Have no doubt any appointed administrator will instigate an immediate major cost cutting frenzy from all parts of the business. And considering Royal Mails greatest cost negative is in its wage bill, you do not need to be Einstein to work that one out.
But I would imagine that will be senior executives and management before actual postie's since the former earn a lot more; also if the government are insisting on the USO being maintained, they will need frontline staff .. Also, any appointed administrator will get to see the books, warts and all - the truth may finally come out!
They can't cut any more away from delivery than they already have. Any kind of actual scrutiny would reveal the thousands of useless admin and line manager jobs. The ones that do almost nothing and have some ridiculously ambiguous job title. The five mail centre managers standing with their arms crossed talking about football in the middle of an aisle while telling one single actual worker in a mail centre packet bullring to sort faster.
Anyone in delivery knows just how cut to the bone we are.
Walks fail daily , if you have a day off your delivery doesn’t go out and same for annual leave .
Customers not getting anything like the service they’re paying for.
You simply don’t generate business if you’re not delivering the product you’re offering.
Be in absolutely no doubt where that blame lies ( Thompson and co ) because the plans they’ve had have put us in this position.
To add to that , we currently have 9 managers at a cost of around a quarter of a million a year when 2-3 max would be sufficient but it’s us posties that are having up to 3 hours put on our deliveries that are already unachievable.
We are all basically being blackmailed the company is not insolvent especially when GLS is put into the financial results. I’ve got no stomach to carry on striking but be aware if the blackmail works once it will work again and again, until the job becomes as awful as it would have been in administration!
The five mail centre managers standing with their arms crossed talking about football in the middle of an aisle while telling one single actual worker in a mail centre packet bullring to sort faster.
Many firms have probably replaced line managers with "Team Leaders" who do the work of an ordinary staff member but get some sort of leadership allowance. Why doesn't RM do the same? In DOs once everyone has gone out you only need 1 manager to watch over things and manage any issues. In MCs they could do away with 1 or 2 managers per shift. Some sections effectively run themselves
Can you point me to where I can see the deal.
Cheers.
It’s the same one the CWU have been putting you off. Maybe it’s worse now. But better than nothing.
there is no chance of that deal, or any deal (IMO) now. RM get what they want with insolvency. It makes no sense for them to agree to increasing pay at this point.
Maybe if the CWU took its demands with suspended and dismissed reps out of the talks who have their own disciplinary process, agreement on the actual cause of the complaint and dispute can be made. It is no more than Russian roulette now on the very survival and peoples livelihoods
More doom , gloom and despondency. Say something positive that is based in fact not just your barrack room lawyers opinion.
There is literally nothing positive to discuss right now, unless you care to remove your head from the sand and inform us otherwise?
If you can't say anything positive then say nothing . The situation is bad but adding yours and one or two others barrack room lawyers opinions won't improve it. Support the majority of your colleagues and don't keep undermining everything the CWU does. You are not in the talks so don't second guess the outcome.
Maybe if the CWU took its demands with suspended and dismissed reps out of the talks who have their own disciplinary process, agreement on the actual cause of the complaint and dispute can be made. It is no more than Russian roulette now on the very survival and peoples livelihoods
More doom , gloom and despondency. Say something positive that is based in fact not just your barrack room lawyers opinion.
There is literally nothing positive to discuss right now, unless you care to remove your head from the sand and inform us otherwise?
If you can't say anything positive then say nothing . The situation is bad but adding yours and one or two others barrack room lawyers opinions won't improve it. Support the majority of your colleagues and don't keep undermining everything the CWU does. You are not in the talks so don't second guess the outcome.
Nonsense. This is a discussion board. If you don’t like the comments being posted, you are free to block them or leave. Don’t tell people what they can and cannot post.
Maybe if the CWU took its demands with suspended and dismissed reps out of the talks who have their own disciplinary process, agreement on the actual cause of the complaint and dispute can be made. It is no more than Russian roulette now on the very survival and peoples livelihoods
More doom , gloom and despondency. Say something positive that is based in fact not just your barrack room lawyers opinion.
There is literally nothing positive to discuss right now, unless you care to remove your head from the sand and inform us otherwise?
