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Granma
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Do you honestly believe that there are election procedures that can be implemented by CWU HQ in the unfortunate event of a Branch being suspended by HQ? I don't!
Nor do i believe that there is another set of rules dealing with suspended Branches.
Therefore are CWU HQ compliant within the present rules and procedures in respect of members from NI No1 wishing to take run for NEC Elections?
Are we an inclusive union or are some people within HQ practising forms of exclusion against members of an Irish Branch?
Over to you Tony it would seem and trust you can be more enlightening than Big Daz.
Nor do i believe that there is another set of rules dealing with suspended Branches.
Therefore are CWU HQ compliant within the present rules and procedures in respect of members from NI No1 wishing to take run for NEC Elections?
Are we an inclusive union or are some people within HQ practising forms of exclusion against members of an Irish Branch?
Over to you Tony it would seem and trust you can be more enlightening than Big Daz.
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Big Daz
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Granma wrote:Do you honestly believe that there are election procedures that can be implemented by CWU HQ in the unfortunate event of a Branch being suspended by HQ? I don't!
Nor do i believe that there is another set of rules dealing with suspended Branches.
Therefore are CWU HQ compliant within the present rules and procedures in respect of members from NI No1 wishing to take run for NEC Elections?
Are we an inclusive union or are some people within HQ practising forms of exclusion against members of an Irish Branch?
Over to you Tony it would seem and trust you can be more enlightening than Big Daz.
Im just a lowly delivery office IR/H&S rep, so can only think what steps i would take to get the info i require if io was in your situation.
I presume that you are going to make enquiries, rather than just speculate.
I think the rules what ever they may be would make a good topic for debate on RMC.
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wranglered
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Big Daz
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Its rules revision confrence this year as well, so if anybody would like to see some rule changes, now is your chance.
We have a notice in our office to tell mbrs who to contact if they have any issues they would like the branch to take to confrence.
http://www.cwu.org/default.asp?Step=4&pid=32
We have a notice in our office to tell mbrs who to contact if they have any issues they would like the branch to take to confrence.
http://www.cwu.org/default.asp?Step=4&pid=32
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Granma
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Rule 4 Members Entitlements
and Obligations
1. Members of the Union are entitled to:
4. Attend and take an active part in the Branch Annual General Meeting and all other appropriate membership meetings pertaining to their place of work;
5. Stand for Union office in accordance with the Rules and Branch Constitution;
I don’t suppose that CWU HQ are in the business of bringing themselves to book if they are to be found guilty of ignoring rules of the union in respect of members of NI No1 Branch participating in AGM and Elections. By suspending the Branch and failing to put adequate provision in place so that the above rules / entitlements are adhered to, it would seem that those who took this decision at HQ are guilty of both breaking the union’s rules and practising exclusion!
WHY?
and Obligations
1. Members of the Union are entitled to:
4. Attend and take an active part in the Branch Annual General Meeting and all other appropriate membership meetings pertaining to their place of work;
5. Stand for Union office in accordance with the Rules and Branch Constitution;
I don’t suppose that CWU HQ are in the business of bringing themselves to book if they are to be found guilty of ignoring rules of the union in respect of members of NI No1 Branch participating in AGM and Elections. By suspending the Branch and failing to put adequate provision in place so that the above rules / entitlements are adhered to, it would seem that those who took this decision at HQ are guilty of both breaking the union’s rules and practising exclusion!
WHY?
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Big Daz
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Credentials dont run out untill the end of march, might stay on for another year so i can make sure phase 3 and 4 flexibility are implemented properly and oversee the introduction of pegasus as we are a phase 2 office.wranglered wrote:thought you'd thrown the towel in as the IR rep big Daz?
Planner is due week 14 of the new financial year (mid june) to start the pegasus/georoute process.
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Big Daz
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Granma wrote:Rule 4 Members Entitlements
and Obligations
1. Members of the Union are entitled to:
4. Attend and take an active part in the Branch Annual General Meeting and all other appropriate membership meetings pertaining to their place of work;
5. Stand for Union office in accordance with the Rules and Branch Constitution;
I don’t suppose that CWU HQ are in the business of bringing themselves to book if they are to be found guilty of ignoring rules of the union in respect of members of NI No1 Branch participating in AGM and Elections. By suspending the Branch and failing to put adequate provision in place so that the above rules / entitlements are adhered to, it would seem that those who took this decision at HQ are guilty of both breaking the union’s rules and practising exclusion!
WHY?
Ask HQ and then post the answer on RMC.
