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Changing start and finish time

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rambo1
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Changing start and finish time

Post by rambo1 »

Why are people so hung up on this one? How many of us that have been here 20+yrs start and finish at the same time now as we used to when we started? I for one now start on average 3 hrs later now than I used to then. Used to be finished by 10.30 on a Saturday, now its 3.30pm. we have all changed over the yrs, why such a pushback on more? Have the Union actually surveyed their member's views on this? Are people seriously thinking they can walk into another job with exactly the same start and finish time as they have now? Or a supermarket job with no Sunday working?
taurus88
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by taurus88 »

I don’t mind starting later, personally. But the later and later finishes on a Saturday mean that your already truncated weekend is getting shorter and shorter. The upside is that those later starts in the week generally lead to me getting a better night’s rest, and having more leisure opportunities.
Acca Dacca
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by Acca Dacca »

Simple for me

An earlier finish than the typical 9-5 as well as our hourly rate being a good bit better than minimum wage was the counterbalance to doing such a physical job every day. It was one of the big perks.

Now they want us to be out walking for longer, later and for a wage that minimum wage has almost caught up with

There will be few “perks of the job” left

Royal Mail will struggle to retain and recruit if they go down the path they want. That’s a guarantee.
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49erman
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by 49erman »

What you’re forgetting about are the thousands who are in this job because they have childcare issues……I.E. picking up from school etc. let’s not just think about our own personal situations all the time. There are a lot of worried mums and dads out there wondering if they’ll be able to stay in a job that suited their circumstances.
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by bowie »

Correct people need to pick there children up 👍👍👍👍✊✊✊✊
simon goodman
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by simon goodman »

Having to pay for extra childcare; before and after school for 2 kids would add around £180 a week to our bills. I know for others that would be more. Simply cannot afford that…
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by Kenfandango »

I started the job specifically because the ad said I would finish at 2, and also claimed to be "family friendly " I have 2 kids who are too young to walk home alone, and my wife works 11am-8pm so it felt like a good way to swerve the extortionate after school club fees. I can just about get to the school on Mondays when out finish time is close to 3, but any further back would cost me £24 a day
nuisance
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by nuisance »

I think they've pushed it back as far as they can up to the point where it becomes a job without "early start, early finishes". If they push it back any further it becomes the same as many other jobs, it presents afternoon childcare issues, at the moment it leaves some working day times free for appointments (3pm - 5.30pm), etc.

I did the job back when everyone, even part timers, started at about 5 - 5.30am and I'm honestly glad that's been pushed back a bit along with the price of now finishing early afternoon, but I don't want a job working into the evenings.
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by DirtyHarry »

Those bastards lost me, the moment they made our Saturdays just another normal working day.
Starting later.
Finishing later.
Taking out mailsort.
Taking out 2nd class undated.
When I started in Royal Mail, latest I'd finish on a Saturday would be 11.00a.m.
Now it's 2/2.30pm.
And all with that absorbtion shite thrown in for good measure.
Utterly, utterly, shite, fooking, company, now.
derkhead
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by derkhead »

The trouble with later finishes is working in the dark in winter, and working through the hottest time of the day during summer.
Kenfandango
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by Kenfandango »

derkhead wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 14:55
The trouble with later finishes is working in the dark in winter, and working through the hottest time of the day during summer.
Yeah this as well, especially as when it was 35-40c our CEO was all over workplace moaning about us slowing down, and the union negotiated a (frankly unmanageable) 37c as too hot to work in
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by stevejm »

bowie wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 10:49
Correct people need to pick there children up 👍👍👍👍✊✊✊✊
I was out of the country for many many years. Sometime between leaving and coming back there was a massive change whereby it became mandatory to drop off/pick up kids from school. I've never quite understood this. Obviously the reason is to prevent something dreadful happening but what is all this new danger that exists now and yet didn't bother parents in the sixties seventies and eighties? The link below throws some light on it

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/w ... ago-634486
stevejm
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by stevejm »

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Kenfandango wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 15:05
derkhead wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 14:55
The trouble with later finishes is working in the dark in winter, and working through the hottest time of the day during summer.
Yeah this as well, especially as when it was 35-40c our CEO was all over workplace moaning about us slowing down, and the union negotiated a (frankly unmanageable) 37c as too hot to work in

I remember that album by Third World called 96F In The Shade - when I saw the album cover in the record shop I thought "bloody hell, how hot is that? Unbelievably hot!" Of course, it is now less at 35.5c than we are expected to work in :crazy:
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by Foxel »

stevejm wrote:
01 Apr 2023, 16:50

I was out of the country for many many years. Sometime between leaving and coming back there was a massive change whereby it became mandatory to drop off/pick up kids from school. I've never quite understood this. Obviously the reason is to prevent something dreadful happening but what is all this new danger that exists now and yet didn't bother parents in the sixties seventies and eighties? The link below throws some light on it

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/w ... ago-634486
Decades of child abuse.
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Re: Changing start and finish time

Post by k979aaa »

It is not the change in times but the pace and way and which it will be introduced this has to be on a step by step process but if we neglect the before 9AM times our competitors will relish it. And what of the 1PM time these questions have not been asked nor answered but the question is have they thought about this or is the whole company being run with assholes who don't think about anything but their own renumeration!