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If the agreement ballot comes back as a NO
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k979aaa
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Re: If the agreement ballot comes back as a NO
Example:
NO Do you agree with accepting the agreement
Yes Do you agree with not accepting the agreement
Look at the wording and the choice you have it should be yes or no.
Thing is just saying NO or YES is not what the ballot paper says read it learn and if you put an X in the box
Do one thing know who your voting for and the reasons and policy's they have and have some photo ID with you!
NO Do you agree with accepting the agreement
Yes Do you agree with not accepting the agreement
Look at the wording and the choice you have it should be yes or no.
Thing is just saying NO or YES is not what the ballot paper says read it learn and if you put an X in the box
Do one thing know who your voting for and the reasons and policy's they have and have some photo ID with you!
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Tman
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Re: If the agreement ballot comes back as a NO
Seems more than a little naive, to say the least.
Pinning hopes on Slippery Starmer being any friend of the Working Man (should he get into power, which as yet is far from guaranteed) seems fanciful.
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k979aaa
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Re: If the agreement ballot comes back as a NO
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pmn123
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Re: If the agreement ballot comes back as a NO
Working people don't have time, never have had time to run a country that's the point, they made it hard enuff to survive let alone run a country...
We know what it takes to live but now we're being just told to survive, by those fattened on the work of our Labour....
Vote No
Fu....em
We know what it takes to live but now we're being just told to survive, by those fattened on the work of our Labour....
Vote No
Fu....em
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sweepster70
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Re: If the agreement ballot comes back as a NO
Don't tell people how to vote. Let them choose themselves.pmn123 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 21:41Working people don't have time, never have had time to run a country that's the point, they made it hard enuff to survive let alone run a country...
We know what it takes to live but now we're being just told to survive, by those fattened on the work of our Labour....
Vote No
Fu....em
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aiden01
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Re: If the agreement ballot comes back as a NO
Exactlysweepster70 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 23:02Don't tell people how to vote. Let them choose themselves.pmn123 wrote: ↑30 Apr 2023, 21:41Working people don't have time, never have had time to run a country that's the point, they made it hard enuff to survive let alone run a country...
We know what it takes to live but now we're being just told to survive, by those fattened on the work of our Labour....
Vote No
Fu....em
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Tman
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guardianangel
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Re: If the agreement ballot comes back as a NO
We carry on striking,shares will plummet,they can impose whatever they like but with strikes on going the pressure will always be on them ,i really dont understand some of the defeatist attitude on here,i'll be voting NO !!! but if for some unbelievable reason there is a yes vote i'll be leaving the union or what really is the point of being a member,they cant stop you from being sacked we have seen that and if they lose you t's and c's and get you a pay cut whats the point of paying for something you are not getting,its like paying for an insurance that never pays out.All those years fighting for benefits for it to be given away so cheaply.
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Nickvilla20
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Re: If the agreement ballot comes back as a NO
There won’t be any more strikes.guardianangel wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 17:48We carry on striking,shares will plummet,they can impose whatever they like but with strikes on going the pressure will always be on them ,i really dont understand some of the defeatist attitude on here,i'll be voting NO !!! but if for some unbelievable reason there is a yes vote i'll be leaving the union or what really is the point of being a member,they cant stop you from being sacked we have seen that and if they lose you t's and c's and get you a pay cut whats the point of paying for something you are not getting,its like paying for an insurance that never pays out.All those years fighting for benefits for it to be given away so cheaply.
Why would the union call more strikes when they’ve agreed a deal with the company?
You’ve said you’re voting no on many threads but what would you accept?
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LouBarlow
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Re: If the agreement ballot comes back as a NO
There will be no strikes. The union have settled on this deal for a reason. There is no more to be squeezed out of the company right now plus there is next to no appetite to lose more money on this dispute, barring from some extremists on here, who imagine that a 15% back-dated pay-rise and a return to 12 o’clock finishes is a possibility.guardianangel wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 17:48We carry on striking,shares will plummet,they can impose whatever they like but with strikes on going the pressure will always be on them ,i really dont understand some of the defeatist attitude on here,i'll be voting NO !!! but if for some unbelievable reason there is a yes vote i'll be leaving the union or what really is the point of being a member,they cant stop you from being sacked we have seen that and if they lose you t's and c's and get you a pay cut whats the point of paying for something you are not getting,its like paying for an insurance that never pays out.All those years fighting for benefits for it to be given away so cheaply.
