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CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
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redrebecca
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CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
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The CWU leadership argues that if we had continued to strike Royal Mail would have gone bankrupt. The Tories would have taken it over, handed the parcel operation to the company’s international holding company IDS (until last year Royal Mail Group) and slashed the USO, losing tens of thousands of jobs.
But does the Sunak government, with crises piling up and an election next year that it looks to lose, really want to take on such a toxic issue? It would mean rewarding the already unpopular Royal Mail bosses who took £600 million out of the company last year then tanked Royal Mail, by allowing them to keep a parcel company built with the profits of privatisation. All in full view of the public, 70% of whom think the company should be renationalised. This dispute has completely discredited privatisation, and the Tories would have very limited room to manoeuvre If the union were to strike and build a real solidarity campaign demanding renationalisation.
So this is a risk of course, and no one should take it lightly. But it is far from an automatic outcome if the union fights for renationalisation. The bigger risk is that we give in to Royal Mail blackmail now, and they pull the same trick in 2025. If it worked the first time, they will try it again.
WHAT’S PLAN B
Ward claims that the no voters don’t have a ‘plan b’ other than to go back to negotiations and demand Royal Mail let us have our old terms and conditions back. That’s not true of most. Ward himself was forced to admit in the Glasgow reps meeting that if there was a no vote, they would have to try to renegotiate or strike, though he warned the threat of administration would still be used against us.
But Ward, Furey and the PEC are themselves guilty of peddling illusions about our bright future under the new agreement. Ward claims in the Q&A that ‘this agreement can get us an opportunity to expand role of postal workers which Royal Mail is now properly signed up to’. Workers should put no hopes in this. Royal Mail has been ‘signed up’ to finding new areas of work and growing the USO in the 2014, 2018, and 2020 agreements. They aren’t interested, they want a parcel company, and the truth is there are limits to how much work can sustain falling letters.
There is only one way to save the USO, that is to fully integrate it into the parcel delivery network in a way that creates attractive, doable jobs. Only a strong union willing to take the militant action required, including facing down threats of bankruptcy and the Tories, can guarantee that. The Ward leadership is clearly not capable of that. In fact he has now publicly said in several meetings that the USO will have to be cut to five days soon, to “save” it, a bankrupt argument.
GROUNDHOG DAY 2025
This deal is a golden ticket for bosses. It ends the dispute. It slashes terms and conditions. It creates a two tier workforce. It hasn’t stopped their shop floor offensive for a minute. Board members smiled and shook hands with CWU leaders, signed joint statements and the agreement, then turned round and told shopfloor managers to continue imposing cuts and victimising members throughout the entire 3 month period from agreement to ballot. Ward admits this ‘won’t change overnight’ as ‘out of control managers’ keep at it.
But the big, strategic gain for Royal Mail is the single large parcel delivery network, structurally separable from the USO operation, which the union will now help them build.
That means in 2025 the bosses will be in a much stronger position than now. Letters will have continued to decline, weakening the USO, and they will have a freshly minted parcel network. What if they dust off the 2022 playbook, hive off the new parcel network and hand it to the international holding company IDS? They could then threaten the bankruptcy of the USO operation if we don’t deliver up more cuts to jobs, pay, and T&Cs.
This deal means surrendering to blackmail, being willing to trade terms and conditions for weak assurances, and a weaker union. That puts us in a bad position to fight them off when they come back for more.
ACCEPTING PRIVATISATION
Even before 2025, we could see Royal Mail try hardball executive action again – they have a history of ripping up agreements after getting what they want or if savings aren’t enough – in 2017, 2019, 2022, and they have the measure of the Ward leadership, it’s no danger to them.
If the CWU did try to strike in 2025 we would face steep headwinds after this deal. Workers would point to the current dispute and ask if a strike would work this time, especially those new workers already on worse pay and T&Cs. If we accept the company’s blackmail in 2023, what will have changed if they try it again in 2025?
The turn to parcels will mean a more and more direct competition with the gig economy conditions of the parcel sector, and a race to the bottom. The CWU officials have no answer to that, they have not lifted a finger to organise the delivery sector, instead they are looking to expand away from Royal Mail into warehouses and tech workers, with whispers about a merger with the RMT rail union. Mergers are the bureaucrat’s response to falling membership, the product of their own failed strategy, in order to maintain their positions, perks and privileges. Dave Ward says we need to ensure ‘Royal Mail is successful’, that is as a private company owned by millionaires. But that means we will have to keep feeding them our jobs and terms and conditions, for Royal Mail to turn into profits. The alternative to this deal, and the future concessions and give backs it points to, is striking to defend our terms and conditions and fighting for the CWU’s policy of renationalisation.
