Agency workers

[Halfhappy]

Statement from the CWU with the recent proposed settlement agreement

Royal Mail must commit to prioritising the removal of all agency staff before voluntary redundancies take place and confirm they will not hire new entrants across the business to replace existing workers who decide to take voluntary redundancy.

So the real reason behind the taciturn approach the CWU has taken toward supporting those CWU members who work for Angard (A wholly owned RMG Company) becomes apparent.

They want RMG to commit to effectively depriving Angard staff of their employment and the means of earning a wage. Many Angard staff have worked in RM depots longer than direct hire RM staff, years most times Angard staff have in the main supported the IA and refused to cross picket lines much to their financial detriment in order to support their colleagues and friends yet here we have a Union blatantly stabbing fellow workers in the back.

I repeat fellow communication workers and CWU members who have supported the IA. An utterly shameful move from the CWU leadership is a thing that they consistently blame ST for doing. Utter Hypocrites.

Angard staff are now aware of the contempt that the CWU leadership has for them. Do not be surprised if many highly experienced Angard staff cross the picket line . Remember, these Angard staff are multi-skilled and can cover every aspect of the operation. Combine these skilled staff with the recent huge influx of 'seasonal staff', who probably will cross picket lines, then the planned effect of the IA may be decimated.

Also good luck with trying to convince pickets to talk their Angard colleagues out of crossing picket lines. I am sure the rank-and-file members will see how much of a hypocritical act this would be, especially as Dave Ward is on record advising workers working for the likes of Amazon to join a union. Why should they, Mr Ward? you'll just pocket their fees then stab them in the back.

For God's sake, let it go. We all know you hate the CWU. Is this your new thread, to pull at, now that you were wrong about us all getting sacked?

[Halfhappy]

So the CWU now want to remove all agency staff - sigh! Why now? Is it protect overtime or just want to hamstring Royal Mail after the failed strikes.

RM is just playing along for now because they know the CWU has lost its fang and gradually becoming toothless.

They even agree to CWU having another ballot while intensive talks are going...

Facing saving time?

This makes zero sense. If the CWU is toothless why even bother playing with them at all? Why not continue with the plan, or even ramp it up? Utter nonsense.

[chrisj]

Because you cannot undo CWU in such an aggressive fashion - they are entrenched within Royal Mail but with time, you will find that the show will cease to be run by the Union.

So after all that has happened, you still think the CWU are holding Royal Mail to some sort of ransom. RM is a business that wants to get on with things, so they will play along for now.

It might not make sense to you but a lot here live in cloudcooland...

[Halfhappy]

Because you cannot undo CWU in such an aggressive fashion - they are entrenched within Royal Mail but with time, you will find that the show will cease to be run by the Union.

So after all that has happened, you still think the CWU are holding Royal Mail to some sort of ransom. RM is a business that wants to get on with things, so they will play along for now.

It might not make sense to you but a lot here live in cloudcooland...

Do you mean cloud cuckoo land?... At least get ur insults right.

Its not about holding any party to ransom, or running the show. It's about creating a partnership that enriches both parties. The CWU, like all unions, use leverage to bring an employer to negotiations to reach a compromise. It's not about one party winning over another.

After all that's happened, RM have made concessions and returned to talks, in return the CWU have agreed to hold off further IA.

RM is a business that wants to get on with one thing, and that's cutting labour costs, nothing more nothing less. If you think RM are going to achieve that, by appeasing an apparently toothless foe, and playing along, until membership ebbs away, (I'm going to have to assume that is what u mean by 'entrenched'), then you're entire narrative is misguided.

[koolishy67]

7 in our office 17 vacancies who is going to do walk if agency goes they are not going to recruit anyone all 17 walks going to split rest of the walk I think

[Hyrrokkin]

Because you cannot undo CWU in such an aggressive fashion - they are entrenched within Royal Mail but with time, you will find that the show will cease to be run by the Union.

So after all that has happened, you still think the CWU are holding Royal Mail to some sort of ransom. RM is a business that wants to get on with things, so they will play along for now.

It might not make sense to you but a lot here live in cloudcooland...

Except you of course..you are different and special - above us mere mortals and can see the 'Big Picture' that none of us can see

I bow before thee oh Great One Of The Universe

[Binsey]

It will be interesting to see how the Union is received by the shareholders this week if it’s still on?

Blackrock , Vanguard and Mr Chunki friend of the Trade Union Vista.

Blackrock last week “ bought” Ukraine.

Always look what the clued up Reps are up to.
Hoping for VRs that’s what happening.

[Celtic warrior]

Royal Mail did not say it would get rid of all Agency / Angard staff.

They have agreed to remove the additional agency & temp workers brought in to counter balance the offset of the strike damage to the business and the Christmas pressure.

The existing Angard staff will still be used and employed as part of the agreed resourcing model.
Dave Ward only mentioned the removal of Angard in the event of any Compulsory redundancies, this was to point out that it is illegal to make someone compulsory redundant and then back fill the job with another wether it be agency or new staff on cheaper wages.

There is no need to cause fear and resentment out of nothing just because it's what you want others to believe.

[pinstripe]

Royal Mail did not say it would get rid of all Agency / Angard staff.

They have agreed to remove the additional agency & temp workers brought in to counter balance the offset of the strike damage to the business and the Christmas pressure.

The existing Angard staff will still be used and employed as part of the agreed resourcing model.
Dave Ward only mentioned the removal of Angard in the event of any Compulsory redundancies, this was to point out that it is illegal to make someone compulsory redundant and then back fill the job with another wether it be agency or new staff on cheaper wages.

There is no need to cause fear and resentment out of nothing just because it's what you want others to believe.

Oh stop it! If the trolls on here even care enough to read your post, which disproves their argument, they’ll have to make up some other nonsense to try and divide us.

[ninja22]

Royal Mail did not say it would get rid of all Agency / Angard staff.

They have agreed to remove the additional agency & temp workers brought in to counter balance the offset of the strike damage to the business and the Christmas pressure.

The existing Angard staff will still be used and employed as part of the agreed resourcing model.
Dave Ward only mentioned the removal of Angard in the event of any Compulsory redundancies, this was to point out that it is illegal to make someone compulsory redundant and then back fill the job with another wether it be agency or new staff on cheaper wages.

There is no need to cause fear and resentment out of nothing just because it's what you want others to believe.

Finally someone talking sense, Thank you!

[neviboss]

Apparently Ryde drivers have a contract until 24/1 @£23.50 p.h!

[kazardaimenu]

I did wonder why there were no parcels left at the end of the day even tho all our parcel duties have been shelved.

[Cedar_Room]

Royal Mail did not say it would get rid of all Agency / Angard staff.

They have agreed to remove the additional agency & temp workers brought in to counter balance the offset of the strike damage to the business and the Christmas pressure.

The existing Angard staff will still be used and employed as part of the agreed resourcing model.
Dave Ward only mentioned the removal of Angard in the event of any Compulsory redundancies, this was to point out that it is illegal to make someone compulsory redundant and then back fill the job with another wether it be agency or new staff on cheaper wages.

There is no need to cause fear and resentment out of nothing just because it's what you want others to believe.

Well said mate…