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BELIAL
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Granma
- Posts: 19
- Joined: 29 Feb 2008, 17:37
Big Daz wrote:Granma wrote:Rule 4 Members Entitlements
and Obligations
1. Members of the Union are entitled to:
4. Attend and take an active part in the Branch Annual General Meeting and all other appropriate membership meetings pertaining to their place of work;
5. Stand for Union office in accordance with the Rules and Branch Constitution;
I don’t suppose that CWU HQ are in the business of bringing themselves to book if they are to be found guilty of ignoring rules of the union in respect of members of NI No1 Branch participating in AGM and Elections. By suspending the Branch and failing to put adequate provision in place so that the above rules / entitlements are adhered to, it would seem that those who took this decision at HQ are guilty of both breaking the union’s rules and practising exclusion!
WHY?
Ask HQ and then post the answer on RMC.
Shall do as you suggest Big Daz but don't hold your breath on a quick reply from HQ as i know from several comrades that those powers that be are extremly reluctant to answer any questions regarding the Branches suspension, apart from 1 or 2 notable exceptions. Of course i'll post any response om RMC should make for interesting reading, if indeed we are presented with answers at all.
Ps, message to CWU HQ - Respect My Branch and comply with union rules.......ALWAYS......You may suspend OUR BRANCH but you shall never suspend OUR RULES!
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Granma
- Posts: 19
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Here's the latest, seems someone from HQ must have been monitoring union room as a General Meeting of the N.I. No1 Branch is to take place tomorrow.Big Daz wrote:Granma wrote:Rule 4 Members Entitlements
and Obligations
1. Members of the Union are entitled to:
4. Attend and take an active part in the Branch Annual General Meeting and all other appropriate membership meetings pertaining to their place of work;
5. Stand for Union office in accordance with the Rules and Branch Constitution;
I don’t suppose that CWU HQ are in the business of bringing themselves to book if they are to be found guilty of ignoring rules of the union in respect of members of NI No1 Branch participating in AGM and Elections. By suspending the Branch and failing to put adequate provision in place so that the above rules / entitlements are adhered to, it would seem that those who took this decision at HQ are guilty of both breaking the union’s rules and practising exclusion!
WHY?
Ask HQ and then post the answer on RMC.
The Agenda reads Nominations to the NEC and motions to Annual Conference.
Posters advertising this went on the union notice boards Monday 3rd March and 4th March but were for reason dated 20th February.
The venue for the meeting as displayed only lately and when enquiries were made at these premises they stated that no one had made any booking.
Motions were known to have been submitted but none were displayed within the Branch workplaces 4 days prior to this meeting, hence no amendments to motions are possible.
When the Branch Administrator was asked about the numerous discrepancies and his suspension of an IR Election this week he replied that he would answer the questions tomorrow at the meeting but yet again failed to clarify where that meeting would be taking place dispite repeated requests for him to do so.
The General Meeting is now taking on farcical dimensions and no doubt Mr Administrator will have the local plods on standby in order to prevent himself from having to answer any difficult questions from any irate members of the N.I. No1 Branch, should any of the find the venue that is!!!!!!
Anyone out there have any idea where the N.I. No1 Branch Meeting is taking place, cause Mr Administrator is keeping it a closely guarded secret.
Updates to follow.
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marky
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there was a nomination from the suspended northern ireland no1 branch at a meeting today but sadly not enough people knew where it was or turned up so the administrator could not proceed with the meeting. this poor man will now not be able to stand in the nec elections this year.
oh well theres always next year.
.
im still having a

oh well theres always next year.
im still having a
rmld.....
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marky
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- Location: could be barred
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marky
- Posts: 402
- Joined: 18 May 2007, 23:41
- Gender: Male
- Location: could be barred
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marky
- Posts: 402
- Joined: 18 May 2007, 23:41
- Gender: Male
- Location: could be barred
Hello rat fans
10 March 2008
Date: 10th March 2008
Dear Colleagues
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
Assistant Secretary - Health, Safety & Environment
Assistant Secretary - Postal (Outdoor)
Assistant Secretary - Telecoms & Financial Secretary
National Executive Council 2008 - Postal Constituency Nominations
National Executive Council 2008 - O&A Constituency Nominations
T&FSE Industrial Executive 2008 - O&A Nominations
Operator and Ancillary Organisational and Occupational
Committee 2008 - Nominations
Nominations for the above positions closed at 14.00 on 10th March 2008 and published below is the list of accepted nominations for these National Representative Positions
Please note: that a list of the nominations for DGS (T), Assistant Secretary -
Equal Opportunities, PTS, Engineering and Clerical Constituency positions will be published at the close of the nomination acceptance period for these positions on
14th March 2008.
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
Dave Ward CWU Officers (Elected)
Assistant Secretary - Health, Safety & Environment
Dave Joyce CWU Officers (Elected)
Assistant Secretary - Postal (Outdoor)
Bob Gibson CWU Officers (Elected)
Assistant Secretary - Telecom & Financial Services
Colin O' Callaghan Capitol Branch (Elected)
* Please note that the full list of nominating branches for the above positions will be published in due course.
