Have to vote No

[LouBarlow]

If it’s a no vote we put up a stronger fight and use our strike mandate like the CWU was up for prior to them going into self preservation mode,remember the best and final offer was improved on,they’re was no more money in the pot but then the £900 carrot was dangled,Dave Ward and his team talked a good battle but when it came to the crunch they weren’t up for the fight and lay down and got their belly tickled by RM

How much stronger a fight do we have to put up, than striking at Christmas? How much support do you think you would have for an all out indefinite strike, and what do you think that would achieve, considering we are working for a company that is bleeding money? I’m honestly interested in how you would proceed at this point.

97 % voted to carry on the strike how much more support do you think is needed.

And why do you think no strike action was called?

[The Postman]

If it’s a no vote we put up a stronger fight and use our strike mandate like the CWU was up for prior to them going into self preservation mode,remember the best and final offer was improved on,they’re was no more money in the pot but then the £900 carrot was dangled,Dave Ward and his team talked a good battle but when it came to the crunch they weren’t up for the fight and lay down and got their belly tickled by RM

How much stronger a fight do we have to put up, than striking at Christmas? How much support do you think you would have for an all out indefinite strike, and what do you think that would achieve, considering we are working for a company that is bleeding money? I’m honestly interested in how you would proceed at this point.

97 % voted to carry on the strike how much more support do you think is needed.

And why do you think no strike action was called?

Because Dave Ward & chums want to keep their big wage. Same reason the time has been run down on the mandate by delaying the ballot.

[clashcityrocker]

Because Dave Ward & chums want to keep their big wage.

But if everyone who is threatening to leave the union carries through with that threat, who is going to pay Dave's big wage?
Your argument doesn't make sense.

[aiden01]

If it’s a no vote we put up a stronger fight and use our strike mandate like the CWU was up for prior to them going into self preservation mode,remember the best and final offer was improved on,they’re was no more money in the pot but then the £900 carrot was dangled,Dave Ward and his team talked a good battle but when it came to the crunch they weren’t up for the fight and lay down and got their belly tickled by RM

How much stronger a fight do we have to put up, than striking at Christmas? How much support do you think you would have for an all out indefinite strike, and what do you think that would achieve, considering we are working for a company that is bleeding money? I’m honestly interested in how you would proceed at this point.

97 % voted to carry on the strike how much more support do you think is needed.

And why do you think no strike action was called?

Because Dave Ward & chums want to keep their big wage. Same reason the time has been run down on the mandate by delaying the ballot.

Think ballot is live until 17th of august so not really a big delay when result is due 11th july.

[Broxi51]

When it is a YES vote then the attack on our sick pay terms and conditions will get worse until we get NO sick pay for the first 3 days like other companies. This should NOT be a race to the bottom, we should be protecting these rights for our future colleagues. Every company seems to be trying to get rid of as much staff as possible and keep the rest on poorer conditions. What will a NO vote mean? I have no idea but I do know that a YES vote will be jus t the first step in more of our conditions being ripped away from us.

[aiden01]

When it is a YES vote then the attack on our sick pay terms and conditions will get worse until we get NO sick pay for the first 3 days like other companies. This should NOT be a race to the bottom, we should be protecting these rights for our future colleagues. Every company seems to be trying to get rid of as much staff as possible and keep the rest on poorer conditions. What will a NO vote mean? I have no idea but I do know that a YES vote will be jus t the first step in more of our conditions being ripped away from us.

Surely then a no vote will mean they are ripped away from us a hell of a lot quicker.

[LouBarlow]

When it is a YES vote then the attack on our sick pay terms and conditions will get worse until we get NO sick pay for the first 3 days like other companies. This should NOT be a race to the bottom, we should be protecting these rights for our future colleagues. Every company seems to be trying to get rid of as much staff as possible and keep the rest on poorer conditions. What will a NO vote mean? I have no idea but I do know that a YES vote will be jus t the first step in more of our conditions being ripped away from us.

You do have an idea what happens if a no vote result happens. The CWU, RM and the PEC are all telling you it would be disastrous.

[Broxi51]

When it is a YES vote then the attack on our sick pay terms and conditions will get worse until we get NO sick pay for the first 3 days like other companies. This should NOT be a race to the bottom, we should be protecting these rights for our future colleagues. Every company seems to be trying to get rid of as much staff as possible and keep the rest on poorer conditions. What will a NO vote mean? I have no idea but I do know that a YES vote will be jus t the first step in more of our conditions being ripped away from us.

Surely then a no vote will mean they are ripped away from us a hell of a lot quicker.

I have no idea mate but If we vote YES then we are saying that it is OK for future colleagues to be shafted big time in order for the rich to get richer

[Broxi51]

When it is a YES vote then the attack on our sick pay terms and conditions will get worse until we get NO sick pay for the first 3 days like other companies. This should NOT be a race to the bottom, we should be protecting these rights for our future colleagues. Every company seems to be trying to get rid of as much staff as possible and keep the rest on poorer conditions. What will a NO vote mean? I have no idea but I do know that a YES vote will be jus t the first step in more of our conditions being ripped away from us.

