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The historic advance in work life balance. (THE 35HR WEEK)

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RHONE
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The historic advance in work life balance. (THE 35HR WEEK)

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https://www.cwu.org/news/royal-mail-his ... e-balance/
Royal Mail ‘historic advance’ in work-life balance
Postal September 28 2018
Around 120,000 Royal Mail workers will benefit from a one-hour reduction or equivalent benefit to their working week from Monday morning.

The reduction, is the first stage of a scheduled flight path from 39-hour to a 35-hour working week and is a key element of the ground-breaking Four Pillars of Security national agreement.

WANK£RS.. IM NEVER VOTING IN FAVOUR FOR ANYTHING FROM THIS LOT ,ITS ALMOST LIKE THE COMPANY DOESN'T LIKE ITS OWN STAFF , 23 YEARS AND NOT 1 GOOD THING FROM THE VOTES ARE WITH US ,JOB & FINISH GONE ,D2D MONEY GONE,2 IN 6 GONE , WALLINGTON WEEK GONE, AND MY FU¢K|N 35HR WEEK ,

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Lol
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The four pillars.

That RM say that never existed.
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21 Jun 2023, 18:32
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I've voted NO for the last 2 agreements, I had a feeling we would end up back at square one (or worse).

I'll be voting NO a third time.
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Why haven't the union come up with innovative shifts,maybe job share,3 on 3 off 30hr weeks 10 hour days delivering mail then your parcels instead of employing agency,4 on 3 off there are so many possibilities but no they go for a Sunday off and only 1 day off in week, and 1in4 days off 10 days apart, no work life balance,the union have truly screwed us over ,finishing Saturday tea time mean not much time off with your family now ,they are an utter disgrace.
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yubin282 wrote:
21 Jun 2023, 18:42
I've voted NO for the last 2 agreements, I had a feeling we would end up back at square one (or worse).

I'll be voting NO a third time.
Same as me i've always thought the union was left wanting and never really delivered for deliveries and i'll be voting NO a third time too,i just hope this time around people actually wake up as to what is going on.
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Is that the Four Pillars Agreement that was legally binding under Moya Greene?

The idea being that we would move to a 35 hour working week as a response to the increase in automation. Royal Mail soon said it was unaffordable. However, it could have been more affordable once they were making these huge profits on the back of the pandemic.

Did the Union leadership miss a trick not putting this agenda forward at the time? Can't remember
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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postslippete wrote:
21 Jun 2023, 18:55
Is that the Four Pillars Agreement that was legally binding under Moya Greene?

The idea being that we would move to a 35 hour working week as a response to the increase in automation. Royal Mail soon said it was unaffordable. However, it could have been more affordable once they were making these huge profits on the back of the pandemic.

Did the Union leadership miss a trick not putting this agenda forward at the time? Can't remember
I might be wrong but the amount of automation they envisaged just didn't happen, surely most of the manual ips mail we get is suitable for machine sorting
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ted_e_bear wrote:
21 Jun 2023, 19:13
postslippete wrote:
21 Jun 2023, 18:55
Is that the Four Pillars Agreement that was legally binding under Moya Greene?

The idea being that we would move to a 35 hour working week as a response to the increase in automation. Royal Mail soon said it was unaffordable. However, it could have been more affordable once they were making these huge profits on the back of the pandemic.

Did the Union leadership miss a trick not putting this agenda forward at the time? Can't remember
I might be wrong but the amount of automation they envisaged just didn't happen, surely most of the manual ips mail we get is suitable for machine sorting
No the work is there just work 41 hours without a break and £11.60 an hour and work Sundays for the same pay but they did get big bonuses and spent it on top stuff!
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postslippete wrote:
21 Jun 2023, 18:55
Is that the Four Pillars Agreement that was legally binding under Moya Greene?

The idea being that we would move to a 35 hour working week as a response to the increase in automation. Royal Mail soon said it was unaffordable. However, it could have been more affordable once they were making these huge profits on the back of the pandemic.

Did the Union leadership miss a trick not putting this agenda forward at the time? Can't remember
However, if you go from P/T to F/T, you only get 35 hours plus 2 hours overtime. So as like everything else when it's suits RM
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guardianangel wrote:
21 Jun 2023, 18:45
yubin282 wrote:
21 Jun 2023, 18:42
I've voted NO for the last 2 agreements, I had a feeling we would end up back at square one (or worse).

I'll be voting NO a third time.
Same as me i've always thought the union was left wanting and never really delivered for deliveries and i'll be voting NO a third time too,i just hope this time around people actually wake up as to what is going on.
I think the £900 "bribe" will see us disappointed.
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yubin282 wrote:
21 Jun 2023, 20:25
guardianangel wrote:
21 Jun 2023, 18:45
yubin282 wrote:
21 Jun 2023, 18:42
I've voted NO for the last 2 agreements, I had a feeling we would end up back at square one (or worse).

I'll be voting NO a third time.
Same as me i've always thought the union was left wanting and never really delivered for deliveries and i'll be voting NO a third time too,i just hope this time around people actually wake up as to what is going on.
I think the £900 "bribe" will see us disappointed.
And the union disappointed when 1000's leave and they lose membership money and the ones leaving the union and staying ,could be armegeddon for the union exactly what royal mail wanted and ward has handed it to them on a plate before he walks off into the sunset with his massive pay off and pension.
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The 35 hr week is dead in the water. It will never happen. I'd like to know if the hourly rate is the same between 35 hour week and 37 hour week employees, or are the 35 hours people on more per hour?