ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

Solution to finances?

Pay talks 2022 discussion, news, LTB's RMCtv and all BUSINESS RECOVERY, TRANSFORMATION AND GROWTH AGREEMENT chat
Judgee
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 2259
Joined: 23 Oct 2007, 15:18

Solution to finances?

Post by Judgee »

Privatisation was supposedly to lead to greater funding but it hasn't. All that's happened is that share holders have pocketed all profits that have been made.

But there is a way for RM to raise funds and they haven't used it yet and I can't understand why? They can issue more shares to raise funds! Ok so the share price will drop but current share holders can hardly complain when they have already milked this cash cow for years!

So in basic terms they can issue more shares to cover the cost of a decent pay rise and be half way to settling this dispute for the good of everyone! Why have the CWU not pushed this idea? Or have they and got nowhere with it? :hmmmm
Union what Union? Do we have a union?
clashcityrocker
Posts: 16413
Joined: 22 Sep 2009, 13:50
Gender: Male
Location: strummerville

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by clashcityrocker »

Judgee wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 16:02

But there is a way for RM to raise funds and they haven't used it yet and I can't understand why? They can issue more shares to raise funds!
Given that they spent £200 million on a buy-back scheme and cancelled the shares, issuing more shares would seem a bit bizarre.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
robking
Posts: 236
Joined: 19 Dec 2020, 12:14
Gender: Male

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by robking »

They would need a solid business plan to get people to buy the extra shares, including measures to transform the business so that it generates profits and an attractive dividend.
But this is what they say they are trying to do with their proposals that have led to the dispute.
britwrit
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 960
Joined: 22 Apr 2007, 15:12

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by britwrit »

Other people have said on here - and which sounds perfectly logical - that issuing new shares would dilute the ownership share of existing stockholders.
Yumyum
Posts: 27
Joined: 28 Mar 2014, 13:16
Gender: Male

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by Yumyum »

It's so f@#$ing easy,,,I don't know why no ones mentioned it,,specially the union.
All that shitty DSA that we deliver on 'the final mile' for peanuts,,we basically make a loss on. I guess it's just been to cosy,, or too stupid to raise the price,,I mean who else is gonna deliver it. Just a smallish increase could easily pay for a inflation busting pay rise :dance :nana :chuckle
DirtyHarry
Posts: 5051
Joined: 13 May 2007, 23:16
Gender: Male
Location: London

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by DirtyHarry »

Solution to finances?

Well, not paying airheads like Thompson £65,750 a month, would go some way to shoring up any leaks.
mw7485
Posts: 123
Joined: 02 Dec 2013, 15:41
Gender: Female

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by mw7485 »

Yumyum wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:13
It's so f@#$ing easy,,,I don't know why no ones mentioned it,,specially the union.
All that shitty DSA that we deliver on 'the final mile' for peanuts,,we basically make a loss on. I guess it's just been to cosy,, or too stupid to raise the price,,I mean who else is gonna deliver it. Just a smallish increase could easily pay for a inflation busting pay rise :dance :nana :chuckle
I think the maximum we can charge for DSA is set by OFCOM.
FilthyBloke
Posts: 685
Joined: 03 Jun 2018, 11:41
Gender: Male

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by FilthyBloke »

I think more junk mail. Localised though.
Through my door every week I get takeaways menus, plumber leaflets, drain fixers, whatever else…
If Royal Mail said we will deliver them for 1p each and then when you get to a maximum of 7 they go in a nice ‘information pamphlet envelope’ type thing you could get more on junk.
1000 houses is a tenner buy with seven leaflets it would cover most of the posties wage.
Cedar_Room
Posts: 825
Joined: 31 Aug 2007, 14:09

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by Cedar_Room »

FilthyBloke wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:54
I think more junk mail. Localised though.
Through my door every week I get takeaways menus, plumber leaflets, drain fixers, whatever else…
If Royal Mail said we will deliver them for 1p each and then when you get to a maximum of 7 they go in a nice ‘information pamphlet envelope’ type thing you could get more on junk.
1000 houses is a tenner buy with seven leaflets it would cover most of the posties wage.
Fantastic input Filthy Len - definitely plenty for us all to mull over here. So informative :left:
“Shorts,in this weather?!”

“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”

“What’s she been ordering now?”
rambo1
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 3266
Joined: 12 Jun 2013, 20:00
Gender: Male

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by rambo1 »

Judgee wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 16:02
Privatisation was supposedly to lead to greater funding but it hasn't. All that's happened is that share holders have pocketed all profits that have been made.

But there is a way for RM to raise funds and they haven't used it yet and I can't understand why? They can issue more shares to raise funds! Ok so the share price will drop but current share holders can hardly complain when they have already milked this cash cow for years!

