The 6 per cent rise only

[guardianangel]

Letter business going down and down parcel booming heaviest summer ever see on parcel side

Not in my area.
Parcel volumes have been low all summer and collapsed in the last two weeks.
LATs been cancelled most days last week.
Just shows you can't project anything across the whole business.

Its all variable,my office has lost so many staff we fail 5 days out of 6, mail and parcels stacked up everywhere,i work in a busy city office ,my friend who works in a small rural office easily completes everyday no one has left and pretty much left alone to do their own thing,they have had their boss for years and is pretty easy going my boss is a t--t and thinks he's Richard Branson.

[Burghboy]

I can’t remember the last time any of my loops had more than one bundle of mail. Even with the extra 80 calls added to my delivery I’m still finishing comfortably everyday within my time.

I’ve not completed my delivery once since the revision, they flood our DO with indoor prep overtime and we still can’t get out on time, from our 78 deliveries at least 40 part walk failures some full walks fail every day.

[Shadedpostie]

I can’t remember the last time any of my loops had more than one bundle of mail. Even with the extra 80 calls added to my delivery I’m still finishing comfortably everyday within my time.

I’ve not completed my delivery once since the revision, they flood our DO with indoor prep overtime and we still can’t get out on time, from our 78 deliveries at least 40 part walk failures some full walks fail every day.

Same in my office only the majority of them complete, of course coming in an hour early on top of that for nothing helps them

[kazardaimenu]

The wealthy areas have light bags and are cushy walks in my office. It’s the poorer areas that have no safe places and where no one is in during the day that love a packet

[Nickvilla20]

I can’t remember the last time any of my loops had more than one bundle of mail. Even with the extra 80 calls added to my delivery I’m still finishing comfortably everyday within my time.

I’ve not completed my delivery once since the revision, they flood our DO with indoor prep overtime and we still can’t get out on time, from our 78 deliveries at least 40 part walk failures some full walks fail every day.

It probably helped that the revision before actually worked I imagine if you was already struggling to begin with then you have zero chance of getting done. Every office seems to be different.

[norris9]

How does this compare too previous years of wage rises I remember one year 5 per cent,everything up by 15-20 per cent this year not good.

We already got 2%, we will be getting 6% added to our pay and a £1,400 lump sum if we vote YES....

I think it's adequate. I can't complain about the pay rise.


The sick pay policy sucks and later starts/finishes suck.

Still, I voted YES as I think it's highly unlikely we will get a better deal by voting NO, in fact I think we will end up in a position where the company is totally screwed and we end up stuck with no pay rise and a lot of job losses.

[SpacePhoenix]

Letter business going down and down parcel booming heaviest summer ever see on parcel side

Not in my area.
Parcel volumes have been low all summer and collapsed in the last two weeks.
LATs been cancelled most days last week.
Just shows you can't project anything across the whole business.

Its all variable,my office has lost so many staff we fail 5 days out of 6, mail and parcels stacked up everywhere,i work in a busy city office ,my friend who works in a small rural office easily completes everyday no one has left and pretty much left alone to do their own thing,they have had their boss for years and is pretty easy going my boss is a t--t and thinks he's Richard Branson.

Rural walks are bound to be different as chances are there's way less DPs per walk but the DPs will be physically located further apart, and there's probably extra local knowledge need as to where the DPs are located, hidey holes for packets, etc

[Nickvilla20]

Letter business going down and down parcel booming heaviest summer ever see on parcel side

Not in my area.
Parcel volumes have been low all summer and collapsed in the last two weeks.
LATs been cancelled most days last week.
Just shows you can't project anything across the whole business.

Its all variable,my office has lost so many staff we fail 5 days out of 6, mail and parcels stacked up everywhere,i work in a busy city office ,my friend who works in a small rural office easily completes everyday no one has left and pretty much left alone to do their own thing,they have had their boss for years and is pretty easy going my boss is a t--t and thinks he's Richard Branson.

Rural walks are bound to be different as chances are there's way less DPs per walk but the DPs will be physically located further apart, and there's probably extra local knowledge need as to where the DPs are located, hidey holes for packets, etc

Many rurals are pushing 600 plus calls now. I’ve always found rural duties to be worse than the town ones. Then again if you are still working in a small SPDO you can get away with more.

