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RMCtv : Message from Ricky McAulay: CWU talks update

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PARCELHORSE wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 17:29
Parasitic greedy corrupt lying Scottish c***. Congratulations to you Thompson Williams and all the other incompetent shites for ruining a once great National asset. After the humiliation you three stooges suffered at the select committee hearing don't you think you should all resign and f**k off to asset strip and ruin another successful company. 🤢
Whats the fact hes scottish got to do with him being a c*** Dont start that shite mate...Theres a load of scotts irish english and welsh people fu**ing up this company.
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ANDREW CROCOMBE wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 19:56
All RM had to do was employ more parcel van drivers. You are losing £1 million a day compared to the COVID riches - nothing else. You've had 10 years to make the duties workable, but continued to pay overtime, obviously a cheaper option. You gave away too much to the shareholder leeches, bleeding us dry. Stop whining and do something, why aren't the packets already walk sorted ? Why can't RM service their own vans ? Pathetic. 15 duties gone in our office, some good workers walked away,that's how to look after your staff. 👏
Well Keith Williams, as well as being Chairman of Royal Mail, also has time to be chairman of Halfords (ridiculously rewarded for both btw) Part of his cunning plan was to get Halfords to service our vans!
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postieblueshirt wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 20:44
PARCELHORSE wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 17:29
Parasitic greedy corrupt lying Scottish c***. Congratulations to you Thompson Williams and all the other incompetent shites for ruining a once great National asset. After the humiliation you three stooges suffered at the select committee hearing don't you think you should all resign and f**k off to asset strip and ruin another successful company. 🤢
Whats the fact hes scottish got to do with him being a c*** Dont start that shite mate...Theres a load of scotts irish english and welsh people fu**ing up this company.
Well after all the shite this prat from england has caused us all come back Rico Back and he's German this is not about nationalities but how corrupt or incompetent they are I for one have never seen this level of incompetence in any company in the UK!
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Maybe management shouldn’t have handled over roughly £600million to shareholders if we’re that far financially in trouble. Management have been so incompetent it’s boarding on criminal
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walthmstowman wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 21:03
Maybe management shouldn’t have handled over roughly £600million to shareholders if we’re that far financially in trouble. Management have been so incompetent it’s boarding on criminal
Exactly
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PARCELHORSE wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 17:29
Parasitic greedy corrupt lying Scottish c***. Congratulations to you Thompson Williams and all the other incompetent shites for ruining a once great National asset. After the humiliation you three stooges suffered at the select committee hearing don't you think you should all resign and f**k off to asset strip and ruin another successful company. 🤢
What’s his nationality got to do with it? He’s a prat like they are all but that’s offensive using his nationality in a discretionary way
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walthmstowman wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 21:03
Maybe management shouldn’t have handled over roughly £600million to shareholders if we’re that far financially in trouble. Management have been so incompetent it’s boarding on criminal


They think completely different than us. If someone is struggling, we would help, they'd take advantage.
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rambo1 wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 09:19
Ricky, if you read this. Here's my take on the situation. It's obvious to me the company has no money. The vans are shite, can't get uniform . What money you have got, you're spending on fancy parcel sorting super hubs......which you are coming to reason, is going to be wasted because parcel traffic is dropping off so much. We ain't in covid times any more.
Let's face it, we know, the coms know and (hopefully) you know that the revisions you are proposing/ pushing through/ already implemented, do not and probably never would, work. Even with the fairy light traffic we have at the moment. They do not work. I assume you are doing this to strengthen your case for relaxing the ball and chain, sorry, the USO?
You are going to present the case to the government, that under our current business model, we can no longer fulfill the USO and will therefore be filling for administration. The government will not want to have to take up the running of royal mail but also will not want to be seen to be abandoning the 500yr old 'public service ' with elections coming soon.
The public doesn't by and large, give two hoots if they get mail 6 days or 5 or even 3 days a week.
So in summary, you want to scrap the USO, totally remodel our broken business model, to move to 7days for parcels as long as its premium service like SD or tracked, and deliver the rest 3 days a week, Mon, Wednesday and Friday? For example. You have been testing this model for a few yrs now, starting with COVID and I'm sure that the figures came back positive as I myself know, delivering 2 days mail takes about an hr more, not 8 hrs so you must have had a big gain there.
You have tested how many of us would like to leave the business via VR, so you can show the CWU the numbers to get them on board.
Personally if this new no USO business model would be profitable I would fully back the Union helping to ease the required numbers of workers out of the business, I'm sure you'd get your 30-40,000 out for a decent one off VR package and be able to reward the ones that remain as the business would be profitable again.
A shift pattern could be 4 day weeks 9hr weekdays then 8hr alternate sat/Sunday on pks. for FT or just have all contracts at 35hrs, the PT always say they want more contract hrs.
It would be nice if all parties could be honest and open with us all though.

But what do I know, I'm just a postie with 20+yrs experience and keen interest in business and investing.

