This deal is a pay cut

[Ddarko85]

And the concessions that have been made are awful.

‘It could have been worse’ is a poor stance really.

Compromise is perfectly fine, but a pay cut and the concessions made means this is an awful deal.

Vote for this, and be prepared to look for a new job within the next 2 years in my opinion.

/rant over.

[2yearpostie]

No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.

[DGH]

I think you can understand the concept of a 'real terms pay cut', which this is, and a hefty one.

[groundhog_day]

No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.

Do you really not understand the impact of inflation on wages?
RM Management must love posties with your outlook
"Please sir, hit me some more...and kick me again while your at it"

[LouBarlow]

No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.

Do you really not understand the impact of inflation on wages?
You must be RM Managements wet dream
"Please sir, hit me some more..."

You can spin it all you want but it stil doesn’t make the offer a paycut.

[Acca Dacca]

No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.

Do you know how inflation works?

[LouBarlow]

No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.

Do you know how inflation works?

Inflation has nothing to do with it. They are offering more money. That isn’t a pay cut.

[Flashman_]

No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.

[zz666]

No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.

Do you know how inflation works?

Inflation has nothing to do with it. They are offering more money. That isn’t a pay cut.

Why do you think other unions reject paltry wage rises? Because if you factor in inflation they are wage cuts in essence.

[LouBarlow]

Put it another way, would you rather continue doing your job with your current pay, or the pay rate being offered?

If it is the former, you can send your pay increase to me if you don’t want it.

No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.

Do you know how inflation works?

Inflation has nothing to do with it. They are offering more money. That isn’t a pay cut.

Why do you think other unions reject paltry wage rises? Because if you factor in inflation they are wage cuts in essence.

So when inflation comes down, your wage goes down in turn?

[Zicomurphy]

No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.

It would also have been illegal. Minimum wage currently £10.42 p/h and increases every year.

[DGH]

So when inflation comes down, your wage goes down in turn?

Erm, no. When inflation goes down you can accept smaller pay rises.

Say you accepted 10% and inflation was 10%. If in the following year inflation falls to 3% you still need an additional 3% over and above the 10% you had last year in order to keep pace.

You're confusing a decrease in inflation with an actual fall in prices.

[groundhog_day]

So when inflation comes down, your wage goes down in turn?

But that is not how inflation works.

When inflation comes down the cost of living still RISES but by a lesser amount (unless inflation is negative which it rarely is).

e.g
If inflation is 10% in year 1 and 5% in year 2 the cost of living has still risen a further 5% in year 2 (it has not dropped by 5%).

[Hyrrokkin]

No sweetie, it would have been a pay cut if they had said we want to take your wages from £13.39 p/h down to £10.09 p/h over 3 years instead of up to the £14 something on offer.

Do you know how inflation works?

Ignore him he is a weirdo

[Foxel]

So when inflation comes down, your wage goes down in turn?

Inflation is always an increase, which is why it was named inflation. So even if the rate comes down, prices are still going up just not as quickly. So at no point would you need to reduce your wage.