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Nickvilla20
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Re: If the agreement ballot comes back as a NO
We would have to be reballoted for strike anyway and the union won’t do that as they have an agreement.LouBarlow wrote: ↑02 May 2023, 05:07There will be no strikes. The union have settled on this deal for a reason. There is no more to be squeezed out of the company right now plus there is next to no appetite to lose more money on this dispute, barring from some extremists on here, who imagine that a 15% back-dated pay-rise and a return to 12 o’clock finishes is a possibility.guardianangel wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 17:48We carry on striking,shares will plummet,they can impose whatever they like but with strikes on going the pressure will always be on them ,i really dont understand some of the defeatist attitude on here,i'll be voting NO !!! but if for some unbelievable reason there is a yes vote i'll be leaving the union or what really is the point of being a member,they cant stop you from being sacked we have seen that and if they lose you t's and c's and get you a pay cut whats the point of paying for something you are not getting,its like paying for an insurance that never pays out.All those years fighting for benefits for it to be given away so cheaply.
I get why people will vote no but I’ve not seen any decent counter proposals to the offer.
Seems the union were their own worse enemy in some ways and promised more than they could deliver. Big changes were always going to happen.
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guardianangel
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Re: If the agreement ballot comes back as a NO
I dont know what white flag office you work in but over 100 posties in mine are voting NO !!! i think you might have a surprise.LouBarlow wrote: ↑02 May 2023, 05:07There will be no strikes. The union have settled on this deal for a reason. There is no more to be squeezed out of the company right now plus there is next to no appetite to lose more money on this dispute, barring from some extremists on here, who imagine that a 15% back-dated pay-rise and a return to 12 o’clock finishes is a possibility.guardianangel wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 17:48We carry on striking,shares will plummet,they can impose whatever they like but with strikes on going the pressure will always be on them ,i really dont understand some of the defeatist attitude on here,i'll be voting NO !!! but if for some unbelievable reason there is a yes vote i'll be leaving the union or what really is the point of being a member,they cant stop you from being sacked we have seen that and if they lose you t's and c's and get you a pay cut whats the point of paying for something you are not getting,its like paying for an insurance that never pays out.All those years fighting for benefits for it to be given away so cheaply.
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guardianangel
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Disagree ,the rcn backed the deal and the nurses voted NO so they are now back on strike ,we have a mandate until August so when it comes back NO i would expect strikes to be called for end of June until August before reballot,Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑02 May 2023, 05:39We would have to be reballoted for strike anyway and the union won’t do that as they have an agreement.LouBarlow wrote: ↑02 May 2023, 05:07There will be no strikes. The union have settled on this deal for a reason. There is no more to be squeezed out of the company right now plus there is next to no appetite to lose more money on this dispute, barring from some extremists on here, who imagine that a 15% back-dated pay-rise and a return to 12 o’clock finishes is a possibility.guardianangel wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 17:48We carry on striking,shares will plummet,they can impose whatever they like but with strikes on going the pressure will always be on them ,i really dont understand some of the defeatist attitude on here,i'll be voting NO !!! but if for some unbelievable reason there is a yes vote i'll be leaving the union or what really is the point of being a member,they cant stop you from being sacked we have seen that and if they lose you t's and c's and get you a pay cut whats the point of paying for something you are not getting,its like paying for an insurance that never pays out.All those years fighting for benefits for it to be given away so cheaply.
I get why people will vote no but I’ve not seen any decent counter proposals to the offer.
Seems the union were their own worse enemy in some ways and promised more than they could deliver. Big changes were always going to happen.
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Nickvilla20
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Re: If the agreement ballot comes back as a NO
It won’t happen. The appetite for striking is now gone we was out for 18 days and this was the best they could come up with.guardianangel wrote: ↑02 May 2023, 05:52Disagree ,the rcn backed the deal and the nurses voted NO so they are now back on strike ,we have a mandate until August so when it comes back NO i would expect strikes to be called for end of June until August before reballot,Nickvilla20 wrote: ↑02 May 2023, 05:39We would have to be reballoted for strike anyway and the union won’t do that as they have an agreement.LouBarlow wrote: ↑02 May 2023, 05:07There will be no strikes. The union have settled on this deal for a reason. There is no more to be squeezed out of the company right now plus there is next to no appetite to lose more money on this dispute, barring from some extremists on here, who imagine that a 15% back-dated pay-rise and a return to 12 o’clock finishes is a possibility.guardianangel wrote: ↑01 May 2023, 17:48We carry on striking,shares will plummet,they can impose whatever they like but with strikes on going the pressure will always be on them ,i really dont understand some of the defeatist attitude on here,i'll be voting NO !!! but if for some unbelievable reason there is a yes vote i'll be leaving the union or what really is the point of being a member,they cant stop you from being sacked we have seen that and if they lose you t's and c's and get you a pay cut whats the point of paying for something you are not getting,its like paying for an insurance that never pays out.All those years fighting for benefits for it to be given away so cheaply.
I get why people will vote no but I’ve not seen any decent counter proposals to the offer.
Seems the union were their own worse enemy in some ways and promised more than they could deliver. Big changes were always going to happen.
I admire your fighting spirit but in reality none of that is going to happen. Also nurses and teachers are an essential service and we aren’t. We are now just another delivery company.