But what do I know
Totally agree with this, well said.
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Well if Donald J Trump is charged with hush money "allegedly" of $130,000 or £100,000 back in the day 2009 ie before and he could be the POTUS. Why can not trials of people involved and perpetrated in the name of mass profits not beholden to the justice for their wanton waste of £37 billion and the destruction of a 500 year old public service. To service himself and his wealth at the behest of his backers while the whole service is gone and workers are bullied into leaving or working for nothing! IF FOR NOTHING ELSE THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE HELD TO ACCOUNT AND DELT WITH BY THE LAWS OF THE LANDS THAT THEY ABUSE!
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sweepster70 wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 16:04
guardianangel wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 16:01
norm wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 15:53
guardianangel wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 15:40
I doubt the Czech billionaire will like liquidation and losing his 20 odd %
Is that even the case?

GLS doesn't suddenly fail because RM hand back the USO to the government.

If IDS don't have the liability of RM on their books surely that boosts the share price.
IDS is Royal Mail




Royal Mail are part of the IDS Group.
Exactly
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IDS is a shell company from ROYAL MAIL GROUP and is such on the LSE it is not an international distributional service, think of the only fools and horses with del saying this time next week we will be millionaires. Trotters independent trading comes to mind and we have a right pinoclarder running it into the ground!
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walthmstowman wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 21:03
Maybe management shouldn’t have handled over roughly £600million to shareholders if we’re that far financially in trouble. Management have been so incompetent it’s boarding on criminal
Unless you can invent a time-machine and travel back to 2020 this doesn’t really help us settle the current dispute. Bonuses were handed out when the company was flooded with money and profits. You can argue that it was a ridiculous decision not to hold money in reserve for the declining parcel volumes we are facing, and also it is fair to argue that buying a fleet of useless electric vehicles was a catastrophically bad decision, but you can’t un-ring that bell either.
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LouBarlow wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:04
walthmstowman wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 21:03
Maybe management shouldn’t have handled over roughly £600million to shareholders if we’re that far financially in trouble. Management have been so incompetent it’s boarding on criminal
Unless you can invent a time-machine and travel back to 2020 this doesn’t really help us settle the current dispute. Bonuses were handed out when the company was flooded with money and profits. You can argue that it was a ridiculous decision not to hold money in reserve for the declining parcel volumes we are facing, and also it is fair to argue that buying a fleet of useless electric vehicles was a catastrophically bad decision, but you can’t un-ring that bell either.
The past dictates the future. With the same people at the top the reckless actions will continue with one difference - they will get worse. There is a deliberate agenda underlying everything RM management do. It's co-ordinated and ruthless. What that agenda is and why it is happening is not clear - YET!! The CWU are now in the middle of it and caught between trying to represent their members whilst acknowledging the financial issues the company face, which are of it's own making. The decisions you mention above are the two most expensive. Neither of them were contractual and stripped the company of working capital to make agreed, planned, sensible changes and give the workers a decent rise to implement them. Now we have neither. You're right in saying we are where we are, but action now is needed to remove the people at the top. If that is strike action then so be it.
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timbo1234 wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:57
LouBarlow wrote:
26 Mar 2023, 08:04
walthmstowman wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 21:03
Maybe management shouldn’t have handled over roughly £600million to shareholders if we’re that far financially in trouble. Management have been so incompetent it’s boarding on criminal
Unless you can invent a time-machine and travel back to 2020 this doesn’t really help us settle the current dispute. Bonuses were handed out when the company was flooded with money and profits. You can argue that it was a ridiculous decision not to hold money in reserve for the declining parcel volumes we are facing, and also it is fair to argue that buying a fleet of useless electric vehicles was a catastrophically bad decision, but you can’t un-ring that bell either.
The past dictates the future. With the same people at the top the reckless actions will continue with one difference - they will get worse. There is a deliberate agenda underlying everything RM management do. It's co-ordinated and ruthless. What that agenda is and why it is happening is not clear - YET!! The CWU are now in the middle of it and caught between trying to represent their members whilst acknowledging the financial issues the company face, which are of it's own making. The decisions you mention above are the two most expensive. Neither of them were contractual and stripped the company of working capital to make agreed, planned, sensible changes and give the workers a decent rise to implement them. Now we have neither. You're right in saying we are where we are, but action now is needed to remove the people at the top. If that is strike action then so be it.
While I completely agree that management incompetence is why we are in this mess, the only way you force the clown trio out, is by entering administration, as it is clear they are not going to leave of their own volition. Striking will ensure this, and remove any of the decreasing likelihood of a deal being reached.
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k979aaa wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 21:13
walthmstowman wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 21:03
Maybe management shouldn’t have handled over roughly £600million to shareholders if we’re that far financially in trouble. Management have been so incompetent it’s boarding on criminal
Exactly
It is criminal,ofcom should fine them a million pound a day for everyday they fail and make them go bankrupt then the government buy it back for a quid and start generating some profit for the country without shareholders emptying the bank.