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Special Administration

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Kenfandango
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Re: Special Administration

Post by Kenfandango »

Royal Mail have crapped all over the floor and are asking us to clean up their mess. Now we are fighting over who gets to clean it and how, when we were originally fighting to get them to use a toilet
jbo5066
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Re: Special Administration

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Agree with an earlier post, if we go into administration, for managers it will be a bloodbath!! No golden handshakes either - minimum payoff... Will still need posties because any government administrator will be told to.protect the USO - no government will allow the country to be without a postal service - will be a monumental embarrassment!
k979aaa
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Re: Special Administration

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Well I think the only way of getting rid of this parasite of the bonus culture is for this to happen it is not for the want of uncertainty but for the sake of clarity!
heraldmoth
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Re: Special Administration

Post by heraldmoth »

The best option as mentioned before is quietly quit. Don’t burden yourself with what happens to the company or what they expect your workload to be, tick the boxes and go home. Believe me there’s work out there and the government will make sure u don’t miss out on it. These negotiations apart I’ve never had an easier 4 years
sindba
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Re: Special Administration

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jbo5066 wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 16:18
Agree with an earlier post, if we go into administration, for managers it will be a bloodbath!! No golden handshakes either - minimum payoff... Will still need posties because any government administrator will be told to.protect the USO - no government will allow the country to be without a postal service - will be a monumental embarrassment!
Exactly. We will still have jobs, just with crap pay, terms and conditions. Which is exactly what RM are offering us now. So what do we have to lose?

Good deal or strikes. That's it.
heraldmoth
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Re: Special Administration

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Only thing in most other jobs ur not out in the elements with crappy uniform. Get annoyed vent ur anger but don’t take it personal
k979aaa
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Re: Special Administration

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It's been bleeded white for the last 25 years by leaders and governments. And then privatization came with the bonus culture and share holders 1516 to 2013 government hands 497 years and run by the will of the free market capitalism 9 years 7 months is all it took!
dazzler123
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Re: Special Administration

Post by dazzler123 »

k979aaa wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 16:27
Well I think the only way of getting rid of this parasite of the bonus culture is for this to happen it is not for the want of uncertainty but for the sake of clarity!
jbo5066 wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 16:18
Agree with an earlier post, if we go into administration, for managers it will be a bloodbath!! No golden handshakes either - minimum payoff... Will still need posties because any government administrator will be told to.protect the USO - no government will allow the country to be without a postal service - will be a monumental embarrassment!
im on board with this. This board will only screw us over and over further down the line anyway, let them be remembered as the ones who destroyed Royal Mail. Feck 'em
k979aaa
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Re: Special Administration

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It is not us that caused this but them they imposed the pay rise last year and they are the root of the problem let it burn.
jbo5066
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Re: Special Administration

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Even if there is a crappy deal this time, this won't be the end of it - next round of pay talks, RM will want even more concessions - this will be the theme until there is nothing left to take!
Hyrrokkin
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Re: Special Administration

Post by Hyrrokkin »

priority102 wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 12:05
Numerous employees who CANNOT, or simply refuse to, think outside of the box are in for a huge wake up call.

All these minority can do is repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat the same lines - greedy shareholders took all the money....managers paid over and above....etc.

As rightly disgusting as all that is - harping on and on and on and on about it is not going to change a thing now going forward. The mess has been created and a solution needs to be found.

If you think things are bad now, you will see just how bad things CAN and WILL get if administration happens. Ward and Co are silent for a reason, they know more that they can let on. It's gone from "this is a 2 part dispute, a no strings pay rise and terms and conditions", to puffed out chests and "we will win this dispute no doubt", then to "win the ballot, win the dispute", and now to silence.

Every picture tells a story......
Utter rubbish

Pathetic
k979aaa
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Re: Special Administration

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Well we will see I would rather the whole thing goes bust than support the parasites that leach off us all and watch the Ponzi Scheme go under for that is what it is!
Poppyellie69
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Re: Special Administration

Post by Poppyellie69 »

Correct,we've never been as close to the minimum wage as we are now, rather die on my feet than live on my knees!! Stay strong
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Special Administration

Post by SpacePhoenix »

sindba wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 16:41
jbo5066 wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 16:18
Agree with an earlier post, if we go into administration, for managers it will be a bloodbath!! No golden handshakes either - minimum payoff... Will still need posties because any government administrator will be told to.protect the USO - no government will allow the country to be without a postal service - will be a monumental embarrassment!
Exactly. We will still have jobs, just with crap pay, terms and conditions. Which is exactly what RM are offering us now. So what do we have to lose?

Good deal or strikes. That's it.
If RM were to enter administration, they'd be able to rip up everyone's contracts so things like mandatory Sundays, annualised hours, commit to deliver, all delivery staff being able to drive, no allowances or paid breaks, etc (I'm sure that we could think of other stuff) could easily be brought in and there's nothing the union would be able to do
k979aaa
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Re: Special Administration

Post by k979aaa »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 19:28
sindba wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 16:41
jbo5066 wrote:
13 Apr 2023, 16:18
Agree with an earlier post, if we go into administration, for managers it will be a bloodbath!! No golden handshakes either - minimum payoff... Will still need posties because any government administrator will be told to.protect the USO - no government will allow the country to be without a postal service - will be a monumental embarrassment!
Exactly. We will still have jobs, just with crap pay, terms and conditions. Which is exactly what RM are offering us now. So what do we have to lose?

Good deal or strikes. That's it.
If RM were to enter administration, they'd be able to rip up everyone's contracts so things like mandatory Sundays, annualised hours, commit to deliver, all delivery staff being able to drive, no allowances or paid breaks, etc (I'm sure that we could think of other stuff) could easily be brought in and there's nothing the union would be able to do
The management are doing it already with our terms and conditions.