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What's not been mentioned in the new agreement

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daveyeff
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Re: What’s not been mentioned in the new agreement

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Acca Dacca wrote:
10 May 2023, 18:36
daveyeff wrote:
10 May 2023, 18:21
our rep reckons you will still get the extra 6k if there are more redundancies. f***ing joke.
Only half of the people in our office that got VR got the 6k extra because the other half werent offered it until months later - they were spitting feathers
some in ours didn't get the 6k because of service/seniority. they were expecting all the old school/senior staff to snatch their hands off for the money, but it backfired on them big style. most of the 10 who left on VR were younguns. in their late 30s early 40s. so they didn't have the required service/seniority in to get the full amount. gaffers were heard to be moaning on cos all the senior oldies with health issues are still here. :Very Happy
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Re: What’s not been mentioned in the new agreement

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daveyeff wrote:
10 May 2023, 18:43
Acca Dacca wrote:
10 May 2023, 18:36
daveyeff wrote:
10 May 2023, 18:21
our rep reckons you will still get the extra 6k if there are more redundancies. f***ing joke.
Only half of the people in our office that got VR got the 6k extra because the other half werent offered it until months later - they were spitting feathers
some in ours didn't get the 6k because of service/seniority. they were expecting all the old school/senior staff to snatch their hands off for the money, but it backfired on them big style. most of the 10 who left on VR were younguns. in their late 30s early 40s. so they didn't have the required service/seniority in to get the full amount. gaffers were heard to be moaning on cos all the senior oldies with health issues are still here. :Very Happy
I dont think that seniority or service length was the requirement to get the additional 6k - it just had to be rubberstamped by a certain date, which was the end of January if I recall

Those who didnt get it, were the ones offered VR after that cutoff - which was unfair as it didnt matter if you applied in November, unless it was offered and signed off by the deadline you didnt get the extra
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royalanneb
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Re: What’s not been mentioned in the new agreement

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Mozilla what are the existing MTSF terms ? ( manage the surplus framework…an agreement to manage major change with regards to redundancy and relocation)
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Re: What’s not been mentioned in the new agreement

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Despite Wardy and the boys crowing, and the Postal exec saying they're looking into revisions - I'm under the impression (been told) that NO reversal on massive duties NO new recruits after we've lost so many good people. NO worthwhile VR, as opposed to 2 years money. I'd love to finish at 4pm, having earnt no ot, and get home 5-6-7 o'clock depending on traffic. Sounds a cracking deal for £500 and a slap on the chops.
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Re: What’s not been mentioned in the new agreement

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royalanneb wrote:
10 May 2023, 18:54
Mozilla what are the existing MTSF terms ? ( manage the surplus framework…an agreement to manage major change with regards to redundancy and relocation)
Max 104 Weeks but you needed to be at least 27 Service years in and over 47 age for that as a guide now max 30 weeks and a hell of a lot less if less than 55 age and service less 30. Not good the UK redundancy calculators will give you a bench mark!
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Re: What's not been mentioned in the new agreement

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It’s odd , when I look at this topic under blue shirts I can see there was a reply post today. Normally these topics are placed in order of which topic had the most recent reply. This topic is way down the order with replies from 9 th of May. I would expect it to be near the top with other posts that had a reply today. Odd…..
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Re: What's not been mentioned in the new agreement

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Sorry I can see why, the topic was moved to pay talks 2022 page.