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What's happening with mail volumes?

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daveyeff
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by daveyeff »

If you are young enough it's worth taking it. A couple of lads who have opted for VR at ours are using it to pay for hgv class 1 and 2. You can get good money driving the "big wheelers" it's not worth it if you are late 50s early 60s though imo
j1mmyc
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by j1mmyc »

daveyeff wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 20:55
If you are young enough it's worth taking it. A couple of lads who have opted for VR at ours are using it to pay for hgv class 1 and 2. You can get good money driving the "big wheelers" it's not worth it if you are late 50s early 60s though imo
Yeah royal mail paid for my class 2 which I passed in November and I'm currently training for my class 1 license, I'm 36 with 18 years service under my belt but I'm not leaving without a penny if I can help it
wandle
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by wandle »

Binsey wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 16:46
Well will see when the Christmas performance figures are released.

On my travels spoke to a few people of all grades including senior managers.

The bottom line is Mail Is significantly down.
Like it or lump it.

I have no doubt we’re finally killing off Letters which we started with the IA of 2007.
So the introduction of Downstream Access in 2003 had nothing to do with the downward spiral?
Ali831
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by Ali831 »

Same for me, frame is clear but a large amount of cards sent from overseas have arrived this week, have they been held abroad somewhere
kazardaimenu
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by kazardaimenu »

So what’s happened to all the mail? We’re still getting a load of crap plus business mail, payslips, credit cards they haven’t suddenly stopped overnight.
justanumber
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by justanumber »

j1mmyc wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 21:15
daveyeff wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 20:55
If you are young enough it's worth taking it. A couple of lads who have opted for VR at ours are using it to pay for hgv class 1 and 2. You can get good money driving the "big wheelers" it's not worth it if you are late 50s early 60s though imo
Yeah royal mail paid for my class 2 which I passed in November and I'm currently training for my class 1 license, I'm 36 with 18 years service under my belt but I'm not leaving without a penny if I can help it
Just a word of advice J1mmyc,take it or leave it. Im a class 1 driver dont leave once you've passed. Not get a better paid hgv job than RM. Dont know where u are in UK but get in touch with your nearest Distribution/mail centre, see how you get on. Honest bud you would be daft leaving.
j1mmyc
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by j1mmyc »

justanumber wrote:
07 Jan 2023, 07:10
j1mmyc wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 21:15
daveyeff wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 20:55
If you are young enough it's worth taking it. A couple of lads who have opted for VR at ours are using it to pay for hgv class 1 and 2. You can get good money driving the "big wheelers" it's not worth it if you are late 50s early 60s though imo
Yeah royal mail paid for my class 2 which I passed in November and I'm currently training for my class 1 license, I'm 36 with 18 years service under my belt but I'm not leaving without a penny if I can help it
Just a word of advice J1mmyc,take it or leave it. Im a class 1 driver dont leave once you've passed. Not get a better paid hgv job than RM. Dont know where u are in UK but get in touch with your nearest Distribution/mail centre, see how you get on. Honest bud you would be daft leaving.
Yeah I've been told that already about class 1 being stupidly easy money, problem I've got is they have out me through class 2 and still haven't used me and I've been passed since November, they prefer to use agency drivers than people they have trained to do the job 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️ I'm in Birmingham area, ive tried Wolverhampton and Birmingham mail centres but still no class 2 work for me
grover_as
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by grover_as »

Same here. I'm in processing, I passed my class 2 with RM academy in September was chuffed but haven't driven since my test. I spoke to the area distribution gaffer offering to do it on overtime or releasebut nothing back. All I get is look on success factors. Was Quite peeded off seeing half a dozen agency getting their driving assessments done for Xmas.
Clappedoutpostie
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by Clappedoutpostie »

Pay to train people up and then use agency :arrrghhh Wouldn't happen at any normal company would it
j1mmyc
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by j1mmyc »

grover_as wrote:
07 Jan 2023, 11:39
Same here. I'm in processing, I passed my class 2 with RM academy in September was chuffed but haven't driven since my test. I spoke to the area distribution gaffer offering to do it on overtime or releasebut nothing back. All I get is look on success factors. Was Quite peeded off seeing half a dozen agency getting their driving assessments done for Xmas.
Haha I had exactly the same 'look on success factors' what was the point of paying for people to get trained up if there going to continue used a ton of agency workers on £18hr 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️
grover_as
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by grover_as »

It's unreal but shouldn't surprise me tbh. I've been at RM 28 years and don't expect to walk straight into a nice driving duty but it's unbelievable agency are been put ahead of RM staff when RM have folked out £1000s getting them through their hgv test.
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

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masterblaster
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by masterblaster »

Busy - Loadsa crap broadband and estate agent shots, plus many cards posted 2 weeks before christmas. Last weeks D2D turning up on thursday, and soon be time for National front, sorry trust mags. Don't forget the only reason RM say's letter volumes are down, is because they only count ones with stamps on.
SpacePhoenix
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by SpacePhoenix »

masterblaster wrote:
07 Jan 2023, 15:04
Don't forget the only reason RM say's letter volumes are down, is because they only count ones with stamps on.
Wrong. The other day were were shown a year v year breakdown of every stream, not just stamps
arsenalbob
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Re: What's happening with mail volumes?

Post by arsenalbob »

Kenfandango wrote:
06 Jan 2023, 14:34
I'm putting this here as I feel it's related to the IA, but feel free to move it if it's too off topic.

Mail volumes have dropped significantly this week, to the point where our heaviest walks were looking pretty barren in the frames. "It's after Christmas" is an acceptable answer, however the mail we are getting still contains Christmas cards, and magazines from before the 23rd (I had 3 copies of the Christmas radio times today... I know they were that one as it was twice as thick as the regular) along with a bunch of "addressed D2Ds" advertising a local event that happened on boxing day.

So what is going on?
If there's still pre-xmas mail knocking about, why is it coming through half a crate at a time (I had one small bundle of mech and a few magazines and leaflets on IPS) and where's the mail going that we are taking out of the boxes (I emptied 2 letters from a box on Tuesday that were for the walk I'm on, they have yet to come through)
Because we don’t deliver mail. We’re a parcels company.