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Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

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Wullie10
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by Wullie10 »

guardianangel wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:52
LouBarlow wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:21
twoloops wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 02:51
Spend some time with your family, they’ll be saying @ the wake, we never seen him, he was always @ work, enjoy yourself it’s later than you think 💀
What if your partner works and the kids are at school? Some people still enjoy the job believe it or not.

You need to get a hobby !!! or life :)
Another get a life brigade.... oh please for once tell us all what wonderful lifes you lead but still work for RM 😆 frankly the people who say get a life need to stop worrying about others and eh.... get a life.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by SpacePhoenix »

In the past we've had a few delivery staff working their wally week in the MC
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by guardianangel »

Wullie10 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 22:26
guardianangel wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:52
LouBarlow wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:21
twoloops wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 02:51
Spend some time with your family, they’ll be saying @ the wake, we never seen him, he was always @ work, enjoy yourself it’s later than you think 💀
What if your partner works and the kids are at school? Some people still enjoy the job believe it or not.

You need to get a hobby !!! or life :)
Another get a life brigade.... oh please for once tell us all what wonderful lifes you lead but still work for RM 😆 frankly the people who say get a life need to stop worrying about others and eh.... get a life.
Working your day off for RM will never make you rich ,you'll wake up one day and realise your no better off than the who doesn't,that's if you live as long as the one who doesn't that's why its called a rest day,as i've said if you have nothing else in your life then carry on and devote your life to RM or work all your rest days for a couple of years to buy that new car that will get you from a to b the same as mine.
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by LouBarlow »

guardianangel wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 08:25
Wullie10 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 22:26
guardianangel wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:52
LouBarlow wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:21
twoloops wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 02:51
Spend some time with your family, they’ll be saying @ the wake, we never seen him, he was always @ work, enjoy yourself it’s later than you think 💀
What if your partner works and the kids are at school? Some people still enjoy the job believe it or not.

You need to get a hobby !!! or life :)
Another get a life brigade.... oh please for once tell us all what wonderful lifes you lead but still work for RM 😆 frankly the people who say get a life need to stop worrying about others and eh.... get a life.
Working your day off for RM will never make you rich ,you'll wake up one day and realise your no better off than the who doesn't,that's if you live as long as the one who doesn't that's why its called a rest day,as i've said if you have nothing else in your life then carry on and devote your life to RM or work all your rest days for a couple of years to buy that new car that will get you from a to b the same as mine.
Mate, you are on an internet forum at 7.25am on a Sunday. Your ‘life’ is obviously as fulfilling as ours.
Wullie10
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by Wullie10 »

So the secret of a long and happy life by these life coaches who all happen to work for Royal Mail is to worry yourself sick what others are doing. Personally when I started Royal Mail I lived in a bedsit , skint. Next month I'll pay off my mortgage of my £500,000 home and will retire in a few months at 60. ALL paid for by working long hours at Royal Mail. But thanks for the free advice over the years from the "get a life brigade." Granted I had the best years but I'd never knock anyone who wants to work.
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by FilthyBloke »

guardianangel wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 08:25
Wullie10 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 22:26
guardianangel wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:52
LouBarlow wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:21
twoloops wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 02:51
Spend some time with your family, they’ll be saying @ the wake, we never seen him, he was always @ work, enjoy yourself it’s later than you think 💀
What if your partner works and the kids are at school? Some people still enjoy the job believe it or not.

You need to get a hobby !!! or life :)
Another get a life brigade.... oh please for once tell us all what wonderful lifes you lead but still work for RM 😆 frankly the people who say get a life need to stop worrying about others and eh.... get a life.
Working your day off for RM will never make you rich ,you'll wake up one day and realise your no better off than the who doesn't,that's if you live as long as the one who doesn't that's why its called a rest day,as i've said if you have nothing else in your life then carry on and devote your life to RM or work all your rest days for a couple of years to buy that new car that will get you from a to b the same as mine.
I enjoy my life and I still enjoy the job. The only day off I don’t work is a Saturday, unless I have the following week off then I don’t mind so much.

Its your outlook on life that determines your happiness.
hawkeye622
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by hawkeye622 »

FilthyBloke wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 10:57
guardianangel wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 08:25
Wullie10 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 22:26
guardianangel wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:52
LouBarlow wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:21
twoloops wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 02:51
Spend some time with your family, they’ll be saying @ the wake, we never seen him, he was always @ work, enjoy yourself it’s later than you think 💀
What if your partner works and the kids are at school? Some people still enjoy the job believe it or not.

