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[Wullie10]

Hope I’m wrong but Dave looked like a beaten man, in some ways desperate.

Nothing new there then.

[redlen]

Agree, there is no appetite for a strike considering the money lost already and for nothing

It all seems pre-planned to me in dragging this out until April 1st

[post6675]

Some of the comments on Twitter seem to suggest they're more bothered about getting their reps back than sorting out a deal?

Didn't they say they are having independant reviews done? if the reps have done something wrong get them gone. They are not above the rules

[ANDREW CROCOMBE]

1) every D/O has had staff leave, and the new duties are unworkable.
2) the uso fails on a daily basis, unless these duties are reversed then a future of complete failure.
3) If they want the company to go bust, just bloody do it, announce any redundancy packages and get on with it.
4) a restart with the company split up, parcels v letters, conditions Amazon like, who the f**k wants that shite. You will be massively understaffed and will fail.
5) sick to death of all the messing around, don't think the management will budge an inch now.
6) you strike to reach an agreement usually, the fact this hasn't worked tells you something about the campaign.

[chrisj]

Like I have said all along the CWU are the problem! And they have been unreasonable in negotiations and gave treated their members like children; in fact, with contempt!

Where is the details?

Why announce strikes when the talks are still going? You do that when they have broken down but not as a threat or spite - it did not work from r Christmas, why would it work now.

I think my hunch is good to think Martin Walsh is not at one with people like Dave Ward.

Are these guys trying to take down Royal Mail and our jobs and terms with it? Zero-sum game!

[needadvice]

Some of the comments on Twitter seem to suggest they're more bothered about getting their reps back than sorting out a deal?

Didn't they say they are having independant reviews done? if the reps have done something wrong get them gone. They are not above the rules

RM are using the reps as an excuse to drag the talks out. How difficult can it be, they either acted out of line or they didn't lol

[norris9]

The timing of this is all very odd coinciding with the end of the financial year.

I have been curious for a while as to why all Royal Mail jobs that I've seen advertised had an end date close to the end of March.

Been wondering if something big is going to happen around this time.

[Acca Dacca]

Like I have said all along the CWU are the problem! And they have been unreasonable in negotiations and gave treated their members like children; in fact, with contempt!

Where is the details?

Why announce strikes when the talks are still going? You do that when they have broken down but not as a threat or spite - it did not work from r Christmas, why would it work now.

I think my hunch is good to think Martin Walsh is not at one with people like Dave Ward.

Are these guys trying to take down Royal Mail and our jobs and terms with it? Zero-sum game!

If you dont know the details then how can you say they have been unreasonable in negotations?

Also they havent called any strikes yet - if talks havent concluded with an agreement by next week then they have said they will - and so they wont be called whilst talks are still going, clearly the talks will have broken down without agreement by that point if strikes are called.

[TopperGas]

Like I have said all along the CWU are the problem! And they have been unreasonable in negotiations and gave treated their members like children; in fact, with contempt!

Where is the details?

Why announce strikes when the talks are still going? You do that when they have broken down but not as a threat or spite - it did not work from r Christmas, why would it work now.

I think my hunch is good to think Martin Walsh is not at one with people like Dave Ward.

Are these guys trying to take down Royal Mail and our jobs and terms with it? Zero-sum game!

If you dont know the details then how can you say they have been unreasonable in negotations?

Also they havent called any strikes yet - if talks havent concluded with an agreement by next week then they have said they will - and so they wont be called whilst talks are still going, clearly the talks will have broken down without agreement by that point if strikes are called.

Why not just tell us what RM are proposing instead of using scare tactics?

Plus why is Martin Walsh suggesting there's a real danger of Administration but dopey Dave suggesting he's calling more strikes, surely if what MW says is correct the last thing anybody needs is more IA?

[TopperGas]

The timing of this is all very odd coinciding with the end of the financial year.

I have been curious for a while as to why all Royal Mail jobs that I've seen advertised had an end date close to the end of March.

Been wondering if something big is going to happen around this time.

Isn't that just standard practice at RM?

[TopperGas]

Some of the comments on Twitter seem to suggest they're more bothered about getting their reps back than sorting out a deal?

Didn't they say they are having independant reviews done? if the reps have done something wrong get them gone. They are not above the rules

RM are using the reps as an excuse to drag the talks out. How difficult can it be, they either acted out of line or they didn't lol

Pretty certain the reps wasn't part of the recent IA ballot. If they've been calling fellow workers "scans" and misusing social media etc then they really only have themselves to blame.

[chickenwittle]

Like I have said all along the CWU are the problem! And they have been unreasonable in negotiations and gave treated their members like children; in fact, with contempt!

Where is the details?

Why announce strikes when the talks are still going? You do that when they have broken down but not as a threat or spite - it did not work from r Christmas, why would it work now.

I think my hunch is good to think Martin Walsh is not at one with people like Dave Ward.

Are these guys trying to take down Royal Mail and our jobs and terms with it? Zero-sum game!

Clueless stuff like this helps nobody.

[chickenwittle]

Some of the comments on Twitter seem to suggest they're more bothered about getting their reps back than sorting out a deal?

Didn't they say they are having independant reviews done? if the reps have done something wrong get them gone. They are not above the rules

RM are using the reps as an excuse to drag the talks out. How difficult can it be, they either acted out of line or they didn't lol

Pretty certain the reps wasn't part of the recent IA ballot. If they've been calling fellow workers "scans" and misusing social media etc then they really only have themselves to blame.

Which the union have previously acknowledged, I doubt very much a few suspended rogue reps is the issue.

[Acca Dacca]

Like I have said all along the CWU are the problem! And they have been unreasonable in negotiations and gave treated their members like children; in fact, with contempt!

Where is the details?

Why announce strikes when the talks are still going? You do that when they have broken down but not as a threat or spite - it did not work from r Christmas, why would it work now.

I think my hunch is good to think Martin Walsh is not at one with people like Dave Ward.

Are these guys trying to take down Royal Mail and our jobs and terms with it? Zero-sum game!

If you dont know the details then how can you say they have been unreasonable in negotations?

Also they havent called any strikes yet - if talks havent concluded with an agreement by next week then they have said they will - and so they wont be called whilst talks are still going, clearly the talks will have broken down without agreement by that point if strikes are called.

Why not just tell us what RM are proposing instead of using scare tactics?

Plus why is Martin Walsh suggesting there's a real danger of Administration but dopey Dave suggesting he's calling more strikes, surely if what MW says is correct the last thing anybody needs is more IA?

I agree with all of that

Thats unrelated to what chris has said though

[CHUCKYPIG]

Why pussyfoot over the weekend, sounds of desperation to me and yet more kicking the can down the road. More Rabbit than Sainsburys.

The CWU should have given two weeks notice for strike action today.
Does not mean it will happen

That would have concentrated the minds of Royal Mail
Seems there is more to this dispute than we are being told

Agree. If no agreement by now the CWU needs to call the strike dates now not piss about yet more