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priority102
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Re: VR update

Post by priority102 »

cobrakai wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 22:00


Are you not worried that if we revert back to the pathway to change agreement that the MTSF terms will apply and you have gone on the cheap?!?
I think that ship has well and truly sailed.
cobrakai
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Re: VR update

Post by cobrakai »

tractorboy2 wrote:
17 Jan 2023, 08:21
cobrakai wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 22:00
blackbooks wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 21:52
Two going in my office, I am one of them.

Manager spoke to all who applied in early Dec. Notified of potential success a few days later. Seniority applied. Given provisional offer before Xmas, needed to get legal advice on contract (RM pay for this) and return by Dec 30th. Confirmed and notice letter last week. Going late March. Can’t wait, joined eleven years ago. Best job going, ruined by incompetent management.
Are you not worried that if we revert back to the pathway to change agreement that the MTSF terms will apply and you have gone on the cheap?!?
I believe the MTSF agreement is a separate entity , and nothing to do with the Pathway to Change.
https://www.cwu.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... e-2021.pdf

Section 2.4
tractorboy2
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Re: VR update

Post by tractorboy2 »

cobrakai wrote:
17 Jan 2023, 09:36
tractorboy2 wrote:
17 Jan 2023, 08:21
cobrakai wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 22:00
blackbooks wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 21:52
Two going in my office, I am one of them.

Manager spoke to all who applied in early Dec. Notified of potential success a few days later. Seniority applied. Given provisional offer before Xmas, needed to get legal advice on contract (RM pay for this) and return by Dec 30th. Confirmed and notice letter last week. Going late March. Can’t wait, joined eleven years ago. Best job going, ruined by incompetent management.
Are you not worried that if we revert back to the pathway to change agreement that the MTSF terms will apply and you have gone on the cheap?!?
I believe the MTSF agreement is a separate entity , and nothing to do with the Pathway to Change.
https://www.cwu.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... e-2021.pdf

Section 2.4
I stand corrected.
cobrakai
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Re: VR update

Post by cobrakai »

That’s the reason the company been very careful with referring to the ripped up agreements. It’s a disgrace really.
blackbooks
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Re: VR update

Post by blackbooks »

cobrakai wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 22:00
blackbooks wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 21:52
Two going in my office, I am one of them.

Manager spoke to all who applied in early Dec. Notified of potential success a few days later. Seniority applied. Given provisional offer before Xmas, needed to get legal advice on contract (RM pay for this) and return by Dec 30th. Confirmed and notice letter last week. Going late March. Can’t wait, joined eleven years ago. Best job going, ruined by incompetent management.
Are you not worried that if we revert back to the pathway to change agreement that the MTSF terms will apply and you have gone on the cheap?!?
No. I was going to go this winter/spring anyway. Deal may not be what it once was, but decent compared to most. My guess is that there will be such a ‘financial crisis’ this spring that RM will do a P&O. Fire and rehire at lower terms, losing about 25k staff in the process.
Nickvilla20
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Re: VR update

Post by Nickvilla20 »

blackbooks wrote:
19 Jan 2023, 21:04
cobrakai wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 22:00
blackbooks wrote:
16 Jan 2023, 21:52
Two going in my office, I am one of them.

Manager spoke to all who applied in early Dec. Notified of potential success a few days later. Seniority applied. Given provisional offer before Xmas, needed to get legal advice on contract (RM pay for this) and return by Dec 30th. Confirmed and notice letter last week. Going late March. Can’t wait, joined eleven years ago. Best job going, ruined by incompetent management.
Are you not worried that if we revert back to the pathway to change agreement that the MTSF terms will apply and you have gone on the cheap?!?
No. I was going to go this winter/spring anyway. Deal may not be what it once was, but decent compared to most. My guess is that there will be such a ‘financial crisis’ this spring that RM will do a P&O. Fire and rehire at lower terms, losing about 25k staff in the process.
P&O didn’t do a fire and rehire they just made all their staff redundant and in the end paid out quite a lot of money.

If they tried that trick many wouldn’t resign myself included and it would be a PR disaster for Royal Mail.