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Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

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1560loopsayear
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by 1560loopsayear »

Can't think of anything worse than working both Saturday and Sunday. If it became mandatory for all then.... :wave
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by neviboss »

T48s are been delivered on a Sunday from July!
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by portadown »

Posties Monday to Friday and then employ people that it suits for the weekends
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by NPC00030300 »

Don’t know about Sundays I only come here for the Ann Summers adverts .
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by ted_e_bear »

neviboss wrote:
26 Jun 2023, 21:48
T48s are been delivered on a Sunday from July!
Ah that might confirm the earlier comment that there's going to be loads more from July
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by emu72 »

claystones wrote:
26 Jun 2023, 14:25
Because sadly the cwu and royal mail are in bed together i hope its a no vote
Theyve been in bed together for a long time.every time we’ve ever had a deal that the cwu have said to us to accept it,its always been a stitch up where they give us a basic pay rise but a load of conditions with it.theyve never been decent deals.
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by Jen1 »

Don’t know if this is any help it seems to just refer to betting shops but I’m sure the subject could be explored further

Sunday working
Having to work on a Sunday depends on whether it’s mentioned in either the person’s:

employment contract
written statement of terms and conditions
A worker cannot be made to work on Sundays unless they agreed it with their employer and put it in writing (for example, changed the contract).

Employers only have to pay staff more for working on Sundays if it has been agreed as part of the contract.

Sunday working in shops and betting shops
Staff do not have to work on Sundays if they’re:

shop workers who started with their employer on or before 26 August 1994 (in Northern Ireland, this is on or before 4 December 1997)
betting shop workers who started with their employer on or before 2 January 1995 (in Northern Ireland, this is on or before 26 February 2004)
All staff should be told about these Sunday working rights when they first start work.
Opting out of Sunday working
All shop and betting shop workers can opt out of Sunday working unless Sunday is the only day they have been employed to work on. They can opt out of Sunday working at any time, even if they agreed to it in their contract.

Shop and betting shop workers must:

give their employer 3 months’ notice that they want to opt out
continue to work on Sundays during the 3 month notice period if their employer wants them to
An employer who needs staff to work on Sundays must tell them in writing that they can opt out. They must do this within 2 months of the person starting work - if they do not, only 1 month’s notice is needed to opt out.

An employee cannot be dismissed or treated unfairly for choosing not to work on Sundays
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by Jen1 »

Also found this and found somewhere else that if you’ve been working set hours over an extended period then to make a change to that you and your employer must agree to the changes being implemented (but I can’t for the life of me find where I read it)

Check if your contract has a variation clause

If there's a variation clause in your employment contract, your employer might be able to make some changes to your contract. For example, a variation clause might say your usual place of work can be changed under certain conditions.

Check your contract to see if it has a variation clause.

Your employer should tell you in advance if they want to use a variation clause to make a change to your contract.

They won’t be able to rely on a variation clause if the change is unreasonable, or being introduced without notice.

For example, it might be unreasonable if you have children and your caring responsibilities would become difficult if your contract changed.
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by norris9 »

If they ruin our jobs too much then they will lose staff and will struggle to keep staff. Maybe that's what they want, but it's stupidity to me.

Imagine...

- Working some Sundays.
- As well as working some Saturdays.
- As well as working until 5pm = working in the worst heat of the day and working in the dark in winter = more injuries.
- As well as working longer in winter.
- As well as being harassed to rush round your duty.
- As well as having to wipe old ladies bums to expand our roles.


They should give us something back for having to work later, they should allow posties to work Mon-Fri if they prefer to do so and get a separate weekend workforce.
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by Cedar_Room »

norris9 wrote:
27 Jun 2023, 13:39



They should give us something back for having to work later, they should allow posties to work Mon-Fri if they prefer to do so and get a separate weekend workforce.
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by funkflex55 »

norris9 wrote:
27 Jun 2023, 13:39
If they ruin our jobs too much then they will lose staff and will struggle to keep staff. Maybe that's what they want, but it's stupidity to me.

Imagine...

- Working some Sundays.
- As well as working some Saturdays.
- As well as working until 5pm = working in the worst heat of the day and working in the dark in winter = more injuries.
- As well as working longer in winter.
- As well as being harassed to rush round your duty.
- As well as having to wipe old ladies bums to expand our roles.


They should give us something back for having to work later, they should allow posties to work Mon-Fri if they prefer to do so and get a separate weekend workforce.
Not all your listed negatives will be negatives to everybody. Some people like old ladies bums :funneh
bowie
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by bowie »

Weak people change is always there at the end of the day we have a deal,there is always change go with it or leave
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by jahbalon »

funkflex55 wrote:
27 Jun 2023, 16:00
norris9 wrote:
27 Jun 2023, 13:39
If they ruin our jobs too much then they will lose staff and will struggle to keep staff. Maybe that's what they want, but it's stupidity to me.

Imagine...

- Working some Sundays.
- As well as working some Saturdays.
- As well as working until 5pm = working in the worst heat of the day and working in the dark in winter = more injuries.
- As well as working longer in winter.
- As well as being harassed to rush round your duty.
- As well as having to wipe old ladies bums to expand our roles.


They should give us something back for having to work later, they should allow posties to work Mon-Fri if they prefer to do so and get a separate weekend workforce.
Not all your listed negatives will be negatives to everybody. Some people like old ladies bums :funneh
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by CRIBMAD »

Correction - there is more life in a Funeral Morgue !
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Re: Sundays: why isn't this being mentioned?

Post by kazardaimenu »

neviboss wrote:
26 Jun 2023, 21:48
T48s are been delivered on a Sunday from July!
Haha why?! No one will be expecting these. Managers will be going spare.