ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Postal workers discussion forum. Discuss the day to day life in a Blue Shirt.
GRS
Posts: 822
Joined: 15 Jun 2015, 18:38
Gender: Female
Location: South West

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by GRS »

But I thought Thompson et al are desperate for RM to be like Evri/DPD/Amazon!!!! So we've now got a situation where these guys are chucking stuff out of a vehicle window onto a rain soaked path where it's likely to continue raining for the next few hours and yet we're offering a service encouraging senders to opt out of leaving it in an enclosed porch/garage or neighbours. Basically two situations at odds with themselves, we are either striving to be like these other "super couriers" or we're not. Which is it Thompson?
seaside
Posts: 266
Joined: 31 May 2013, 18:51
Gender: Female

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by seaside »

I personally think it's a good idea, stops some from leaving it anywhere, I get parcels which need a signature left in outside cupboard from royal mail, never have I asked the post person to leave it there. They are just rushing to finish early. They might have to review there options for closing callers office.Has personally I would rather collect the item if I am not in.
postieblueshirt
Posts: 1241
Joined: 01 Oct 2019, 22:05
Gender: Male

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by postieblueshirt »

Splappy_McSplap wrote:
01 Jan 2023, 07:52
I had the joy of lugging a 15kg box on a 500m or so walk to a shop in an area that I can't park the van at (local buses and cycles only) and finding that the shop I had the box for was closed.

No problem, I thought, the shop a few units down might take it.

Sure thing, they said.

Then, when I scanned the box (as we are supposed to scan the item at its actual destination) it said "Under no circumstances should this item be left with a neighbour".

I wasted my time going there and I wasted their time asking them.

Then I am left standing holding a heavy box with nowhere to deliver it.

Highlight of my day.
Not being a smart arse honest but you can scan the parcel anywhere you like as long as you submit the scan at its destination.
GRS
Posts: 822
Joined: 15 Jun 2015, 18:38
Gender: Female
Location: South West

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by GRS »

seaside wrote:
02 Jan 2023, 12:11
I personally think it's a good idea, stops some from leaving it anywhere, I get parcels which need a signature left in outside cupboard from royal mail, never have I asked the post person to leave it there. They are just rushing to finish early. They might have to review there options for closing callers office.Has personally I would rather collect the item if I am not in.

Not being funny here but you're saying you don't want RM leaving a parcel in a cupboard for you, but what about the other lot who chuck stuff
anywhere ie: over the gate, up the path, up next doors path and all the time it's raining so that the thing is disintegrating before you get home.

As for the comment on rushing to finish early then I can't see how that happens anymore with SISO. If SISO is being used but ignored in offices then those people, posties and managers alike are storing up massive problems for themselves in the the coming months.
SpacePhoenix
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 12140
Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
Gender: Male

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by SpacePhoenix »

postieblueshirt wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 09:32
Splappy_McSplap wrote:
01 Jan 2023, 07:52
I had the joy of lugging a 15kg box on a 500m or so walk to a shop in an area that I can't park the van at (local buses and cycles only) and finding that the shop I had the box for was closed.

No problem, I thought, the shop a few units down might take it.

Sure thing, they said.

Then, when I scanned the box (as we are supposed to scan the item at its actual destination) it said "Under no circumstances should this item be left with a neighbour".

I wasted my time going there and I wasted their time asking them.

Then I am left standing holding a heavy box with nowhere to deliver it.

Highlight of my day.
Not being a smart arse honest but you can scan the parcel anywhere you like as long as you submit the scan at its destination.
Fairly sure the PDAs grab the location data when the actual scan is done, not when it's submitted
postieblueshirt
Posts: 1241
Joined: 01 Oct 2019, 22:05
Gender: Male

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by postieblueshirt »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 10:19
postieblueshirt wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 09:32
Splappy_McSplap wrote:
01 Jan 2023, 07:52
I had the joy of lugging a 15kg box on a 500m or so walk to a shop in an area that I can't park the van at (local buses and cycles only) and finding that the shop I had the box for was closed.

No problem, I thought, the shop a few units down might take it.