You do have an idea what happens if a no vote result happens. The CWU, RM and the PEC are all telling you it would be disastrous.

Then Vote YES. I am not here to tell you how to vote but trying to predict what a YES vote will mean for T&C's

[LouBarlow]

When it is a YES vote then the attack on our sick pay terms and conditions will get worse until we get NO sick pay for the first 3 days like other companies. This should NOT be a race to the bottom, we should be protecting these rights for our future colleagues. Every company seems to be trying to get rid of as much staff as possible and keep the rest on poorer conditions. What will a NO vote mean? I have no idea but I do know that a YES vote will be jus t the first step in more of our conditions being ripped away from us.

You do have an idea what happens if a no vote result happens. The CWU, RM and the PEC are all telling you it would be disastrous.

Then Vote YES. I am not here to tell you how to vote but trying to predict what a YES vote will mean for T&C's

A yes vote is easier to predict considering it is a ratified agreement.

[aiden01]

When it is a YES vote then the attack on our sick pay terms and conditions will get worse until we get NO sick pay for the first 3 days like other companies. This should NOT be a race to the bottom, we should be protecting these rights for our future colleagues. Every company seems to be trying to get rid of as much staff as possible and keep the rest on poorer conditions. What will a NO vote mean? I have no idea but I do know that a YES vote will be jus t the first step in more of our conditions being ripped away from us.

Surely then a no vote will mean they are ripped away from us a hell of a lot quicker.

I have no idea mate but If we vote YES then we are saying that it is OK for future colleagues to be shafted ebig time in order for the rich to get richer

Been in the job too long mate to worry about future colleagues let me assure you nobody cares an never did.

[Broxi51]

When it is a YES vote then the attack on our sick pay terms and conditions will get worse until we get NO sick pay for the first 3 days like other companies. This should NOT be a race to the bottom, we should be protecting these rights for our future colleagues. Every company seems to be trying to get rid of as much staff as possible and keep the rest on poorer conditions. What will a NO vote mean? I have no idea but I do know that a YES vote will be jus t the first step in more of our conditions being ripped away from us.

Surely then a no vote will mean they are ripped away from us a hell of a lot quicker.

I have no idea mate but If we vote YES then we are saying that it is OK for future colleagues to be shafted ebig time in order for the rich to get richer

Been in the job too long mate to worry about future colleagues let me assure you nobody cares an never did.

Then do what you have to do, simple.

[aiden01]

When it is a YES vote then the attack on our sick pay terms and conditions will get worse until we get NO sick pay for the first 3 days like other companies. This should NOT be a race to the bottom, we should be protecting these rights for our future colleagues. Every company seems to be trying to get rid of as much staff as possible and keep the rest on poorer conditions. What will a NO vote mean? I have no idea but I do know that a YES vote will be jus t the first step in more of our conditions being ripped away from us.

Surely then a no vote will mean they are ripped away from us a hell of a lot quicker.

I have no idea mate but If we vote YES then we are saying that it is OK for future colleagues to be shafted ebig time in order for the rich to get richer

Been in the job too long mate to worry about future colleagues let me assure you nobody cares an never did.

Then do what you have to do, simple.

Already have

[Broxi51]

When it is a YES vote then the attack on our sick pay terms and conditions will get worse until we get NO sick pay for the first 3 days like other companies. This should NOT be a race to the bottom, we should be protecting these rights for our future colleagues. Every company seems to be trying to get rid of as much staff as possible and keep the rest on poorer conditions. What will a NO vote mean? I have no idea but I do know that a YES vote will be jus t the first step in more of our conditions being ripped away from us.

Surely then a no vote will mean they are ripped away from us a hell of a lot quicker.

I have no idea mate but If we vote YES then we are saying that it is OK for future colleagues to be shafted ebig time in order for the rich to get richer

Been in the job too long mate to worry about future colleagues let me assure you nobody cares an never did.

Then do what you have to do, simple.

Already have

Well done. Not here to tell you how to vote, totally up to yourself. Hoping that colleagues will vote, that is all.

[steve2zaf]

When it is a YES vote then the attack on our sick pay terms and conditions will get worse until we get NO sick pay for the first 3 days like other companies. This should NOT be a race to the bottom, we should be protecting these rights for our future colleagues. Every company seems to be trying to get rid of as much staff as possible and keep the rest on poorer conditions. What will a NO vote mean? I have no idea but I do know that a YES vote will be jus t the first step in more of our conditions being ripped away from us.

You do have an idea what happens if a no vote result happens. The CWU, RM and the PEC are all telling you it would be disastrous.

Why do you keep asking the same question LOU. Nobody knows what a NO vote would bring . We don't have crystal balls . What we know is what a yes vote brings . We are trying to better the agreement somehow . Even if its just a little sweetener , but something. Your mentality cannot obviously comprehend opposite views to your own. What if ... ? Why would you ... ? If you vote no blah blah blah. " NO " voters are prepared to gamble for better , not accept vastly inferior terms & conditions . We all know change has and will continue to happen - we are not as stupid as you may like to believe. Some of us would rather try to write some of our future , than have it written for us. Now please stop asking the same old , same old , same old questions . It's so tiresome.