So in basic terms they can issue more shares to cover the cost of a decent pay rise and be half way to settling this dispute for the good of everyone! Why have the CWU not pushed this idea? Or have they and got nowhere with it? :hmmmm
A rights issue here now would not be ideal for the share holder. I'm sure a big dilution would go down really well with all the posties who have been putting money away every month buying shares. A rights issue to raise money for a wage increase would not be well subscribed as that wage bill would have to be found year after year and besides, to give everyone a baked in £1000/yr pay rise would cost 600-700million. Every yr, on top of any further rises. Don't think many institutions would go for that. Think in the companies currently state of finances they're really going to struggle to rais that sort of cash.
FilthyBloke
Posts: 685
Joined: 03 Jun 2018, 11:41
Gender: Male

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by FilthyBloke »

Cedar_Room wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:13
FilthyBloke wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:54
I think more junk mail. Localised though.
Through my door every week I get takeaways menus, plumber leaflets, drain fixers, whatever else…
If Royal Mail said we will deliver them for 1p each and then when you get to a maximum of 7 they go in a nice ‘information pamphlet envelope’ type thing you could get more on junk.
1000 houses is a tenner buy with seven leaflets it would cover most of the posties wage.
Fantastic input Filthy Len - definitely plenty for us all to mull over here. So informative :left:
Your humour is your most appealing feature.
k979aaa
Posts: 12578
Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
Gender: Male
Location: THE NORTH

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by k979aaa »

Sack the whole lot of s**t at the top of royal mail and we may get through another year!
Cedar_Room
Posts: 825
Joined: 31 Aug 2007, 14:09

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by Cedar_Room »

FilthyBloke wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:17
Cedar_Room wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:13
FilthyBloke wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:54
I think more junk mail. Localised though.
Through my door every week I get takeaways menus, plumber leaflets, drain fixers, whatever else…
If Royal Mail said we will deliver them for 1p each and then when you get to a maximum of 7 they go in a nice ‘information pamphlet envelope’ type thing you could get more on junk.
1000 houses is a tenner buy with seven leaflets it would cover most of the posties wage.
Fantastic input Filthy Len - definitely plenty for us all to mull over here. So informative :left:
Your humour is your most appealing feature.
Thank you for your support. It’s great that a man of such upstanding integrity should even acknowledge my presence - please keep posting your Informative content - your musings are a godsend to us all,Filthy Len :left:
“Shorts,in this weather?!”

“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”

“What’s she been ordering now?”
FilthyBloke
Posts: 685
Joined: 03 Jun 2018, 11:41
Gender: Male

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by FilthyBloke »

Cedar_Room wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:23
FilthyBloke wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:17
Cedar_Room wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:13
FilthyBloke wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:54
I think more junk mail. Localised though.
Through my door every week I get takeaways menus, plumber leaflets, drain fixers, whatever else…
If Royal Mail said we will deliver them for 1p each and then when you get to a maximum of 7 they go in a nice ‘information pamphlet envelope’ type thing you could get more on junk.
1000 houses is a tenner buy with seven leaflets it would cover most of the posties wage.
Fantastic input Filthy Len - definitely plenty for us all to mull over here. So informative :left:
Your humour is your most appealing feature.
Thank you for your support. It’s great that a man of such upstanding integrity should even acknowledge my presence - please keep posting your Informative content - your musings are a godsend to us all,Filthy Len :left:
Clearly you are having some kind of breakdown where you feel the need to comment like a child.
I’m not going to bite. I’m going to pray for you. Solidarity, brother.
Cedar_Room
Posts: 825
Joined: 31 Aug 2007, 14:09

Re: Solution to finances?

Post by Cedar_Room »

FilthyBloke wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:25
Cedar_Room wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:23
FilthyBloke wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:17
Cedar_Room wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 18:13
FilthyBloke wrote:
07 Apr 2023, 17:54
I think more junk mail. Localised though.
Through my door every week I get takeaways menus, plumber leaflets, drain fixers, whatever else…
If Royal Mail said we will deliver them for 1p each and then when you get to a maximum of 7 they go in a nice ‘information pamphlet envelope’ type thing you could get more on junk.
1000 houses is a tenner buy with seven leaflets it would cover most of the posties wage.
Fantastic input Filthy Len - definitely plenty for us all to mull over here. So informative :left:
Your humour is your most appealing feature.
Thank you for your support. It’s great that a man of such upstanding integrity should even acknowledge my presence - please keep posting your Informative content - your musings are a godsend to us all,Filthy Len :left:
Clearly you are having some kind of breakdown where you feel the need to comment like a child.
I’m not going to bite. I’m going to pray for you. Solidarity, brother.
Whatever you say,Filthy Len - I’m with you all the way - love your content - I’m on your side :left:
“Shorts,in this weather?!”

“If they’re bills I don’t want ‘em!”

“What’s she been ordering now?”