Pay & Lump Sum Timetable

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No probs. I have no problem with people voting yes or no. I do have a problem with the non democratic who still talk s**t.

i have my opinions and my views on alot of things, some which may be considered contervertial.

as i have mentioned above in previous posts, i was a strong NO voter, mainly due to the sick pay and IHR side, i also not a fan of the lump sum payments, as i am of the camp that Lump sums are not as good as if those lump sums were consolodated into our actual hourly rate.

i am certainly not happy with the result, i dont mind admitting to this, but i not one to spit the dummy out just becuase things didnt go the way i wanted them to.




theres many many things i could touch on, as to why i think we as a union are in this position now, but this would just be my opinion and we are all entilted to them.

what ever happens from now on i wish no ill feelings towards any collegue or that.

good luck bro

Do you accept the decision?

Don’t accept the result because the majority voted for it !

As an anti Brexit voter, I learned an important lesson from Nigel Farage, Even if the majority voted to join the EU in a democratic referendum , if you makeup enough lies,and keep repeating them, you’ll convince enough people who’ll only skim the surface of the facts to follow you. After 20+ years of twisting the truth, he won over, just enough people to get his way.( and we’re paying the price for that decision) I work alongside Hard core Brexiteers who now admit that they didn’t vote for this, and given the chance to vote again, would vote to remain !

I will NEVER accept the removal of my t&c’s.

What do you think will happen at the end of the agreement when RM recover their profitability? They’ll reward you for your loyalty ? They’ll develop a conscience and decide to fairly share the wealth that’s been created by giving up your t& c’s. Or maybe they’ll just take away the rest of the rights people have previously lost money by going on strike for in the past, and reward themselves with increased bonus’s ???
You have been duped, but sadly, not only by RM ( we all expected that ) but also by the CWU too.

“RM are about to go bust, accept less to keep you job “ ……………..

Keep up the lies , and you’ll get your way with anything

A sad state of affairs for all whether you voted yes or no

Most decent people will end up leaving in the next few years, leaving a transcendent workforce who have no long term interest in RM

But on the bright side, if you’re on the board, a major shareholder or at the top of the CWU , the future is bright!

[aiden01]

No probs. I have no problem with people voting yes or no. I do have a problem with the non democratic who still talk s**t.

i have my opinions and my views on alot of things, some which may be considered contervertial.

as i have mentioned above in previous posts, i was a strong NO voter, mainly due to the sick pay and IHR side, i also not a fan of the lump sum payments, as i am of the camp that Lump sums are not as good as if those lump sums were consolodated into our actual hourly rate.

i am certainly not happy with the result, i dont mind admitting to this, but i not one to spit the dummy out just becuase things didnt go the way i wanted them to.




theres many many things i could touch on, as to why i think we as a union are in this position now, but this would just be my opinion and we are all entilted to them.

what ever happens from now on i wish no ill feelings towards any collegue or that.

good luck bro

Do you accept the decision?

Don’t accept the result because the majority voted for it !

As an anti Brexit voter, I learned an important lesson from Nigel Farage, Even if the majority voted to join the EU in a democratic referendum , if you makeup enough lies,and keep repeating them, you’ll convince enough people who’ll only skim the surface of the facts to follow you. After 20+ years of twisting the truth, he won over, just enough people to get his way.( and we’re paying the price for that decision) I work alongside Hard core Brexiteers who now admit that they didn’t vote for this, and given the chance to vote again, would vote to remain !

I will NEVER accept the removal of my t&c’s.

What do you think will happen at the end of the agreement when RM recover their profitability? They’ll reward you for your loyalty ? They’ll develop a conscience and decide to fairly share the wealth that’s been created by giving up your t& c’s. Or maybe they’ll just take away the rest of the rights people have previously lost money by going on strike for in the past, and reward themselves with increased bonus’s ???
You have been duped, but sadly, not only by RM ( we all expected that ) but also by the CWU too.

“RM are about to go bust, accept less to keep you job “ ……………..

Keep up the lies , and you’ll get your way with anything

A sad state of affairs for all whether you voted yes or no

Most decent people will end up leaving in the next few years, leaving a transcendent workforce who have no long term interest in RM

But on the bright side, if you’re on the board, a major shareholder or at the top of the CWU , the future is bright!

Nobody was duped ( maybe except the keyboard warriors on here) thats why the YES vote was 75-8% you can only fool people some of the time you cant fool them all of the time.

[markyRFC]

Do you accept the decision?

i do accept the outcome as what choice do i have, i accept thats its a democracy yes and the results are a reflection of everyone not just me. Just becuase i accept this and acknowledge this, doesnt mean to say i have to like it.

The only choice you have is to leave Royal Mail. if you're choice is to leave the Union, then you're making our collective bargaining weaker.