If you can't say anything positive then say nothing . The situation is bad but adding yours and one or two others barrack room lawyers opinions won't improve it. Support the majority of your colleagues and don't keep undermining everything the CWU does. You are not in the talks so don't second guess the outcome.
Nonsense. This is a discussion board. If you don’t like the comments being posted, you are free to block them or leave. Don’t tell people what they can and cannot post.
You don't post discussion points. They are your opinions which are usually all negative and designed to undermine. If I felt like you I would join the union, become a rep, work my way up then you can have some influence on what the CWU does. Don't just moan from the sidelines.
Maybe if the CWU took its demands with suspended and dismissed reps out of the talks who have their own disciplinary process, agreement on the actual cause of the complaint and dispute can be made. It is no more than Russian roulette now on the very survival and peoples livelihoods
More doom , gloom and despondency. Say something positive that is based in fact not just your barrack room lawyers opinion.
There is literally nothing positive to discuss right now, unless you care to remove your head from the sand and inform us otherwise?
If you can't say anything positive then say nothing . The situation is bad but adding yours and one or two others barrack room lawyers opinions won't improve it. Support the majority of your colleagues and don't keep undermining everything the CWU does. You are not in the talks so don't second guess the outcome.
Nonsense. This is a discussion board. If you don’t like the comments being posted, you are free to block them or leave. Don’t tell people what they can and cannot post.
You don't post discussion points. They are your opinions which are usually all negative and designed to undermine. If I felt like you I would join the union, become a rep, work my way up then you can have some influence on what the CWU does. Don't just moan from the sidelines.
As opposed to your positive contributions I suppose? As I said before, feel free to offer up some hope for those of us negative types who see little to no prospect of a positive outcome for this dispute. Until then, stop back seat moderating.
Anyone else having starry eyes over the government coming in for the save need to get real and knock this fantasy of Royal Mail going back to being a national service. Really? This same government in the last decade has sold us off and not to mention the s**t they are pulling on the public services making it even harder for them to strike They will wash their hands with us faster than we can blink to the highest bidder on the cheap and that will be it.
Can you point me to where I can see the deal.
Cheers.
It’s the same one the CWU have been putting you off. Maybe it’s worse now. But better than nothing.
there is no chance of that deal, or any deal (IMO) now. RM get what they want with insolvency. It makes no sense for them to agree to increasing pay at this point.
So what are the CWU fighting for now? If the writing is on the wall then what can they do?
Anyone else having starry eyes over the government coming in for the save need to get real and knock this fantasy of Royal Mail going back to being a national service. Really? This same government in the last decade has sold us off and not to mention the s**t they are pulling on the public services making it even harder for them to strike They will wash their hands with us faster than we can blink to the highest bidder on the cheap and that will be it.
The government will have no choice as no firm will buy the letters side. The alternative would be people having to spend £5+ for each single last letter that they send
Nobody will buy the letters side with the USO obligation therefor we will be in all intents and purposes re-nationalised.
The government administrators will then be under pressure to deliver. It could be a better result than it remaining with the current leadership.
I would say this is either gross incompetence or deliberate policy to reach such an outcome. You decide..
Have no doubt any appointed administrator will instigate an immediate major cost cutting frenzy from all parts of the business. And considering Royal Mails greatest cost negative is in its wage bill, you do not need to be Einstein to work that one out.
But I would imagine that will be senior executives and management before actual postie's since the former earn a lot more; also if the government are insisting on the USO being maintained, they will need frontline staff .. Also, any appointed administrator will get to see the books, warts and all - the truth may finally come out!
They can't cut any more away from delivery than they already have. Any kind of actual scrutiny would reveal the thousands of useless admin and line manager jobs. The ones that do almost nothing and have some ridiculously ambiguous job title. The five mail centre managers standing with their arms crossed talking about football in the middle of an aisle while telling one single actual worker in a mail centre packet bullring to sort faster.
I haven't been inside a mail centre for 20 years but it sounds like nothing has changed.
They will wash their hands with us faster than we can blink to the highest bidder on the cheap and that will be it.