16 weeks untaxed (was 34) and 12 weeks (taxed) PILON for most employees so as stated previously about £8000 less than what it was. Plus any annual leave left.
You are entitled to 6 months full pay and six months half pay in a 4 year rolling period so yes you would have used up your sick pay.
2 posties in the office I am In, have had their 6 months full pay and 6 months half pay, now they are on SSPPR (Statuary Sick Pay at Pension Rate)
A quick Google search for the will give you all the info you need.
Yeah that's kinda what I posted mate.
It's not statutory pay at pension rate, it's just called sick pay pension rate and you have to be a member of the old pension to get it.
I think you will find it's 1 year full sick in any 4 year period.
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As i originally stated - you can have 1 years full pay in any 4 year period (as long as you don't take half pay). But only 6 months in any 1 year .
IE - 5 months year 1
4 months year 2
3 months year 4
Yeah that's kinda what I posted mate.
It's not statutory pay at pension rate, it's just called sick pay pension rate and you have to be a member of the old pension to get it.
sorry i stand corrected, you are corect, i was close though haha
16 weeks untaxed (was 34) and 12 weeks (taxed) PILON for most employees so as stated previously about £8000 less than what it was. Plus any annual leave left.
thats what i heard too hope so ! still been shafted by CWU though !
Anyone who's gone all the way through the IHR process say by mid July and then HR failed to process it as quickly as normal I'd be looking into making a Tribunal claim. I'd be accepting the new IHR payment explicitly under protest and then making a simple contractural claim at the tribunal for the difference between the two amounts.
It's still worth a tribunal claim I think if you can show you requested IHR before say end of June and HR didn't progress it AND you subsequently received it under the new terms. HR are not judge and jury much as we allow them to be , their role is to implement the agreements and as gatekeepers to your terms and conditions, especially the IHR process, they have to act in a timely fashion. All the carping about no money means jack to a tribunal panel, they follow the contract and agreement.
All those who are willing to " trust " the CWU leadership can't explain away the reduced IHR payment which is a cynical attack carried out behind the backs of those they represent.
IHR is compensation for disability and should never have been a bargaining chip in a company who for decades have the worst musculoskeletal record in any industry in the UK.
The likes of Andy Furey who couldn't hit a coos arse with a banjo nor drag his own arse up a flight of stairs has agreed outdoor spans on an ageing workforce knowing this will lead to more IHR and increased costs for RM.
Instead of using the Scottish tenement study ( kicked into long grass ) and Royal Mail/ Corrine Pearson 2015 study to improve ergonomics and reduce injury and disability they have agreed to do nothing and instead accepted that on a regular basis a large % of delivery staff will be shown the door on a pittance.
An acknowledgement of the serious musculoskeletal problems within in Royal Mail and the reasons why the leadership came to a figure of £8000 compensation has not been forthcoming.
But seems to many on these threads this is just living in the "real " world and to question otherwise is " anti union "
All those who are willing to " trust " the CWU leadership can't explain away the reduced IHR payment which is a cynical attack carried out behind the backs of those they represent.
IHR is compensation for disability and should never have been a bargaining chip in a company who for decades have the worst musculoskeletal record in any industry in the UK.
The likes of Andy Furey who couldn't hit a coos arse with a banjo nor drag his own arse up a flight of stairs has agreed outdoor spans on an ageing workforce knowing this will lead to more IHR and increased costs for RM.
Instead of using the Scottish tenement study ( kicked into long grass ) and Royal Mail/ Corrine Pearson 2015 study to improve ergonomics and reduce injury and disability they have agreed to do nothing and instead accepted that on a regular basis a large % of delivery staff will be shown the door on a pittance.
An acknowledgement of the serious musculoskeletal problems within in Royal Mail and the reasons why the leadership came to a figure of £8000 compensation has not been forthcoming.
But seems to many on these threads this is just living in the "real " world and to question otherwise is " anti union "
Yer Ma.
Ihr is a compensation for disabilty how? know plenty who have left on ihr an working still without any problems.ihr is only granted if you are no longer capable of working for royal mail in any function.also where does it say compensation is £8,000 think its around £14,000
All those who are willing to " trust " the CWU leadership can't explain away the reduced IHR payment which is a cynical attack carried out behind the backs of those they represent.