You need to get a hobby !!! or life :)
Another get a life brigade.... oh please for once tell us all what wonderful lifes you lead but still work for RM 😆 frankly the people who say get a life need to stop worrying about others and eh.... get a life.
Working your day off for RM will never make you rich ,you'll wake up one day and realise your no better off than the who doesn't,that's if you live as long as the one who doesn't that's why its called a rest day,as i've said if you have nothing else in your life then carry on and devote your life to RM or work all your rest days for a couple of years to buy that new car that will get you from a to b the same as mine.
I enjoy my life and I still enjoy the job. The only day off I don’t work is a Saturday, unless I have the following week off then I don’t mind so much.

Its your outlook on life that determines⁷ your happiness.
Totally agree. I work 6 days every week except when it's my Saturday off which at the minute is still one in four. Hour overtime in the mornings to prep and working my day off helps pay the bills. Fingers crossed I can get myself out of royal mail in the coming months but until then it's ALL about supplying for my family, not for the love of the job.
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by FilthyBloke »

hawkeye622 wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 11:11
FilthyBloke wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 10:57
guardianangel wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 08:25
Wullie10 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 22:26
guardianangel wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:52
LouBarlow wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:21
twoloops wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 02:51
Spend some time with your family, they’ll be saying @ the wake, we never seen him, he was always @ work, enjoy yourself it’s later than you think 💀
What if your partner works and the kids are at school? Some people still enjoy the job believe it or not.

You need to get a hobby !!! or life :)
Another get a life brigade.... oh please for once tell us all what wonderful lifes you lead but still work for RM 😆 frankly the people who say get a life need to stop worrying about others and eh.... get a life.
Working your day off for RM will never make you rich ,you'll wake up one day and realise your no better off than the who doesn't,that's if you live as long as the one who doesn't that's why its called a rest day,as i've said if you have nothing else in your life then carry on and devote your life to RM or work all your rest days for a couple of years to buy that new car that will get you from a to b the same as mine.
I enjoy my life and I still enjoy the job. The only day off I don’t work is a Saturday, unless I have the following week off then I don’t mind so much.

Its your outlook on life that determines⁷ your happiness.
Totally agree. I work 6 days every week except when it's my Saturday off which at the minute is still one in four. Hour overtime in the mornings to prep and working my day off helps pay the bills. Fingers crossed I can get myself out of royal mail in the coming months but until then it's ALL about supplying for my family, not for the love of the job.
Exactly. I work for money. Family and bills always come first.
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by Strong bull »

hawkeye622 wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 11:11
FilthyBloke wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 10:57
guardianangel wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 08:25
Wullie10 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 22:26
guardianangel wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:52
LouBarlow wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 06:21
twoloops wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 02:51
Spend some time with your family, they’ll be saying @ the wake, we never seen him, he was always @ work, enjoy yourself it’s later than you think 💀
What if your partner works and the kids are at school? Some people still enjoy the job believe it or not.

You need to get a hobby !!! or life :)
Another get a life brigade.... oh please for once tell us all what wonderful lifes you lead but still work for RM 😆 frankly the people who say get a life need to stop worrying about others and eh.... get a life.
Working your day off for RM will never make you rich ,you'll wake up one day and realise your no better off than the who doesn't,that's if you live as long as the one who doesn't that's why its called a rest day,as i've said if you have nothing else in your life then carry on and devote your life to RM or work all your rest days for a couple of years to buy that new car that will get you from a to b the same as mine.
I enjoy my life and I still enjoy the job. The only day off I don’t work is a Saturday, unless I have the following week off then I don’t mind so much.

Its your outlook on life that determines⁷ your happiness.
Totally agree. I work 6 days every week except when it's my Saturday off which at the minute is still one in four. Hour overtime in the mornings to prep and working my day off helps pay the bills. Fingers crossed I can get myself out of royal mail in the coming months but until then it's ALL about supplying for my family, not for the love of the job.