[SpacePhoenix]

Letter business going down and down parcel booming heaviest summer ever see on parcel side

Not in my area.
Parcel volumes have been low all summer and collapsed in the last two weeks.
LATs been cancelled most days last week.
Just shows you can't project anything across the whole business.

Its all variable,my office has lost so many staff we fail 5 days out of 6, mail and parcels stacked up everywhere,i work in a busy city office ,my friend who works in a small rural office easily completes everyday no one has left and pretty much left alone to do their own thing,they have had their boss for years and is pretty easy going my boss is a t--t and thinks he's Richard Branson.

Rural walks are bound to be different as chances are there's way less DPs per walk but the DPs will be physically located further apart, and there's probably extra local knowledge need as to where the DPs are located, hidey holes for packets, etc

Many rurals are pushing 600 plus calls now. I’ve always found rural duties to be worse than the town ones. Then again if you are still working in a small SPDO you can get away with more.

Do the rural walks have a ton of driving between towns, villages and farms?

[Nickvilla20]

Letter business going down and down parcel booming heaviest summer ever see on parcel side

Not in my area.
Parcel volumes have been low all summer and collapsed in the last two weeks.
LATs been cancelled most days last week.
Just shows you can't project anything across the whole business.

Its all variable,my office has lost so many staff we fail 5 days out of 6, mail and parcels stacked up everywhere,i work in a busy city office ,my friend who works in a small rural office easily completes everyday no one has left and pretty much left alone to do their own thing,they have had their boss for years and is pretty easy going my boss is a t--t and thinks he's Richard Branson.

Rural walks are bound to be different as chances are there's way less DPs per walk but the DPs will be physically located further apart, and there's probably extra local knowledge need as to where the DPs are located, hidey holes for packets, etc

Many rurals are pushing 600 plus calls now. I’ve always found rural duties to be worse than the town ones. Then again if you are still working in a small SPDO you can get away with more.

Do the rural walks have a ton of driving between towns, villages and farms?

Some do but some also have urban sprawl. One I use to cover at my old office was all driving and that was over 500 calls. I would say many are probably semi rural with farms,villages and probably a new housing estate.

[grchpo]

How does this compare too previous years of wage rises I remember one year 5 per cent,everything up by 15-20 per cent this year not good.

We already got 2%, we will be getting 6% added to our pay and a £1,400 lump sum if we vote YES....

I think it's adequate. I can't complain about the pay rise.


The sick pay policy sucks and later starts/finishes suck.

Still, I voted YES as I think it's highly unlikely we will get a better deal by voting NO, in fact I think we will end up in a position where the company is totally screwed and we end up stuck with no pay rise and a lot of job losses.

You think it's adequate, did you not spend 18 days on strike to get a better deal than this.
As you voted yes you deserve everything you get

[Woody Guthrie]

You think it's adequate, did you not spend 18 days on strike to get a better deal than this.
As you voted yes you deserve everything you get

He's made it clear he's voted yes because he doesn't believe voting no will result in a better deal.

It is the only logical way to approach the situation, you either think this is the best deal possible and vote yes or you think a better deal is possible and vote no.

The number of days we were on strike, the things we are losing or gaining and the emotion involved all become irrelevant.

If you voting no results in a worse situation what does he deserve then?

[Nickvilla20]

I think voting no for many probably is an emotional response and I get why. We went on strike for 18 days some even marched on parliament so I get why many will feel betrayed by the CWU.

Sadly pragmatism is needed now we aren’t getting any concessions if we vote no if anything it’s just weakens the union even more.

Later starts, sick pay changes and longer deliveries as well as reduced T&Cs are coming regardless of how we vote.

[grchpo]

The sick policy sucks, later starts & finish times sucks but he agrees to them. If it sucks that much why not re- negotiate a better deal or you could just surrender to all their demands, very weak

[Woody Guthrie]

If it sucks that much why not re- negotiate a better deal

Because he doesn't believe that a better deal is achievable.
What makes you think it is?
I'm genuinely curious.