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Childish CWU-It's not a game!

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timbo1234
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Re: Childish CWU-It's not a game!

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redlen wrote:
18 Jan 2023, 17:00
Any subject debated in Parliament demands a level of respect for all involved. Have to agree holding up a sign is no better than an individual doing exactly the same thing behind an outside broadcast interview. People are talking about how unprofessional that was rather than the substance of the debate. For a head of communications, he should know better and be impartial to that debate.
Wrong again.
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Suprised he didnt hold up a sign saying ' Put 'i am with my union in the comments' all he seems to do
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Don't panic, things are looking better and better each day...

We are now close to 100,000 followers on Twitter and 90,000 likes on Facebook. We are reaching millions of people every week.
Make sure you are following every CWU social media account. It helps to get your case out there.
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Post by cobrakai »

I’ve been fed up with the union’s professionalism and approach for a while tbh. The stupid dancing about videos and inane drivel posted on social media (not on it but people tell me in the office).

I saw them dancing about on sky news the other week on a picket line too…

As an aside why didn’t Dave and Andy have ties on yesterday? It didn’t look great either to me anyway.
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Absolutely furious at the schoolboy behaviour by our Comms representative. The clown seriously damaged the validity of Dave Wards arguments and the reputation of the CWU...he's been poor all year.....perhaps it would be better to use our subs to bring in a professional...I for one will be canvassing to ensure colleagues do not vote for him at next election !!
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He is not an elected official but appointed as an employee. He got the position as a reward being Dave Ward campaign manager for General Secretary..
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That’s quite amusing.

So it’s a little childish - why does everything have to be so serious anyway?

I can’t see how it does any serious harm to our overall position - and doubt many outside of the interested parties noticed or understood what it was about.

Do we also need to check the audio for coughing “tosser” noises?
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Amateur behaviour and detracted from the message. I'm sure he's been suitably informed.

Could have been worse. Apparently, he wanted to moon, and put 2 fingers up behind Simons head.
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CamPostie wrote:
18 Jan 2023, 21:59
That’s quite amusing.

So it’s a little childish - why does everything have to be so serious anyway?

I can’t see how it does any serious harm to our overall position - and doubt many outside of the interested parties noticed or understood what it was about.

Do we also need to check the audio for coughing “tosser” noises?
Yes coughing tosser appeals to my sense of humour, but this is serious, our jobs our lives could change dramatically if RM get their way, so in this instance I'm not laughing
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The minority who think this is amusing need to realise that when you are in front of MP's who - let's be honest - live in a completely different world to us anyway, how you put your case across and your behaviour are taken in. This is a dispute so serious that it has ended up before Parliament, so anyone who thinks this is still amusing needs to give their heads a serious wobble. In many ways this was a courtroom, with the CWU the prosecution and Thompson the defence.

Dave not only put the CWU's side brilliantly, he came over good as well. The MP committee will have been fully aware of who Webb was within the CWU to be allowed into the room in the first place, so for him to act like the juvenile plank that he did, reflects on the CWU as a whole, particularly as he is the HEAD of COMMUNICATIONS.

Thompson didn't need any help with digging himself into a hole when giving his "evidence", and the fact that Thompson eluded to Webb's buffoonery in a video yesterday says that it hasn't gone unnoticed.....the LAST thing ANYONE should be giving Thompson and the board is ammunition :arrrghhh
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priority102 wrote:
19 Jan 2023, 10:15
The minority who think this is amusing need to realise that when you are in front of MP's who - let's be honest - live in a completely different world to us anyway, how you put your case across and your behaviour are taken in. This is a dispute so serious that it has ended up before Parliament, so anyone who thinks this is still amusing needs to give their heads a serious wobble. In many ways this was a courtroom, with the CWU the prosecution and Thompson the defence.

Dave not only put the CWU's side brilliantly, he came over good as well. The MP committee will have been fully aware of who Webb was within the CWU to be allowed into the room in the first place, so for him to act like the juvenile plank that he did, reflects on the CWU as a whole, particularly as he is the HEAD of COMMUNICATIONS.

Thompson didn't need any help with digging himself into a hole when giving his "evidence", and the fact that Thompson eluded to Webb's buffoonery in a video yesterday says that it hasn't gone unnoticed.....the LAST thing ANYONE should be giving Thompson and the board is ammunition :arrrghhh
Exactly, time and place springs to mind
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Don't really have a problem with the vote yes stunt, it's a meaningless select comity, great to watch little Joe 90 getting roasted and shown to be the deceitful sack of crap he's being paid to be but nothing substantial will happen, did he deceive the comity: YES
Should he face legal action as a result: YES
Will anything happen: NO
It's a show so Chris Webb sticking a vote yes thing up, kinda fits in with this political pantomime so yeah why not
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Saying Parliamentary select committees are meaningless shows a serious lack of understanding on the powers they do have. For a start they are cross bench members and an extension of the House of Commons. Imprisonment or a substantial fine could theoretically be imposed as a punishment by parliament on anyone who told lies in evidence to a select committee. Witnesses now can take an oath before giving evidence, lying then is perjury.
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Re: Childish CWU-It's not a game!

Post by cod »

redlen wrote:
19 Jan 2023, 10:46
Saying Parliamentary select committees are meaningless shows a serious lack of understanding on the powers they do have. For a start they are cross bench members and an extension of the House of Commons. Imprisonment or a substantial fine could theoretically be imposed as a punishment by parliament on anyone who told lies in evidence to a select committee. Witnesses now can take an oath before giving evidence, lying then is perjury.
And what happen to P&O after their roasting nothing, I would love for these committees to have some real teeth but really if you're expecting this to have influence on the AI or the future direction of this company, you're the one needs to get some understanding of reality mate
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priority102 wrote:
19 Jan 2023, 10:15
The minority who think this is amusing need to realise that when you are in front of MP's who - let's be honest - live in a completely different world to us anyway, how you put your case across and your behaviour are taken in. This is a dispute so serious that it has ended up before Parliament, so anyone who thinks this is still amusing needs to give their heads a serious wobble. In many ways this was a courtroom, with the CWU the prosecution and Thompson the defence.

Dave not only put the CWU's side brilliantly, he came over good as well. The MP committee will have been fully aware of who Webb was within the CWU to be allowed into the room in the first place, so for him to act like the juvenile plank that he did, reflects on the CWU as a whole, particularly as he is the HEAD of COMMUNICATIONS.

Thompson didn't need any help with digging himself into a hole when giving his "evidence", and the fact that Thompson eluded to Webb's buffoonery in a video yesterday says that it hasn't gone unnoticed.....the LAST thing ANYONE should be giving Thompson and the board is ammunition :arrrghhh
It was a pleasure to watch ST getting a grilling a squirming uncomfortably in his seat. But I was distracted by the two idiots behind, laughing and joking and on their phones. Then the vote yes sign.
Extremely embarrassing. Dave and Andy put up a good account for us all, only to be let down by two idiots. Dave Ward needs to have serious words with those two. It’s not a laughing matter. This is our future that’s in question here. GROW UP THOSE WHO THINK THAT WAS A FUNNY STUNT.
As was said we don’t want to give ST and RM any more ammunition