IHR is compensation for disability and should never have been a bargaining chip in a company who for decades have the worst musculoskeletal record in any industry in the UK.
The likes of Andy Furey who couldn't hit a coos arse with a banjo nor drag his own arse up a flight of stairs has agreed outdoor spans on an ageing workforce knowing this will lead to more IHR and increased costs for RM.
Instead of using the Scottish tenement study ( kicked into long grass ) and Royal Mail/ Corrine Pearson 2015 study to improve ergonomics and reduce injury and disability they have agreed to do nothing and instead accepted that on a regular basis a large % of delivery staff will be shown the door on a pittance.
An acknowledgement of the serious musculoskeletal problems within in Royal Mail and the reasons why the leadership came to a figure of £8000 compensation has not been forthcoming.
But seems to many on these threads this is just living in the "real " world and to question otherwise is " anti union "
Yer Ma.
Ihr is a compensation for disabilty how? know plenty who have left on ihr an working still without any problems.ihr is only granted if you are no longer capable of working for royal mail in any function.also where does it say compensation is £8,000 think its around £14,000
Have you read the 2015 Delivery study and the recommendations ?
Have you done a review of IHR over 10 years in any delivery office
As part of that review some still receiving treatment 6 years after leaving Royal Mail.
No, IHR is meant to be incidental to working for Royal Mail and not a direct consequence of ignoring your own safety studies hence why some of us are looking into further compensation for those who may leave on the reduced IHR.
All those who are willing to " trust " the CWU leadership can't explain away the reduced IHR payment which is a cynical attack carried out behind the backs of those they represent.
IHR is compensation for disability and should never have been a bargaining chip in a company who for decades have the worst musculoskeletal record in any industry in the UK.
The likes of Andy Furey who couldn't hit a coos arse with a banjo nor drag his own arse up a flight of stairs has agreed outdoor spans on an ageing workforce knowing this will lead to more IHR and increased costs for RM.
Instead of using the Scottish tenement study ( kicked into long grass ) and Royal Mail/ Corrine Pearson 2015 study to improve ergonomics and reduce injury and disability they have agreed to do nothing and instead accepted that on a regular basis a large % of delivery staff will be shown the door on a pittance.
An acknowledgement of the serious musculoskeletal problems within in Royal Mail and the reasons why the leadership came to a figure of £8000 compensation has not been forthcoming.
But seems to many on these threads this is just living in the "real " world and to question otherwise is " anti union "
Yer Ma.
Ihr is a compensation for disabilty how? know plenty who have left on ihr an working still without any problems.ihr is only granted if you are no longer capable of working for royal mail in any function.also where does it say compensation is £8,000 think its around £14,000
My mate had knee problems so couldn't walk for long distances so asked management if he could do an indoor job and was point blank refused and given IHR,so now he is working for another company working indoors on more money,you couldn't make it up 100's of agency guys and younger guys in the mail centre and they paid him off no wonder they are losing millions,but i suppose that's all in the plan thou to get rid of as many delivery guys on the old contracts,give me redundancy and i'll go tomorrow the world of work is a whole lot brighter outside of Royal Mail.
My mate had knee problems so couldn't walk for long distances so asked management if he could do an indoor job and was point blank refused and given IHR,so now he is working for another company working indoors on more money,you couldn't make it up 100's of agency guys and younger guys in the mail centre and they paid him off no wonder they are losing millions,but i suppose that's all in the plan thou to get rid of as many delivery guys on the old contracts,give me redundancy and i'll go tomorrow the world of work is a whole lot brighter outside of Royal Mail.
Most posties prefer the indoor work element as it breaks up the day better. I actually preferred it when we had a 2nd delivery back in the day and the only reason why Royal Mail will never revert back to this is because it costs them more money. The profits that RM made when they introduced bigger rounds with the introduction of the Single Daily Delivery were colossal.
Royal Mail have done everything they can to get rid of this indoor element to make outdoor spans bigger. I would be very surprised if Royal Mail in 2 years time after they have paid staff off on IHR, with reduced sick pay, with seasonal variations, with less staff and failing the USO; that we don't make huge profits.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