NEC - Postal Constituency
· Nominations for Chair of the Postal Constituency
Jane Loftus Merseyside Amal (Elected)
· Nominations for Vice Chair of the Postal Constituency
Peter Donaghy North/North West London (Elected)
· Nominations for NEC - Postal Constituency
Mark Baulch East London Postal
Phil Browne Newcastle Amal
Huw Davies London North Western C & C
John Farnan Eastern No 6
Mick Kavanagh Coventry Area
Pete Keenlyside Greater Manchester
Dennis Kilgariff South Central No 1
Carl Maden London South West Postal
Joe Malone Scotland No 5
Noel McClean Eastern No 5
Lesley McLean Romford Amal
Katrina Quirke South East Wales Amal
Davie Robertson Glasgow & Dist Amal
Sean Tait Kent Invicta
Ian Ward South East London Postal & Counter
Dave Warren South East No 5
here why is there a name missing... what about the man from the suspended northern ireland no1 branch.
oh silly me he never got on the slate...
NEC - O&A Constituency
· Nominations for Chair of the O&A Constituency
Carol Alcock Tyne & Wear Clerical (Elected)
Telecom & Financial Services Industrial Executive -
O&A Constituency Nominations
· Nominations for Vice Chair of the Operator & Ancillary Constituency
Tracy Fussey Lincolnshire (Elected)
· Nominations for Telecoms & Financial Services Industrial Executive -
Operator & Ancillary Constituency
Jean Knight Lincolnshire (Elected)
Operator & Ancillary Organisational & Occupational Committee -
Nominations
· Nominations for Operator & Ancillary Organisational & Occupational Committee
Cathy Jackman South Wales (Elected)
Trisha Martin Scotland No 1 (Elected)
Cathy Newall Scotland No 1 (Elected)
Thomas Queen Scotland No 1 (Elected)
10 March 2008
Date: 10th March 2008
Dear Colleagues
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
Assistant Secretary - Health, Safety & Environment
Assistant Secretary - Postal (Outdoor)
Assistant Secretary - Telecoms & Financial Secretary
National Executive Council 2008 - Postal Constituency Nominations
National Executive Council 2008 - O&A Constituency Nominations
T&FSE Industrial Executive 2008 - O&A Nominations
Operator and Ancillary Organisational and Occupational
Committee 2008 - Nominations
Nominations for the above positions closed at 14.00 on 10th March 2008 and published below is the list of accepted nominations for these National Representative Positions
Please note: that a list of the nominations for DGS (T), Assistant Secretary -
Equal Opportunities, PTS, Engineering and Clerical Constituency positions will be published at the close of the nomination acceptance period for these positions on
14th March 2008.
Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
Dave Ward CWU Officers (Elected)
Assistant Secretary - Health, Safety & Environment
Dave Joyce CWU Officers (Elected)
Assistant Secretary - Postal (Outdoor)
Bob Gibson CWU Officers (Elected)
Assistant Secretary - Telecom & Financial Services
Colin O' Callaghan Capitol Branch (Elected)
* Please note that the full list of nominating branches for the above positions will be published in due course.
NEC - Postal Constituency
· Nominations for Chair of the Postal Constituency
Jane Loftus Merseyside Amal (Elected)
· Nominations for Vice Chair of the Postal Constituency
Peter Donaghy North/North West London (Elected)
· Nominations for NEC - Postal Constituency
Mark Baulch East London Postal
Phil Browne Newcastle Amal
Huw Davies London North Western C & C
John Farnan Eastern No 6
Mick Kavanagh Coventry Area
Pete Keenlyside Greater Manchester
Dennis Kilgariff South Central No 1
Carl Maden London South West Postal
Joe Malone Scotland No 5
Noel McClean Eastern No 5
Lesley McLean Romford Amal
Katrina Quirke South East Wales Amal
Davie Robertson Glasgow & Dist Amal
Sean Tait Kent Invicta
Ian Ward South East London Postal & Counter
Dave Warren South East No 5
here why is there a name missing... what about the man from the suspended northern ireland no1 branch.
oh silly me he never got on the slate...
NEC - O&A Constituency
· Nominations for Chair of the O&A Constituency
Carol Alcock Tyne & Wear Clerical (Elected)
Telecom & Financial Services Industrial Executive -
O&A Constituency Nominations
· Nominations for Vice Chair of the Operator & Ancillary Constituency
Tracy Fussey Lincolnshire (Elected)
· Nominations for Telecoms & Financial Services Industrial Executive -
Operator & Ancillary Constituency
Jean Knight Lincolnshire (Elected)
Operator & Ancillary Organisational & Occupational Committee -
Nominations
· Nominations for Operator & Ancillary Organisational & Occupational Committee
Cathy Jackman South Wales (Elected)
Trisha Martin Scotland No 1 (Elected)
Cathy Newall Scotland No 1 (Elected)
Thomas Queen Scotland No 1 (Elected)
rmld.....