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daveyeff
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Post by daveyeff »

im poised to leave but i am still voting no out of principle. they've let them attack us from all angles, and now this with the escrow pension money, claiming they've ''WON'' us more cos we deserve it. f***ing stinks.
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CRIBMAD wrote:
16 Jun 2023, 19:26
we all knew the cwu were going to come up with a little extra on the lump sum (and it is a little extra £900 total NOT £1400) any news on sick pay , IHR ? vote NO NO NO !
It does say in addition to the 500. Still a no from me either way
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Four pages in to the post and nobody has mentioned the £900 is for ALL staff excluding the board?
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1st post, and a couple more edited and updated.
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Post by gfte »

richj2009 wrote:
16 Jun 2023, 19:09


I don't get the 16.30 last letter if we only srart an hour later??
I think the 16:30 is a national upper limit. Look up a DO at the end of the chain. Thurso for example have a proposed new finish time of 16:29.
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We should be able to have the later starts with no change in finish times due to the massive drop off in volumes they say is happening…
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gfte wrote:
16 Jun 2023, 19:37
richj2009 wrote:
16 Jun 2023, 19:09


I don't get the 16.30 last letter if we only srart an hour later??
I think the 16:30 is a national upper limit. Look up a DO at the end of the chain. Thurso for example have a proposed new finish time of 16:29.
It's dark there at 3 in winter. Fing genius 👏
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Yes that is £900 for all employees! ALSO managers - so the cwu seem to have negotiated £900 for the managers too, who have had a 4 figure bonus last year, a recognition payment in September of a £1000, £500 quid recognition payment this year due to be paid this summer plus the revision bonuses to implement the new revisions!, plus all the shopping vouchers through the shine programme for breaking the strike

And now we have the CWU fighting and negotiating only for them to get the £900 quid as well! Fuming!

WELL DONE CWU :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
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May I ask, why September until the money? If it gets a yes vote....
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As someone who worked lates during covid let me make you aware that working in the dark in winter months is HORRIFIC ! most vans have no interior lights , torch needed (buy your own) and delivering parcels is dangerous in a van . Cannot see ice on the pavements and drives , please vote no to this awful deal FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY !
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Post by sindba »

16.30 finish time sound good. It's about the time a working day should finish.

However, in winter if you add on 30 mins compulsory "flex" and 30 mins "seasonal varation", then your xmas finish time will be 17.30 if you cut off

If you stay out and complete, then you'll be out to 7, 8, even 9pm.
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Post by X_hamster »

So now £1400

But ts and cs still shafted, and much later finishes.

Thanks but, no thanks

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Post by Jpro747 »

Not that bothered about the money, more interested in addressing the workload/culture, and sensible finishing times. Can’t see a future at RM with this agreement, the job is just unsustainable healthwise. Working in 30+ degrees throughout the hottest part of the day or in pitch black on icy roads and pavements, H&S issues?

What RM/CWU don’t realise is that a lot of people are going to vote for the carrot so they can take the dosh then leave, leaving a huge hole in the union then RM can impose whatever they like and be left with people who won’t give them a days work at all.
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Post by gfte »

gfte wrote:
16 Jun 2023, 19:37
richj2009 wrote:
16 Jun 2023, 19:09


I don't get the 16.30 last letter if we only srart an hour later??
I think the 16:30 is a national upper limit. Look up a DO at the end of the chain. Thurso for example have a proposed new finish time of 16:29.
I'm wrong, went looking for the Isles, found Portree first with a new finish time of 16:45.

Unless they maybe have those last 15 mins to get back to the DO and sign out.
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Post by freespeech »

11aaa222 wrote:
16 Jun 2023, 19:44
Yes that is £900 for all employees! ALSO managers - so the cwu seem to have negotiated £900 for the managers too, who have had a 4 figure bonus last year, a recognition payment in September of a £1000, £500 quid recognition payment this year due to be paid this summer plus the revision bonuses to implement the new revisions!, plus all the shopping vouchers through the shine programme for breaking the strike

And now we have the CWU fighting and negotiating only for them to get the £900 quid as well! Fuming!

WELL DONE CWU :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause
To be fair if they are using pension escrow money I suspect they had to give it to everyone or no-one.