The CWU leadership argues that if we had continued to strike Royal Mail would have gone bankrupt. The Tories would have taken it over, handed the parcel operation to the company’s international holding company IDS (until last year Royal Mail Group) and slashed the USO, losing tens of thousands of jobs.
But does the Sunak government, with crises piling up and an election next year that it looks to lose, really want to take on such a toxic issue? It would mean rewarding the already unpopular Royal Mail bosses who took £600 million out of the company last year then tanked Royal Mail, by allowing them to keep a parcel company built with the profits of privatisation. All in full view of the public, 70% of whom think the company should be renationalised. This dispute has completely discredited privatisation, and the Tories would have very limited room to manoeuvre If the union were to strike and build a real solidarity campaign demanding renationalisation.
So this is a risk of course, and no one should take it lightly. But it is far from an automatic outcome if the union fights for renationalisation. The bigger risk is that we give in to Royal Mail blackmail now, and they pull the same trick in 2025. If it worked the first time, they will try it again.
WHAT’S PLAN B
Ward claims that the no voters don’t have a ‘plan b’ other than to go back to negotiations and demand Royal Mail let us have our old terms and conditions back. That’s not true of most. Ward himself was forced to admit in the Glasgow reps meeting that if there was a no vote, they would have to try to renegotiate or strike, though he warned the threat of administration would still be used against us.
But Ward, Furey and the PEC are themselves guilty of peddling illusions about our bright future under the new agreement. Ward claims in the Q&A that ‘this agreement can get us an opportunity to expand role of postal workers which Royal Mail is now properly signed up to’. Workers should put no hopes in this. Royal Mail has been ‘signed up’ to finding new areas of work and growing the USO in the 2014, 2018, and 2020 agreements. They aren’t interested, they want a parcel company, and the truth is there are limits to how much work can sustain falling letters.
There is only one way to save the USO, that is to fully integrate it into the parcel delivery network in a way that creates attractive, doable jobs. Only a strong union willing to take the militant action required, including facing down threats of bankruptcy and the Tories, can guarantee that. The Ward leadership is clearly not capable of that. In fact he has now publicly said in several meetings that the USO will have to be cut to five days soon, to “save” it, a bankrupt argument.
GROUNDHOG DAY 2025
This deal is a golden ticket for bosses. It ends the dispute. It slashes terms and conditions. It creates a two tier workforce. It hasn’t stopped their shop floor offensive for a minute. Board members smiled and shook hands with CWU leaders, signed joint statements and the agreement, then turned round and told shopfloor managers to continue imposing cuts and victimising members throughout the entire 3 month period from agreement to ballot. Ward admits this ‘won’t change overnight’ as ‘out of control managers’ keep at it.
But the big, strategic gain for Royal Mail is the single large parcel delivery network, structurally separable from the USO operation, which the union will now help them build.
That means in 2025 the bosses will be in a much stronger position than now. Letters will have continued to decline, weakening the USO, and they will have a freshly minted parcel network. What if they dust off the 2022 playbook, hive off the new parcel network and hand it to the international holding company IDS? They could then threaten the bankruptcy of the USO operation if we don’t deliver up more cuts to jobs, pay, and T&Cs.
This deal means surrendering to blackmail, being willing to trade terms and conditions for weak assurances, and a weaker union. That puts us in a bad position to fight them off when they come back for more.
ACCEPTING PRIVATISATION
Even before 2025, we could see Royal Mail try hardball executive action again – they have a history of ripping up agreements after getting what they want or if savings aren’t enough – in 2017, 2019, 2022, and they have the measure of the Ward leadership, it’s no danger to them.
If the CWU did try to strike in 2025 we would face steep headwinds after this deal. Workers would point to the current dispute and ask if a strike would work this time, especially those new workers already on worse pay and T&Cs. If we accept the company’s blackmail in 2023, what will have changed if they try it again in 2025?
The turn to parcels will mean a more and more direct competition with the gig economy conditions of the parcel sector, and a race to the bottom. The CWU officials have no answer to that, they have not lifted a finger to organise the delivery sector, instead they are looking to expand away from Royal Mail into warehouses and tech workers, with whispers about a merger with the RMT rail union. Mergers are the bureaucrat’s response to falling membership, the product of their own failed strategy, in order to maintain their positions, perks and privileges. Dave Ward says we need to ensure ‘Royal Mail is successful’, that is as a private company owned by millionaires. But that means we will have to keep feeding them our jobs and terms and conditions, for Royal Mail to turn into profits. The alternative to this deal, and the future concessions and give backs it points to, is striking to defend our terms and conditions and fighting for the CWU’s policy of renationalisation.
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datasaint
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Re: CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
Dave Ward on the picket lines back in Dec 2022 was doing news interviews saying we won't accept RM's plans for a race to the bottom, and creating a gig economy.
