was tested in my office, nor individuals questioned on the speed they work at. Unless they are stationary, it is very difficult to conduct people if they complete every day. I understand though many people have unachievable rounds though, so conflict will emerge in those circumstances.

We've had them in, in the past few weeks. Boffins going through PDA Actuals and a bloke who's job was, apparently, 'to see the way we walk' (???)

My delivery got the Gold Standard service from them which wasn't problem since they have 6 years of data to confirm timings. The managers admit that Royal Mail are point-blank refusing Georoute/Pegasus type surveys since they know what they'll find and they want the narrative to be pointing towards hours-out and redundant floorspace/real-estate.

Since 2018 I've been urging them to do just that, PDA Actuals and Georoute, 'them' do 'their job' and I'll do mine but we had a very hostile managment environment in our office possibly because they'd cooked the books and got paid bonuses for phantom productivity improvements.

I'm glad the boffins have been in. I had nothing to hide. I consider my unachievable round to be a blessing and have done since Covid brought in a change of attitude from the managers. I haven't cleared the frame for 6 years and anything left over at the end of the duty time comes back, with their blessing from the Over-run delivery conversation in the morning. Its their problem.

When Commit to Deliver comes in, if it does and how, then thats possibly a different story but for now and since before Covid, I've been surfing the job, just doing it properly and as instructed.

Simple.

[LouBarlow]

I think it is a mentality thing that some people struggle to change. Why otherwise would you still have the same people coming in early unpaid, when they know if they get back early, they will either be sent back out with more work, or made to sit in the canteen till their finish time anyway?

As you say, you don’t have to park up and do nothing. Just find ways to fill your day, doing the job as instructed. Clean your frame, the van etc. In regards performance - I can’t remember the last time any round was tested in my office, nor individuals questioned on the speed they work at. Unless they are stationary, it is very difficult to conduct people if they complete every day. I understand though many people have unachievable rounds though, so conflict will emerge in those circumstances.

We've had them in, in the past few weeks. Boffins going through PDA Actuals and a bloke who's job was, apparently, 'to see the way we walk' (???)

My delivery got the Gold Standard service from them which wasn't problem since they have 6 years of data to confirm timings. The managers admit that Royal Mail are point-blank refusing Georoute/Pegasus type surveys since they know what they'll find and they want the narrative to be pointing towards hours-out and redundant floorspace/real-estate.

Since 2018 I've been urging them to do just that, PDA Actuals and Georoute, 'them' do 'their job' and I'll do mine but we had a very hostile managment environment in our office possibly because they'd cooked the books and got paid bonuses for phantom productivity improvements.

I'm glad the boffins have been in. I had nothing to hide. I consider my unachievable round to be a blessing and have done since Covid brought in a change of attitude from the managers. I haven't cleared the frame for 6 years and anything left over at the end of the duty time comes back, with their blessing from the Over-run delivery conversation in the morning. Its their problem.

When Commit to Deliver comes in, if it does and how, then thats possibly a different story but for now and since before Covid, I've been surfing the job, just doing it properly and as instructed.

Simple.

You’ve been rewarded for doing the job properly. If only the majority followed your example, we wouldn’t be in such a mess.

[pieoftheday]

I think it is a mentality thing that some people struggle to change. Why otherwise would you still have the same people coming in early unpaid, when they know if they get back early, they will either be sent back out with more work, or made to sit in the canteen till their finish time anyway?

As you say, you don’t have to park up and do nothing. Just find ways to fill your day, doing the job as instructed. Clean your frame, the van etc. In regards performance - I can’t remember the last time any round was tested in my office, nor individuals questioned on the speed they work at. Unless they are stationary, it is very difficult to conduct people if they complete every day. I understand though many people have unachievable rounds though, so conflict will emerge in those circumstances.

We've had them in, in the past few weeks. Boffins going through PDA Actuals and a bloke who's job was, apparently, 'to see the way we walk' (???)

My delivery got the Gold Standard service from them which wasn't problem since they have 6 years of data to confirm timings. The managers admit that Royal Mail are point-blank refusing Georoute/Pegasus type surveys since they know what they'll find and they want the narrative to be pointing towards hours-out and redundant floorspace/real-estate.

Since 2018 I've been urging them to do just that, PDA Actuals and Georoute, 'them' do 'their job' and I'll do mine but we had a very hostile managment environment in our office possibly because they'd cooked the books and got paid bonuses for phantom productivity improvements.

I'm glad the boffins have been in. I had nothing to hide. I consider my unachievable round to be a blessing and have done since Covid brought in a change of attitude from the managers. I haven't cleared the frame for 6 years and anything left over at the end of the duty time comes back, with their blessing from the Over-run delivery conversation in the morning. Its their problem.

When Commit to Deliver comes in, if it does and how, then thats possibly a different story but for now and since before Covid, I've been surfing the job, just doing it properly and as instructed.

Simple.

Not sure I ever got my head around Commit to Deliver. Ok so I get the bit about delivering everything for a particular duty has to go no matter how long it takes, but would going over 37hrs a week be paid OT? Or would we be salaried and bank hrs over the 37 hrs. Or would RM be wanting an open end working week? That cant be right, can it?