It is a physical job. But I think the pay is about right for what we do. If the pay rise isn’t great the union should try and force through that low letterboxes are banned as they are probably the most taxing moments on the back and legs.
I have been on duties where some of the new builds are littered with these low letterboxes and I’m struggling by the end. So much so that I don’t deliver to many now. Luckily my duty has not many at all.
It’s clear that the pay deal isn’t going to be great and that the start times will change so let’s change the little annoying things instead.
I also think a system where customers have to either nominate a safe place or guarantee to be in (or a nominated neighbour) otherwise they get a text telling then to collect from the office.
Maybe even a system where if the temperature is freezing or about say 32 then you get given an extra 20 minute break.
I just think if the union can’t get a good deal then the little things may take the edge of it.
1. Low level letterboxes - is a building regulations issue, CWU can campaign for it but they can't 'force it through', latest LTB on it is
available through this topic thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=109137&p=1038676&hi ... l#p1038676
2. Customers can 'in flight' this sort of detail/solution now. Don't know how you can force someone to 'guarantee to be in' - if they're not
what's the 'punishment' - RTS? That wouldn't go down well with the sending customer if it's one of the big 'Tracked' contracts. People
already get or can look for a status notification if the item has a barcode that is trackable, but half the time the customer who spends ages
ordering parcels off the t'interweb don't seem to able to check the status of their items to make an 'in flt' request the night before.
3. Too many variables with the temperature thing. Freezing where and at what time? If it's freezing at 9am when you're indoors
prepping but is 5 degs when you go out but drops down to freezing again at 2pm do you get extra 20? If a 9am SD driver goes out
in the minus temperatures for an hour then comes back into the office do they get an extra 20? But if you're out on a rural
and it's freezing where can you take your break where it's warm...etc. etc. Do you book it at the end? - and that's a whole different
thread topic! If it's freezing out in the sticks but a toastie 3 degrees outdoors in the town do only the rurals get the extra?
I guess…..
Maybe there are some little things that can be altered though? I dunno.
It is a physical job. But I think the pay is about right for what we do. If the pay rise isn’t great the union should try and force through that low letterboxes are banned as they are probably the most taxing moments on the back and legs.
I have been on duties where some of the new builds are littered with these low letterboxes and I’m struggling by the end. So much so that I don’t deliver to many now. Luckily my duty has not many at all.
It’s clear that the pay deal isn’t going to be great and that the start times will change so let’s change the little annoying things instead.
I also think a system where customers have to either nominate a safe place or guarantee to be in (or a nominated neighbour) otherwise they get a text telling then to collect from the office.
Maybe even a system where if the temperature is freezing or about say 32 then you get given an extra 20 minute break.
I just think if the union can’t get a good deal then the little things may take the edge of it.
Our dispute was never about pay even though RM have said that we are 40% overpaid. They want to recruit new posties on less money (just above min wage) which goes to show how much the company really values us.
Ironically, the new COMs aren't overpaid on their new increased salaries of £42k plus a year though.
It's only a little annoying thing though just like the mammoth duties and later start times that RM are imposing. I wouldn't worry about the low level letterboxes as I'm sure once RM get their own way you will only be delivering the post a few days a week. Who knows, perhaps they can even have a system where customers can get a text telling them to collect it from the office?
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Currently it's still a good job. If it no longer fits childcare needs other jobs do. Not the employers problem. Most would vote in a deal to try end the toxic atmosphere. If the job isn't what you wanted in 1970 go find something that fits yours needs now. Simples
Currently it’s a shite job
It is the employers problem
Deal would not end toxic atmosphere
Childcare doesn’t come into it
Why didn’t managers who got handsome vr,s just go and find something else
And it feels worse than the 70 s
You really want to do a wee bit of research before spouting your opinionated pish
That's the problem, people will look at the pay rise (if it exists). There'll be no mention of ending the "culture" issues and no standards/procedure for what is an acceptable workload.
Exactly the same as the last 2 agreements.....SHITE.
An they were still voted in.
Both agreements were voted in by deliveries as staff in deliveries outnumber staff in RDCs and MCs combined by at least 2:1, probably now by 3:1 or even 4:1 with the big increase in the use of casuals in MCs over the last 2-3 years
Pay is £1/hr above minimum wage now for new starters. Shows the direction of the company.
Wait a few yrs an see we've fallen in behind them.
Pretty sure you can’t pay lower than the minimum wage. The clue is in the name.
Fallen in with them i should have said
On that we agree. I always thought I was pretty well paid until I looked for other jobs recently. It actually reassures me that I could walk into another job right now with similar pay.
Later starts will completely kill and attractiveness this job has to new starters. I’ve noticed many newer starters in the last few years have been working mums who want to finish work before they have to collect their kids from school.
My wife is a teacher and the TAs she works with are on terrible money but many do it because for hours are great if you have kids.
I can see Royal Mail eventually having a huge recruitment problem and will have to start paying higher wages. I even see Evri offering signing on bonuses for new recruits.
