CWU Podcast : Later starts - why? Could we have stopped it? Have we done enough to mitigate the impact Would a no vote change this?

[nuisance]

Green agenda? Another BS legitimate excuse for doing something to make things cheaper and shitter for the staff and paying customers whilst lining their pockets a bit more. RM sure know how to use any crisis to serve their own agenda.

Covid made them a ton of profit whilst giving them the perfect excuse for cutting standards.
The cost of living crisis is giving them the perfect opportunity for them to pressure us into giving up our t & cs.
Now the noblest way to save the planet is to force us all into moving our working hours later...

Please, nobody swallow the BS, and I'm disgusted with the union who are now spouting it for RM.

[enskied]

There is nothing "Green" about Royal Mail. It's not Green to build new SuperHubs, it's not Green to drive old clapped out vans, it's not Green to produce and deliver menu's and flyers, that incidentally take priority over mail. It's not Green to leave two p739.

Bicycle's were Green.

[kazardaimenu]

If they wanted green then LATs and Sunday deliveries would go out the next day in the main delivery. No need for late starts if stuff can wait a day.

[k979aaa]

Another BS legitimate excuse for doing something to make things cheaper and shitter for the staff and paying customers whilst lining their pockets a bit more. RM sure know how to use any crisis to serve their own agenda.

Covid made them a ton of profit whilst giving them the perfect excuse for cutting standards.
The cost of living crisis is giving them the perfect opportunity for them to pressure us into giving up our t & cs.
Now the noblest way to save the planet is to force us all into moving our working hours later...

Please, nobody swallow the BS, and I'm disgusted with the union who are now spouting it for RM.

This in no way save the planet but it will save the bonuses of RM and shaft us all over at our expense as to the union using the green argument which only the middle class can afford shame on you all. I will not tell you how to vote use your own minds they have hung themselves out to dry of which holding my scorn for them helped the truth come out in the end!

[77SAMPOST77]

The CWU Propaganda machine is now in full swing ,

They define a victory by saying we stopped it being much worse ,

When my football team lose 2-0 I will regard that as a little win because we could have lost 4-0 .

[steve2zaf]

The only thing green is the clueless CWU. They are so blind , a white stick and dog couldn't help them.

[LouBarlow]

Wouldn’t bringing back bicycles be the ultimate green policy? Have the oversized parcels being delivered by dedicated electric vehicles, and the smaller parcels and mail the old way. We still have the parcel drops around here, so it wouldn’t take a lot to bring it back. Less walking too obviously.

[scotchy1962]

Wouldn’t bringing back bicycles be the ultimate green policy? Have the oversized parcels being delivered by dedicated electric vehicles, and the smaller parcels and mail the old way. We still have the parcel drops around here, so it wouldn’t take a lot to bring it back. Less walking too obviously.

Well what do you know Lou, something we can agree on and a very good forward thinking idea.
Lou for CEO!!

[nuisance]

Wouldn’t bringing back bicycles be the ultimate green policy? Have the oversized parcels being delivered by dedicated electric vehicles, and the smaller parcels and mail the old way. We still have the parcel drops around here, so it wouldn’t take a lot to bring it back. Less walking too obviously.

Wow, LB just made a point I'm in total agreement with. If they do take the large parcels off us, put us back on (preferably e-)bikes. Better for the environment, cheaper for RM than vans and lets us work independently at our personal optimal pace again. I think that would be a winning change for everyone, plus there would still be plenty of parcel work for people who prefer working out of a van. No chance of it happening, lol, it makes too much sense.

[TopperGas]

It would be interesting to know the present breakdown or electric vans v clapped out Doblo's & Combo's, if the company was really green surely the first thing to go would surely be the old diesel vans rather than aeroplanes?

What gets me is the general public apparently don't want RM to fly mail but my local regional airport is continually putting on extra flights to destinations all over Europe, so the general public don't seem that worried about commercial flights increasing.

"The Planning Inspectorate decided in February 2022 to allow Bristol Airport to increase its cap on passengers from 10 million passengers each year to 12 million. The Airport's plans include major investment in the terminal building, parking facilities, and public transport links"

That's another 20% increase approved and it's probably already doubled in the last 5 or so year.

[LouBarlow]

Wouldn’t bringing back bicycles be the ultimate green policy? Have the oversized parcels being delivered by dedicated electric vehicles, and the smaller parcels and mail the old way. We still have the parcel drops around here, so it wouldn’t take a lot to bring it back. Less walking too obviously.

Wow, LB just made a point I'm in total agreement with. If they do take the large parcels off us, put us back on (preferably e-)bikes. Better for the environment, cheaper for RM than vans and lets us work independently at our personal optimal pace again. I think that would be a winning change for everyone, plus there would still be plenty of parcel work for people who prefer working out of a van. No chance of it happening, lol, it makes too much sense.

I don’t think it is that far fetched. RM are obsessed with these dedicated parcel deliveries I.e anything above shoebox size being delivered as a dedicated duty. I can only speak for my delivery but I could get each loop in one delivery pouch if I removed all of my oversized parcels.

Of course you have the initial outlay of putting bag drops into place where they don’t exist already, such as new build estates, but not having town rounds needing vans would save a ton on fuel and electricity costs.

I would be surprised if they don’t make a return.

[sixfoottwo]

Wouldn’t bringing back bicycles be the ultimate green policy? Have the oversized parcels being delivered by dedicated electric vehicles, and the smaller parcels and mail the old way. We still have the parcel drops around here, so it wouldn’t take a lot to bring it back. Less walking too obviously.

That is genius! I agree 110%

Lou>Macpherson/Ward.

[guardianangel]

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They have shafted parcelforce as well as deliveries,hopefully they will vote NO with the posties and take the fight back.

[postslippete]

Good point Lou


I never knew why Royal Mail were so keen to offload the bikes. At the time they got rid of the large packet drivers but then bought thousands of combi vans that are obviously using more fuel to transport everything. As for the bag drops we might not need as many if we had e-bikes. It's commonplace now to see deliveroo and just eats dash past making plenty of trips back and forth.

However, by the time Royal Mail realise that this is a good idea, carbon neutral planes will be all the rage.....

[Mr Rush]

As for the bag drops we might not need as many if we had e-bikes.

With just the letters you could probably get away with having no bag drops. Although walks are upwards of twice as long as they were in the late 80s when pouch boxes started being introduced, without the damn packets I could get the entire duty in a LWT these days. Of course, the vans permit endless lapsing opportunities for doing a loop in a different postcode.