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What's being forced through where you are?
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sindba
- Posts: 1454
- Joined: 05 Feb 2012, 20:27
- Gender: Male
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
Just shed loads of lapsing at the moment. No mention of revisions or shift / duty changes or anything. Yet.
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calsae
- Posts: 95
- Joined: 02 Jul 2013, 21:50
- Gender: Male
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
We’ve been told no more 4 days a week or 9 day fortnights. Not sure if you refuse to change as it affects life balances do they just sack you. Been on these shifts for 10yearsClappedoutpostie wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 15:55Are they going with the 1 in 6 Saturdays duty pattern across the country. No more 9 day fortnights, Wally weeks, 4 day weeks. What’s been said by management in your office?
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SMS1969
- Posts: 1017
- Joined: 28 Jun 2021, 11:36
- Gender: Male
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
Lapsing and duty holders ( mainly non drivers ) being moved off a walk that’s been chosen for lapsing. Driver takes other side and a loop ( or 2 in my case-small loops though) from the lapsing. At least I’m on my own 
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toonshola
- Posts: 915
- Joined: 29 Jul 2011, 16:31
- Gender: Male
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
I would gladly accept more workload if it meant working on my own. Absolutely detest van share with a passion and all the issues it brings.
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guardianangel
- Posts: 1845
- Joined: 21 Feb 2020, 19:40
- Gender: Male
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
Are the union fighting this or just letting it happen,there is an office in our sector on the 9 day fortnight and they are changing them back to 1 in 4 and the union are doing nothing there,we do need some clarification even if the union come out and say there is nothing they can do,they need to start helping a bit.calsae wrote: ↑26 Jan 2023, 16:54We’ve been told no more 4 days a week or 9 day fortnights. Not sure if you refuse to change as it affects life balances do they just sack you. Been on these shifts for 10yearsClappedoutpostie wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 15:55Are they going with the 1 in 6 Saturdays duty pattern across the country. No more 9 day fortnights, Wally weeks, 4 day weeks. What’s been said by management in your office?![]()
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SpacePhoenix
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 12163
- Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
- Gender: Male
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
Have they taken out the same % of duties in all DOs?
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General Mannerheim
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 2299
- Joined: 14 Dec 2007, 13:10
- Gender: Male
- Location: Stalag 17
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
Most office they want to go to 1 in 6 Saturdays off.guardianangel wrote: ↑26 Jan 2023, 17:24Are the union fighting this or just letting it happen,there is an office in our sector on the 9 day fortnight and they are changing them back to 1 in 4 and the union are doing nothing there,we do need some clarification even if the union come out and say there is nothing they can do,they need to start helping a bit.calsae wrote: ↑26 Jan 2023, 16:54We’ve been told no more 4 days a week or 9 day fortnights. Not sure if you refuse to change as it affects life balances do they just sack you. Been on these shifts for 10yearsClappedoutpostie wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 15:55Are they going with the 1 in 6 Saturdays duty pattern across the country. No more 9 day fortnights, Wally weeks, 4 day weeks. What’s been said by management in your office?![]()
Royal Mail managers.....about as popular as a t.urd in a swimming pool!
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
The DDA/Equality Act demands action,NOT words......adjustments NOT Occupational Health referrals.Case No:2505901/09
Royal Mail is an Equal Opportunities Employer..It discriminates against everybody.
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poolcued
- Posts: 42
- Joined: 02 Oct 2016, 17:06
- Gender: Male
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
So the people that are displaced by walks disappearing become reserves? How does that work exactly? In our area of 40 plus walks, they're losing over a quarter. That's a lot of reserves.
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Zicomurphy
- Posts: 578
- Joined: 24 Oct 2014, 06:40
- Gender: Male
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
I’ve done 33 years and I am expecting to be in the same situation as you. I know my duty is going along with over 20 others. I’m sure under previous agreements the changes should trigger a full repick but previous agreements seem to mean nothing anymore. Quite expecting to be back RTI when it’s all implemented.voodou7628 wrote: ↑26 Jan 2023, 10:41Just been told I've lost my duty as its going part time there is no duty for me in the job 25 years I've I've also lost my rotating day off and will become a reserve a new start has been given my duty and rotate and I've time traveled back to 1998 when I first started.
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sam63
- Posts: 63
- Joined: 19 Nov 2022, 19:13
- Gender: Male
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
Revision in our MC being forced In a week on Monday, removal of 20 FT duties which is 30% of total, 18 supposed VR’s (2 duties were vacant), too date none have been offered VR, rumours of only 6 VR’s maybe offered on wk 1 of financial year.