Sadly i wont have a choice soon as RM are forcing me out the door (due to a disability) after 10 years of service. the last 2 years ive had 100% attendance. just showing you reasons as to why i came to my decision is all

How are you being forced out the door if you have (100% attendance) in last 2 years.especially if your covered under ea. far from an expert but surely somebody can help.

was employed as a postperson/driver roughly 10 years ago, did this for rougly 8 years, developed bad blood circulation in both legs. got indoor work whilst waiting for help, attended vascular surgeon for a few months, had angio plasty on both legs, not sucessful, told my DOM on may 30th, was told 1 week later after doing scoping that no other positions available.

i dont want to lose my job, i dont want to throw in towel but sadly i feel as if i now being forced out, but stalling me till the new IHR comes in

during these 2 years not 1 day off, i changed my shifts 3 times to suit them, i took 3 days holiday on the day after my angioplasty so i wasnt going on the sick for these days, just feel as if i thought i was doing the right thing to now get shafted

[markyRFC]

Do you accept the decision?

i do accept the outcome as what choice do i have, i accept thats its a democracy yes and the results are a reflection of everyone not just me. Just becuase i accept this and acknowledge this, doesnt mean to say i have to like it.

The only choice you have is to leave Royal Mail. if you're choice is to leave the Union, then you're making our collective bargaining weaker.

Sadly i wont have a choice soon as RM are forcing me out the door (due to a disability) after 10 years of service. the last 2 years ive had 100% attendance. just showing you reasons as to why i came to my decision is all

How are you being forced out the door if you have (100% attendance) in last 2 years.especially if your covered under ea. far from an expert but surely somebody can help.

was employed as a postperson/driver roughly 10 years ago, did this for rougly 8 years, developed bad blood circulation in both legs (claudication). got indoor work whilst waiting for help, attended vascular surgeon for a few months, had angio plasty on both legs, not sucessful, told my DOM on may 30th, was told 1 week later after doing scoping that no other positions available.

i dont want to lose my job, i dont want to throw in towel but sadly i feel as if i now being forced out, but stalling me till the new IHR comes in

during these 2 years not 1 day off, i changed my shifts 3 times to suit them, i took 3 days holiday on the day after my angioplasty so i wasnt going on the sick for these days, just feel as if i thought i was doing the right thing to now get shafted

[aiden01]

Do you accept the decision?

i do accept the outcome as what choice do i have, i accept thats its a democracy yes and the results are a reflection of everyone not just me. Just becuase i accept this and acknowledge this, doesnt mean to say i have to like it.

The only choice you have is to leave Royal Mail. if you're choice is to leave the Union, then you're making our collective bargaining weaker.

Sadly i wont have a choice soon as RM are forcing me out the door (due to a disability) after 10 years of service. the last 2 years ive had 100% attendance. just showing you reasons as to why i came to my decision is all

How are you being forced out the door if you have (100% attendance) in last 2 years.especially if your covered under ea. far from an expert but surely somebody can help.

was employed as a postperson/driver roughly 10 years ago, did this for rougly 8 years, developed bad blood circulation in both legs. got indoor work whilst waiting for help, attended vascular surgeon for a few months, had angio plasty on both legs, not sucessful, told my DOM on may 30th, was told 1 week later after doing scoping that no other positions available.

i dont want to lose my job, i dont want to throw in towel but sadly i feel as if i now being forced out, but stalling me till the new IHR comes in

Not sure what your diagnosis mate but can they transfer you to do any work in a mc.

[markyRFC]

Not sure what your diagnosis mate but can they transfer you to do any work in a mc.

my manager, after 3 days, came back and told me after phoning about there was nothing for me elsewhere

[aiden01]

Not sure what your diagnosis mate but can they transfer you to do any work in a mc.

my manager, after 3 days, came back and told me after phoning about there was nothing for me elsewhere

all i can say is if still in union contact your rep if still in union other than that sorry for your predicament.

[markyRFC]

Not sure what your diagnosis mate but can they transfer you to do any work in a mc.

my manager, after 3 days, came back and told me after phoning about there was nothing for me elsewhere

all i can say is if still in union contact your rep if still in union other than that sorry for your predicament.

yes still in the union, and yes i have messaged him

[SogladIvotedBrexit]

ppppp

[roadrunner bill]

End of September to pay out.. f u c k I ng piss take that..

[LouBarlow]

And the people who voted no, will do a little dance when they receive their bonus. I've never heard so much s**t in my life. It's over, it's done with, accept it.

Couldn’t agree more. All these No voters who claimed they were doing so because they had dignity or principles will show they have neither when they pocket this money in September. If they did, they would refuse it, or donate it to charity.

I won’t hold my breath.

You were willing to accept whatever crumbs were thrown our way by RM early in the dispute weren’t you?

sorry i dont quite understand your question

Sorry it was for Lou. I could be wrong but I think he was against any strike action and was willing to take whatever was offered early in the dispute. If so maybe he should refuse the lump sums.
And for clarity I voted yes .

