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[Poppyellie69]

You can borrow my balls dave and call a strike, didn't think so ,get back to bed with slymon!!!

[chickenwittle]

You can borrow my balls dave and call a strike, didn't think so ,get back to bed with slymon!!!

More strikes are not going to change a thing , I can’t believe people aren’t getting this , the mandate was to back the union in negotiations.

[Shadedpostie]

From what was said in the broadcast, they've actually agreed on the annualised hours, start/finish times to 60-90 minutes and the sick pay. It's going to be a kick in a teeth to members since they are key points members are striking for. But, based on what I've seen on the job market you won't find that many jobs with the same schedule as RM, so it's going to be a hard pill to swallow. Think the annualised hours will backfire on RM and think union know this because majority of workload is on goodwill and the moment they introduce this practice to the workplace, people will stop working for nothing and won't go over their time if they don't benefit at all from it. It's the one practice that would actually f**k them over. It cut out when he mentioned the pay offers so not a clue what they thought of it. I'll actually give props to them for actually finally being open about what proposals they agree with but still haven't really said what they have put on the table themselves. To wait another week as well after this news is truly morally deflating.

[aiden01]

You can borrow my balls dave and call a strike, didn't think so ,get back to bed with slymon!!!

After a good nights sleep you won't have to worry seeing you are pulling out of union.

[worktotime]

one of the things that f****d me off was ward saying we know the pressure your under with workload , bullying etc due to the revisions the company have railroaded in with E/A , but you all need to be happy with that as it will get a lot worse if the company have they way , so why havent he and the waste of time pec served notice for i/a due to these changes against agreement ?

[freespeech]

If the deal is what RM have basically offered, which is 10% over 3 years, you can make that 13% over 3 years just by cancelling your union subs.

Just saying……

No union and we wouldnt have even been offered the measly 2% for last year

Just saying...

That was a start point not an end point.

[k979aaa]

Why are people saying that there is no deal or no deal to vote on by members.

The old style agreements are dead! What is on offer is the deal when it is agreed?

You cannot keep talking and talking until you get what you want. This is a business with a plan and it is not a two-way thing of meeting in the middle. How will that even work?

RM has made some concessions and it is time to put the vote to members; and if rejected, then you can carry on striking until you get what you want or the business collapses and you still won't get what you want

The Union are not in the business of running a company!

* The pay deal is not really better than the final final offer that could have been accepted last October/November. It was for 18 months and we probably would have got another 2% or so (as a follow on) in April 2025.

Either way, we work for money, let's take the money and if not happy then leave...

Oh vote on sound bytes now and who is going to run that vote managers voting at work cooking the books like doing have your say and may I add your 100% a company man aren't you!

[Wheelbarrow]

We’re all ready doing 1 hour more delivery than last year having to cut off or claim plus we now start at 715 and finish on longs at 310, this has all gone through with reps approval so what is the point of strike it’s already started to change and no union can or wants to do anything about it

[chickenwittle]

From what was said in the broadcast, they've actually agreed on the annualised hours, start/finish times to 60-90 minutes and the sick pay. It's going to be a kick in a teeth to members since they are key points members are striking for. But, based on what I've seen on the job market you won't find that many jobs with the same schedule as RM, so it's going to be a hard pill to swallow. Think the annualised hours will backfire on RM and think union know this because majority of workload is on goodwill and the moment they introduce this practice to the workplace, people will stop working for nothing and won't go over their time if they don't benefit at all from it. It's the one practice that would actually f**k them over. It cut out when he mentioned the pay offers so not a clue what they thought of it. I'll actually give props to them for actually finally being open about what proposals they agree with but still haven't really said what they have put on the table themselves. To wait another week as well after this news is truly morally deflating.

I don’t think annualised hours is a big deal , see it as longs and shorts and like you say may work in our favour, start and finish times will depend on office to office, some might win some might lose . Sick pay is a disappointment but as someone who doesn’t milk the system it shouldn’t affect me much.

[Acca Dacca]

If the deal is what RM have basically offered, which is 10% over 3 years, you can make that 13% over 3 years just by cancelling your union subs.

Just saying……

No union and we wouldnt have even been offered the measly 2% for last year

Just saying...

That was a start point not an end point.

I said if there was NO UNION we wouldnt have even been given the 2% RM imposed

[TopperGas]

one of the things that f****d me off was ward saying we know the pressure your under with workload , bullying etc due to the revisions the company have railroaded in with E/A , but you all need to be happy with that as it will get a lot worse if the company have they way , so why havent he and the waste of time pec served notice for i/a due to these changes against agreement ?

So basically we should look forward to it getting worse as the union have shown themselves to be totally toothless.

[heraldmoth]

And how do you keep track of annualised hours? Trust management when they say “right u owe me 50 hours over the next 2 months” or go back to the dry lunch of a union and complain?

[k979aaa]

From what was said in the broadcast, they've actually agreed on the annualised hours, start/finish times to 60-90 minutes and the sick pay. It's going to be a kick in a teeth to members since they are key points members are striking for. But, based on what I've seen on the job market you won't find that many jobs with the same schedule as RM, so it's going to be a hard pill to swallow. Think the annualised hours will backfire on RM and think union know this because majority of workload is on goodwill and the moment they introduce this practice to the workplace, people will stop working for nothing and won't go over their time if they don't benefit at all from it. It's the one practice that would actually f**k them over. It cut out when he mentioned the pay offers so not a clue what they thought of it. I'll actually give props to them for actually finally being open about what proposals they agree with but still haven't really said what they have put on the table themselves. To wait another week as well after this news is truly morally deflating.

I don’t think annualised hours is a big deal , see it as longs and shorts and like you say may work in our favour, start and finish times will depend on office to office, some might win some might lose . Sick pay is a disappointment but as someone who doesn’t milk the system it shouldn’t affect me much.

IHR is a big NO as most will suffer from this working people to death or injury or disability.

[chickenwittle]

From what was said in the broadcast, they've actually agreed on the annualised hours, start/finish times to 60-90 minutes and the sick pay. It's going to be a kick in a teeth to members since they are key points members are striking for. But, based on what I've seen on the job market you won't find that many jobs with the same schedule as RM, so it's going to be a hard pill to swallow. Think the annualised hours will backfire on RM and think union know this because majority of workload is on goodwill and the moment they introduce this practice to the workplace, people will stop working for nothing and won't go over their time if they don't benefit at all from it. It's the one practice that would actually f**k them over. It cut out when he mentioned the pay offers so not a clue what they thought of it. I'll actually give props to them for actually finally being open about what proposals they agree with but still haven't really said what they have put on the table themselves. To wait another week as well after this news is truly morally deflating.

I don’t think annualised hours is a big deal , see it as longs and shorts and like you say may work in our favour, start and finish times will depend on office to office, some might win some might lose . Sick pay is a disappointment but as someone who doesn’t milk the system it shouldn’t affect me much.

IHR is a big NO as most will suffer from this working people to death or injury or disability.

Yes agree with you there.

[world class male]

cwu won't accept new entrants on lesser t&c even though they would know this beforehand
but are willing to let every single existing postie who MUST do the school run, grandparents included potentially quit or pay someone to do it from march 24! and remember 4-30 becomes 5pm if flexing there
fantastic work by the team

plenty wanting the £1500 bung before they quit