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stevejm
- Posts: 495
- Joined: 09 Dec 2017, 16:16
- Gender: Male
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
but their actions mean that everyone in the d.o has work added to their walksSpacePhoenix wrote: ↑26 Jan 2023, 06:47They're just a load of numpties who want more work added to their walks
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calsae
- Posts: 95
- Joined: 02 Jul 2013, 21:50
- Gender: Male
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
Union said they are not involved so there’s no re pick. No duty’s except 5 day ft or 5 day pt. The yes vote will be announced after all the changes are in including later startsguardianangel wrote: ↑26 Jan 2023, 17:24Are the union fighting this or just letting it happen,there is an office in our sector on the 9 day fortnight and they are changing them back to 1 in 4 and the union are doing nothing there,we do need some clarification even if the union come out and say there is nothing they can do,they need to start helping a bit.calsae wrote: ↑26 Jan 2023, 16:54We’ve been told no more 4 days a week or 9 day fortnights. Not sure if you refuse to change as it affects life balances do they just sack you. Been on these shifts for 10yearsClappedoutpostie wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 15:55Are they going with the 1 in 6 Saturdays duty pattern across the country. No more 9 day fortnights, Wally weeks, 4 day weeks. What’s been said by management in your office?![]()
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HTPostman
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 1505
- Joined: 01 Sep 2008, 23:53
- Gender: Male
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
Sorry, having reread my post it wasn’t very clear. I’m on 7hrs 10mins a day, and work 4 days a week. Most others are on 5 day weeks (1 in 4), 7hrs 10mins a day apart from Weds/Thurs (my 2 days off) when they work longer, can’t remember how long they work those days.A2B wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 18:47So how many hours a day are you working and what time are RM saying your start time will be in the future?HTPostman wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 18:06I can’t speak for other DOs, here we just have 1 in 4, and 4 day weeks here. I asked a manager if they plan on getting rid of 4 day weeks, she said not this time round but it’s on the agenda for the next negotiations (in her words ‘which will probably be in a couple of years’).Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑25 Jan 2023, 15:55Are they going with the 1 in 6 Saturdays duty pattern across the country. No more 9 day fortnights, Wally weeks, 4 day weeks. What’s been said by management in your office?
Our start/finish times move to half an hour later.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.
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goneaway
- Posts: 314
- Joined: 20 Oct 2016, 19:50
- Gender: Male
Re: What's being forced through where you are?
(1) Absorbing suddenly increased from 2 walks to 6 walks, with little notice. Ill thought out, plenty of dead walks with no effort to loop up each bit of absorption.
(2) Extra postbox collections added on delivery, with no notice till the day and over a week till the public were notified of earlier collections times on the boxes after the changes come into effect.
(3) Stopped all posties working their rotation weeks off, many of them having done so for years - unless they had signed for them under SA (scheduled attendance)
(4) No extended overtime being paid on some days (particularly Tuesdays) if too much work to complete in contracted hours
(5) Threats you won't be paid if you forget to sign in or sign out under SISO (although I understand at this stage, SISO is not supposed to be linked to pay)
(6) All mail has to be taken out on delivery, even if it's obvious it can't all be completed in contracted hours, so wasting time the next day returning the mail back to sorting frame and further impacting the time available for delivery the next day
Tannoy announcements to "concentrate on the Trackeds and Specials" if you can't complete, quietly dropped the day after Simon Thompson said in the Parliament Select Committee said RM doesn't prioritise which mail is delivered.
(2) Extra postbox collections added on delivery, with no notice till the day and over a week till the public were notified of earlier collections times on the boxes after the changes come into effect.
(3) Stopped all posties working their rotation weeks off, many of them having done so for years - unless they had signed for them under SA (scheduled attendance)
(4) No extended overtime being paid on some days (particularly Tuesdays) if too much work to complete in contracted hours
(5) Threats you won't be paid if you forget to sign in or sign out under SISO (although I understand at this stage, SISO is not supposed to be linked to pay)
(6) All mail has to be taken out on delivery, even if it's obvious it can't all be completed in contracted hours, so wasting time the next day returning the mail back to sorting frame and further impacting the time available for delivery the next day
Tannoy announcements to "concentrate on the Trackeds and Specials" if you can't complete, quietly dropped the day after Simon Thompson said in the Parliament Select Committee said RM doesn't prioritise which mail is delivered.