Meanwhile part timers haven't got any chance in getting a full time contract while all these people are constantly working all the OT they can
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by yellowbelly »

Strong bull wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 11:58

Meanwhile part timers haven't got any chance in getting a full time contract while all these people are constantly working all the OT they can
Can understand that comment, but that's the system that's in place with or without the agreement of CWU - the history
of it (as I understand it) was that in the past the union agreed to a OT rate on a par with normal pay rates, then decreasing
to discourage people working OT and thereby encourage more employement whether at F/T or P/T, but it's clear some people
are willing to do OT even at lower rates and RM of course are not going to say no......kerching......
Wullie10
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by Wullie10 »

I think the best policy is to write down all your income and outgoings in a diary and present them to your colleagues as I'm sure they have trouble sleeping at night.
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by ihatedogs »

dazzler123 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 10:59
ihatedogs wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 08:53
My office has recently introduced time off in lieu (TOIL)
it's an absolute game changer, I'm effectively working 4 day weeks now. So much better for work/life balance & mental health.
could you elaborate on that mate, if stuff like this was brought in lots of offices people might be more willing moving forward
Put simply, our o/t sheets have a tick box option if you want to credit the hours towards TOIL instead of getting paid for them.
We can hold TOIL hours up to our weekly contract hours and use them pretty much as we please & it's continuous throughout the year. Use some of your hours for a day off? You can do more o/t & credit it back.there are occasional refusals for the time off, peak summer etc but these are few & far between.
I did over 150 hours TOIL last year & took loads of extra days off
Works great in our office, we've just had the first week of the leave year & I worked 17 hours overtime, all of it credited to TOIL.
Can highly recommend.
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by dazzler123 »

ihatedogs wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 13:26
dazzler123 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 10:59
ihatedogs wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 08:53
My office has recently introduced time off in lieu (TOIL)
it's an absolute game changer, I'm effectively working 4 day weeks now. So much better for work/life balance & mental health.
could you elaborate on that mate, if stuff like this was brought in lots of offices people might be more willing moving forward
Put simply, our o/t sheets have a tick box option if you want to credit the hours towards TOIL instead of getting paid for them.
We can hold TOIL hours up to our weekly contract hours and use them pretty much as we please & it's continuous throughout the year. Use some of your hours for a day off? You can do more o/t & credit it back.there are occasional refusals for the time off, peak summer etc but these are few & far between.
I did over 150 hours TOIL last year & took loads of extra days off
Works great in our office, we've just had the first week of the leave year & I worked 17 hours overtime, all of it credited to TOIL.
Can highly recommend.
sounds really good, if thats a newish thing hope its introduced elsewhere
ihatedogs
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by ihatedogs »

dazzler123 wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 14:10
ihatedogs wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 13:26
dazzler123 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 10:59
ihatedogs wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 08:53
My office has recently introduced time off in lieu (TOIL)
it's an absolute game changer, I'm effectively working 4 day weeks now. So much better for work/life balance & mental health.
This is our third year doing this, hopefully it becomes standard.

could you elaborate on that mate, if stuff like this was brought in lots of offices people might be more willing moving forward
Put simply, our o/t sheets have a tick box option if you want to credit the hours towards TOIL instead of getting paid for them.
We can hold TOIL hours up to our weekly contract hours and use them pretty much as we please & it's continuous throughout the year. Use some of your hours for a day off? You can do more o/t & credit it back.there are occasional refusals for the time off, peak summer etc but these are few & far between.
I did over 150 hours TOIL last year & took loads of extra days off
Works great in our office, we've just had the first week of the leave year & I worked 17 hours overtime, all of it credited to TOIL.
Can highly recommend.
sounds really good, if thats a newish thing hope its introduced elsewhere
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Re: Has working rest days now been officially stopped??

Post by ted_e_bear »

ihatedogs wrote:
02 Apr 2023, 13:26
dazzler123 wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 10:59
ihatedogs wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 08:53
My office has recently introduced time off in lieu (TOIL)
it's an absolute game changer, I'm effectively working 4 day weeks now. So much better for work/life balance & mental health.
could you elaborate on that mate, if stuff like this was brought in lots of offices people might be more willing moving forward
Put simply, our o/t sheets have a tick box option if you want to credit the hours towards TOIL instead of getting paid for them.
We can hold TOIL hours up to our weekly contract hours and use them pretty much as we please & it's continuous throughout the year. Use some of your hours for a day off? You can do more o/t & credit it back.there are occasional refusals for the time off, peak summer etc but these are few & far between.
I did over 150 hours TOIL last year & took loads of extra days off
Works great in our office, we've just had the first week of the leave year & I worked 17 hours overtime, all of it credited to TOIL.
Can highly recommend.
Can't see that happening at our office, if anyone asks for an odd day off more than likely the answer is no, and that's usually before you've even said when it is.