What are you on about you buffoon? I was on the gate for every strike day.

[Clairedarep]

No probs. I have no problem with people voting yes or no. I do have a problem with the non democratic who still talk s**t.

Just because a high number were “duped” doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, how many people were vaccinated on boris’ advice? And he is now known to be a habitual liar, make the lie big enough and people will believe it, sheep always follow the flock, biggest problem on this planet
i have my opinions and my views on alot of things, some which may be considered contervertial.

as i have mentioned above in previous posts, i was a strong NO voter, mainly due to the sick pay and IHR side, i also not a fan of the lump sum payments, as i am of the camp that Lump sums are not as good as if those lump sums were consolodated into our actual hourly rate.

i am certainly not happy with the result, i dont mind admitting to this, but i not one to spit the dummy out just becuase things didnt go the way i wanted them to.




theres many many things i could touch on, as to why i think we as a union are in this position now, but this would just be my opinion and we are all entilted to them.

what ever happens from now on i wish no ill feelings towards any collegue or that.

good luck bro

Do you accept the decision?

Don’t accept the result because the majority voted for it !

As an anti Brexit voter, I learned an important lesson from Nigel Farage, Even if the majority voted to join the EU in a democratic referendum , if you makeup enough lies,and keep repeating them, you’ll convince enough people who’ll only skim the surface of the facts to follow you. After 20+ years of twisting the truth, he won over, just enough people to get his way.( and we’re paying the price for that decision) I work alongside Hard core Brexiteers who now admit that they didn’t vote for this, and given the chance to vote again, would vote to remain !

I will NEVER accept the removal of my t&c’s.

What do you think will happen at the end of the agreement when RM recover their profitability? They’ll reward you for your loyalty ? They’ll develop a conscience and decide to fairly share the wealth that’s been created by giving up your t& c’s. Or maybe they’ll just take away the rest of the rights people have previously lost money by going on strike for in the past, and reward themselves with increased bonus’s ???
You have been duped, but sadly, not only by RM ( we all expected that ) but also by the CWU too.

“RM are about to go bust, accept less to keep you job “ ……………..

Keep up the lies , and you’ll get your way with anything

A sad state of affairs for all whether you voted yes or no

Most decent people will end up leaving in the next few years, leaving a transcendent workforce who have no long term interest in RM

But on the bright side, if you’re on the board, a major shareholder or at the top of the CWU , the future is bright!

Nobody was duped ( maybe except the keyboard warriors on here) thats why the YES vote was 75-8% you can only fool people some of the time you cant fool them all of the time.

[scotchy1962]

Reading through the various comments i have decided a few things,
A lot of people are struggling with democracy, i voted NO, but the vote went yes, that's democracy for you.
I can live with the result and i suggest the rest of you do too, it ain't gonna change and all you are doing is stressing yourself.
After all this Lou, Aiden and Jabba the hutt also have to learn that goading people and using the result as part of their ammo is actually a pretty cheap shot and not really helping.
We need a moment of calm where the workforce stop fighting with itself and RM stop winding people up, but the chances of that are slim.
The union have been poor through the end of this dispute, perhaps they could get RM to take a few weeks off with their agenda to let the workers breath and digest what's happened.
And we are all entitled to the lump sum and payrise and we may dispose of it how we see fit, not how some of you think we should use it.

[antcpfc]

And the people who voted no, will do a little dance when they receive their bonus. I've never heard so much s**t in my life. It's over, it's done with, accept it.

Couldn’t agree more. All these No voters who claimed they were doing so because they had dignity or principles will show they have neither when they pocket this money in September. If they did, they would refuse it, or donate it to charity.

I won’t hold my breath.

You were willing to accept whatever crumbs were thrown our way by RM early in the dispute weren’t you?

sorry i dont quite understand your question

Sorry it was for Lou. I could be wrong but I think he was against any strike action and was willing to take whatever was offered early in the dispute. If so maybe he should refuse the lump sums.
And for clarity I voted yes .

What are you on about you buffoon? I was on the gate for every strike day.

Then I apologise. I must have my posters mixed up.

[LouBarlow]

After all this Lou, Aiden and Jabba the hutt also have to learn that goading people and using the result as part of their ammo is actually a pretty cheap shot and not really helping.
We need a moment of calm where the workforce stop fighting with itself.

I can’t speak for others but I’m not goading anyone, merely pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of some on here who banged on about ‘honour’ and ‘principles’ as they defended a no vote who are now showing absolutely none by accepting this ‘bribe’ they were so offended by. Not all were like this, but I’m afraid for some on here, the truth hurts.

As for a moment of calm - what about all the threads of people stamping their feet and rushing to leave the union? I wouldn’t class that as calm. A reduced Union membership will do far more damage than anything in this agreement long term, so you’re damn right I am going to keep posting and emphasising this.