no cutting off on saturdays

tarboy · Post by **tarboy** » 10 Mar 2008, 19:57

I was told last saturday that we can not cut off saturdays and it as been agreed by the cwu. CAN THIS BE RIGHT?

johnnyp · Post by **johnnyp** » 10 Mar 2008, 20:06

tarboy wrote:I was told last saturday that we can not cut off saturdays and it as been agreed by the cwu. CAN THIS BE RIGHT?

Who told you this?Have they got a copy of the signed agreement to show you?This may happen under phase 3 of the agreement but as far as i know no one is at that stage yet.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 10 Mar 2008, 20:09

You don't cut off any day.

What you do is tell them that you have something to do (doesn't matter what I like washing my hare) and you will be unable to complete within the time allowed but they may try to use the 30mins but I can't see how that works on a Saturday because you can't get it back (if one of the union yes men knows maybe they can tell us)

tarboy · Post by **tarboy** » 10 Mar 2008, 20:15

My Dom told me 1st and my rep said it was true. Leaves us open to royal mail putting more S--T on us saturday.

mailman71 · Post by **mailman71** » 10 Mar 2008, 20:18

they cant make you work past your time.

DirtyHarry · Post by **DirtyHarry** » 10 Mar 2008, 20:32

tarboy wrote:I was told last saturday that we can not cut off saturdays and it as been agreed by the cwu. CAN THIS BE RIGHT?

No, and it can never be right. Nobody can be made to do overtime. I doubt very much, that even with the idiots we have at the top, the CWU will
agree to enforced overtime. Tell your DOM he's talking bollox.

guvenor · Post by **guvenor** » 10 Mar 2008, 20:43

we have been told flexability does not apply to sat attendances
long/shorts extra 30 mins all other aspects of flexi mon-fri
we have 7hr 30 min day sat and 5.30 start time which was all agreed
to enable shorter sat. dont get misled though sat still our busiest day and
mail has been left on sat. constant bickering with line coffee drinking managers
but if your going over your time 1. book otime 2. cut off
cant force otime

L Tommo · Post by **L Tommo** » 10 Mar 2008, 21:37

DONT GET SUCKED IN TO THERE SHITE... Just as a sniff of STRIKE comes about... Guess wot happends,.,,

BIG STICK.... ignore it and larf at the fools....

DONT STAND FOR ANY OF THERE BULLSHITE...

NEVER LET THE BASTARDS GRIND US DOWN!!! :lfo :cfo

bandit650 · Post by **bandit650** » 11 Mar 2008, 15:02

I really would like to see them enforce that in our office,no manager can force you to work past your hours and if they tried then i feel they could come up against more problems.You only have to tell the manager that you will not be able to compleat your delivery and that you will endevour to do your best,you agree with the manager what you can take and leave what you cant behind with the manager for them to deal with,never allow the manager to make it your problem put the ball firmly back in the managers court that is what they are payed for,if all else fails then bring the mail back and hand it to them with i told you so!

dididw · Post by **dididw** » 11 Mar 2008, 15:26

Overtime is voluntary and not compulsory !!!!

your union rep + manager should be shot for giving you the wrong information.

Post by **rhino49** » 11 Mar 2008, 15:34

I agree that Saturdays are a lot busier than they used to be, mainly through bad streaming rather than an increase in mail but watch out for this one - our managers showed us figures proving it was the busiest day bar one but didn't notice that they always add the dtd volume for the week on a Saturday.

Make sure any figures you are shown do not include the dtd's and ask how they are factored into the figures each week.- They may not call them traffic - but we carry and deliver them !!!

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 11 Mar 2008, 15:40

tarboy wrote:I was told last saturday that we can not cut off saturdays and it as been agreed by the cwu. CAN THIS BE RIGHT?

It may be a local agreement and therefore you will need to check with the Rep.

However, there is no National Agreement on "Not being able to cut off on Saturdays". I have done a search on the CWU Website for "Saturdays" and nothing - expect the agreement to revert back to earlier starts (and we all know how well RM have handled that)- is found - nothing at all.

mike b · Post by **mike b** » 11 Mar 2008, 15:49

we were told by are Dom today that we will be going back to later start & fin i.e 6.00 til 2.00 on saturdays as we had 20 plus break offs last sat trying to bring it in next few weeks can they do this??????

barrychuckle · Post by **barrychuckle** » 11 Mar 2008, 15:59

mike b wrote:we were told by are Dom today that we will be going back to later start & fin i.e 6.00 til 2.00 on saturdays as we had 20 plus break offs last sat trying to bring it in next few weeks can they do this??????

If you had an agreement for earlier finishes on a Saturday RM will have to get another agreement for a later finish. How can you agree to a 2.00 finish on a Saturday. Have you no families, do you not go to sports matches etc. are you not bothered about quality time at the weekend. WORK TO LIVE NOT LIVE TO WORK.

dididw · Post by **dididw** » 11 Mar 2008, 16:05

Stop being wimps.....they cannot force you to work overtime !!!!

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