All the fighting talk here .. https://youtu.be/SvQFg5rwYSA
Then he comes up with deal for no payrise for 2022 beyond the imposed 2%, a deal which creates a two-tier workforce, erodes the T&C's, and pretty much capitulates to RM's demands.
All the fighting talk here .. https://youtu.be/SvQFg5rwYSA
Then he comes up with deal for no payrise for 2022 beyond the imposed 2%, a deal which creates a two-tier workforce, erodes the T&C's, and pretty much capitulates to RM's demands.
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timbo1234
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Re: CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
Anybody who thinks more industrial action will have any effect on RM or the government is in my opinion deluded. Support for strike action ( if the ballot turnout is high enough) will be not be high which will allow RM to introduce all changes, divide the workforce and keep a reduced service going. Add to that the use of casuals, the suspension by the government of the USO and you have the ingredients for RM to push through even more changes and destroy the influence of the CWU .
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simon goodman
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Re: CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
Written by a CWU Rep??? They need to put their name to it. All I see is The League of the Fifth Nation getting involved with our dispute, trying to stoke division. Every member has an opportunity to cast their vote; that is the CWU way of doing things…
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Postie93
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Re: CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
If you asked members of CWU what they thought of Ward and Furey...the word salad would consist of BACKSTABBERS, TREACHEROUS, SELLOUTS, LIARS, CAPITULATION, SURRENDER, EMBARRASSMENT....They're just some of the printable descriptions??.
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sindba
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Re: CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
"Workers Power" can eff off and take their Communist revolution with them.
Posties don't want idiots like this using our problems to push their wierdo agenda thank you very much.
Posties don't want idiots like this using our problems to push their wierdo agenda thank you very much.
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hans solo
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Re: CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
Speak for yourself
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dazzler123
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Re: CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
First paragraph states Tories would slash the USO if they had to take it over. Theyve already refused that twice
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
There's a section called WHAT’S PLAN B that completely avoids the question of what plan b is...
Only dead fish follow the current
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sindba
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Re: CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
I think their Plan B is violent ovethrow of democracy, and the forced confiscation of private property, posessions and money.Woody Guthrie wrote: ↑29 Jun 2023, 16:48There's a section called WHAT’S PLAN B that completely avoids the question of what plan b is...
They're a lovely bunch. Clearly got the best interests of working people at heart.
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Woody Guthrie
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Re: CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
They are probably the least likely people to lead a violent overthrow of anything.
Most of them are still living off their rather disappointed parents.
Most of them are still living off their rather disappointed parents.
Only dead fish follow the current
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teesdale
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Re: CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
Its an extension of the end. RM management culture has always worked against the company, its just that now the decline they are pushing for has been accelarated. The manager is everything because they will soon all be casuals has been going on for 20 years. Never got that far has it, thanks to the CWU. Kicking the can farther down the road seems to be working. Manager supervises worker by close supervision is counter productive and aids the can being kicked. How many mail centre leases have a break clause in 2027.
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blacov
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Re: CWU ballot: Security and stability or a race to the bottom?
I think this is very visible that the job many of us used to know no longer exist. Royal Mail will continue pursuing their plan to compete in the parcel delivery sector and will do next to nothing to maintain the uso. It has been proven they don't care about toothless ofcom and potential fines. No amount of striking and fighting can stop job degeneration. Cwu surely is not up to the task. What they have managed to achieve is just a delayed execution but it also buys us time. Time to grab whatever they are throwing at us and run.
If you work in deliveries this job is becoming particularly bad. Amount of stress this job is already putting on the body is not worth money it pays. Especially now with added work and larger walks as well as slashed overtime opportunities.
This is one hundred percent race to the bottom and we will see huge shift it staff rotation and little quality we have left will nose dive too. Royal Mail is playing a risky game too in my opinion, they believe they can still have proud dedicated workers willing to go extra mile for far less money in todays market. They are in for a massive shock. We are going to end up as another yodel and with irregular letter deliveries. Permanently understaffed with new people coming and going every month.
Time to grab whatever lump sum they are offering and leave this sinking ship. Prove me wrong.
If you work in deliveries this job is becoming particularly bad. Amount of stress this job is already putting on the body is not worth money it pays. Especially now with added work and larger walks as well as slashed overtime opportunities.
This is one hundred percent race to the bottom and we will see huge shift it staff rotation and little quality we have left will nose dive too. Royal Mail is playing a risky game too in my opinion, they believe they can still have proud dedicated workers willing to go extra mile for far less money in todays market. They are in for a massive shock. We are going to end up as another yodel and with irregular letter deliveries. Permanently understaffed with new people coming and going every month.
Time to grab whatever lump sum they are offering and leave this sinking ship. Prove me wrong.