What does the future hold for the humble postie.

[scotchy1962]

We Posties in my opinion are a hard working, humble bunch. We are pragmatic and can if left alone find solutions to most problems.
Like everything else in life theres always the odd exception and management to ruin things.
We are really at a crossroads now. I think that over the last few years as RM try to align us into a Amazon/Evri hybrid the workload has become a real issue.
We have changed even if RM and our union dont think we have, they can claim whatever they like in terms of workload, its what we see at our end that counts. And all i see is bigger duties, which cancels out the supposed mail drop, more parcels and more and more little things for us to do with no extra time to do it.
Anyone with any sense can see that while we have mail to deliver the Amazon/Evri hybrid cannot ever work, one pushes against the other slowing everyone down, now maybe there is a solution out there that i dont know about but i doubt it.
Auto redelivery to me just seems like a idea dreamt up while somebody was on a illegal substance, i could be proved wrong and maybe its a great idea, but i doubt it.
Then comes the real bug-bear at the moment, the "best agreement we can get" from the union which in my opinion, and let me stress this is my opinion, is a very poor effort from both sides. If ever there is a time to defend us this was the time! As for the lame excuses for accepting this, Rm going bust, i dont buy it and i for the life of me cant see why we would pay for company financial mismanagement and why the union would expect us to.
So what does the future hold for us?

[milly]

Like it or not the future means Royal Mail will have to align with the Delivery times of other Courers to survive.

[scotchy1962]

Like it or not the future means Royal Mail will have to align with the Delivery times of other Courers to survive.

I am interested to hear exactly why we need to? And other couriers go out in the morning, we are being pushed further back.
Also we deliver mail is that about to change anytime soon?
I hate the modern business model which thinks we have to change just because thats old practice, sometimes if it aint broke dont fix it.

[milly]

Like it or not the future means Royal Mail will have to align with the Delivery times of other Courers to survive.

I am interested to hear exactly why we need to? And other couriers go out in the morning, we are being pushed further back.
Also we deliver mail is that about to change anytime soon?
I hate the modern business model which thinks we have to change just because thats old practice, sometimes if it aint broke dont fix it.

I regularly see Amazon Drivers working until 7pm including a Saturday.
Where I live you often see a convoy of Amazon drivers setting off from their depot at around 10.30am.
As far as I'm aware many highly competitive businesses such as Supermarkets operate similar hours to each other.

[koolishy67]

Like it or not the future means Royal Mail will have to align with the Delivery times of other Courers to survive.

I am interested to hear exactly why we need to? And other couriers go out in the morning, we are being pushed further back.
Also we deliver mail is that about to change anytime soon?
I hate the modern business model which thinks we have to change just because thats old practice, sometimes if it aint broke dont fix it.

Most courier delivery start now around 10 -11 am til 7,pm or late

[Kenfandango]

The "but are rivalz" argument is somewhat weird, as...
Royal mail is a service that delivers to EVERY house
Amazon is a shop that delivers what is bought from it
Evri is a courier that delivers parcels
To expect the 3 to be able to achieve equal success with the same business model is less, "blue sky thinking" more a lack of imagination combined with greed.

"But customers want to order at 11.59pm and get their order the next day"... So why has Amazon prime really limited the amount of next-day products in favour of 48 hour? Maybe that statement was true 3 years ago but money is tighter, people are choosier and less spontaneous

[SpacePhoenix]

For us in MCs, probably a lot of our jobs will be automated out of existence. That will have the knock-on affect in DOs where probably more and more work will be sorted to at least walk level, maybe even loop level, which is going to mean that delivery staff will be out on delivery for way longer

[Cedar_Room]

Other parcel companies do not deliver letters or D2D’s so it’s pointless to compare us with Amazon etc,despite RM’s absolute obsession with doing so

I know that the people on my delivery would rather have their items delivered early in the day. If you order something via RM you still presume it is going to arrive during the morning & more than likely not on a Sunday. The public know this & guess what,people are still using RM & if my office is anything to go by,parcels are through the roof.

The thing with Royal Mail is that it is being stretched in 101 different directions. It doesn’t know what it is,anymore.

Park & Loop no longer works - the duties are too big. Totally unmanageable.

Auto redelivery is a farce & another waste of time. The new P739’s are cluttered,unclear & a nightmare to fill out (our office has almost run out of the new cards anyway - LOL - you actually can’t make this stuff up)

It’s been said a thousand times on here but I just don’t get RM’s agenda to over complicate every single thing in order to save money. Everything they try inevitably fails in a spectacular fashion…

[milly]

People can cling on to those halcyon days all they like but Royal Mail will slowly align with other delivery companies.
The Union have done a decent job of delaying and mitigating this so far despite what the extremists on here say.

[yubin282]

We don't have any competitors, no other company delivers mail.

[guardianangel]

Royal Mail for sure has a future,the posties not so much as the job it was once under public ownership,its definitely going down the road as just another delivery job where respect for the worker has gone and the multi million pound companies get their goods delivered on the cheap while delivery companies reap high rewards at the expense of workers.It was always going to go this way under privatisation im just surprised it has taken so long seen as the Tory run regulator hasn't really regulated it for years and that was smoke and mirrors so the Tories could justify privatisation. The CWU in my opinion if the deal goes through have come to the end of the road ,i chose not to work for other delivery companies because of the long hours ,little pay,no respect and its utter disregard for its workers and if this deal goes through we are well on that road to being one of them and then i will choose not to work for them either,its all in our hands will we grasp the chance to turn it around or fall by the wayside as just another gig economy delivery company,ill vote NO as we have nothing to lose.

[guardianangel]

People can cling on to those halcyon days all they like but Royal Mail will slowly align with other delivery companies.
The Union have done a decent job of delaying and mitigating this so far despite what the extremists on here say.

That comment there is the exact reason why the delivery sector is one of the worst to work in for pay terms and conditions ,the acceptance by the unions and workers that we are worthless, we are not.

[heraldmoth]

Customers want the item next day is a myth otherwise why have we brought in auto re-delivery? In my opinion the “humble” postie will become a part time no pride in the job affair com in around 9 and deliver mail till abt 2 then if u want full time it’s parcels 10-7 for u my laddy

[milly]

People can cling on to those halcyon days all they like but Royal Mail will slowly align with other delivery companies.
The Union have done a decent job of delaying and mitigating this so far despite what the extremists on here say.

That comment there is the exact reason why the delivery sector is one of the worst to work in for pay terms and conditions ,the acceptance by the unions and workers that we are worthless, we are not.

What are you proposing instead to get much better wages and conditions and yet stay competitive?

[Nickvilla20]

The future is certainly longer and later deliveries and maybe a 5 day USO.

The delivery sector as a whole is having recruitment problems as it’s long hours for poor pay. Hopefully a recruitment crises in the sector will work to our advantage.