Sure thing, they said.

Then, when I scanned the box (as we are supposed to scan the item at its actual destination) it said "Under no circumstances should this item be left with a neighbour".

I wasted my time going there and I wasted their time asking them.

Then I am left standing holding a heavy box with nowhere to deliver it.

Highlight of my day.
Not being a smart arse honest but you can scan the parcel anywhere you like as long as you submit the scan at its destination.
Fairly sure the PDAs grab the location data when the actual scan is done, not when it's submitted
done it a million times never been mentioned.
SpacePhoenix
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 12140
Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
Gender: Male

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by SpacePhoenix »

postieblueshirt wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 10:46
SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 10:19
postieblueshirt wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 09:32
Splappy_McSplap wrote:
01 Jan 2023, 07:52
I had the joy of lugging a 15kg box on a 500m or so walk to a shop in an area that I can't park the van at (local buses and cycles only) and finding that the shop I had the box for was closed.

No problem, I thought, the shop a few units down might take it.

Sure thing, they said.

Then, when I scanned the box (as we are supposed to scan the item at its actual destination) it said "Under no circumstances should this item be left with a neighbour".

I wasted my time going there and I wasted their time asking them.

Then I am left standing holding a heavy box with nowhere to deliver it.

Highlight of my day.
Not being a smart arse honest but you can scan the parcel anywhere you like as long as you submit the scan at its destination.
Fairly sure the PDAs grab the location data when the actual scan is done, not when it's submitted
done it a million times never been mentioned.
Don't forget we're in uncharted waters now, none of us can say for sure what EA we'll all be hit with over the next couple of months. With anything that could be a potential disciplinary, it's best to tread carefully now. For RM is they can get rid of someone on a disciplinary rather than VR that's money saved for them. Don't make yourself easy pickings for that
postieblueshirt
Posts: 1241
Joined: 01 Oct 2019, 22:05
Gender: Male

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by postieblueshirt »

i understand and agree with you.in the past ive grabbed a special scanned it then realised its not that one deleted it then scanned and delivered the correct one,Nobodys ever mentioned anything but then again ive not had any go missing or a complaint (yet) but i agree we need to play safe.On that note my partner door stepps everything puts stuff in bins signs for specials and somehow still gets away with no complaints,matter of time though.
ted_e_bear
Posts: 4085
Joined: 03 Sep 2012, 19:37
Gender: Male

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by ted_e_bear »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 10:19
postieblueshirt wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 09:32
Splappy_McSplap wrote:
01 Jan 2023, 07:52
I had the joy of lugging a 15kg box on a 500m or so walk to a shop in an area that I can't park the van at (local buses and cycles only) and finding that the shop I had the box for was closed.

No problem, I thought, the shop a few units down might take it.

Sure thing, they said.

Then, when I scanned the box (as we are supposed to scan the item at its actual destination) it said "Under no circumstances should this item be left with a neighbour".

I wasted my time going there and I wasted their time asking them.

Then I am left standing holding a heavy box with nowhere to deliver it.

Highlight of my day.
Not being a smart arse honest but you can scan the parcel anywhere you like as long as you submit the scan at its destination.
Fairly sure the PDAs grab the location data when the actual scan is done, not when it's submitted
It's definitely when it's submitted
SpacePhoenix
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 12140
Joined: 12 Nov 2008, 17:03
Gender: Male

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by SpacePhoenix »

I can see RM soon changing it to have it grab the location where it was scanned, if they're bringing in something like this
Dexydog
Posts: 887
Joined: 14 Jan 2017, 13:54
Gender: Male

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by Dexydog »

It's definitely when it's submitted
[/quote]

Not saying you're wrong, but who told you this?
My COM just told me it's when when the PDA beeps. i.e when it's scanned.
Asmad
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 49
Joined: 02 Nov 2021, 17:30
Gender: Male

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by Asmad »

Had this conversation with manager last week. He says it's recorded from where you 1st scan, not when you hit submit. He also requested we don't scan while walking to the address but when we're actually at the door for this reason
ted_e_bear
Posts: 4085
Joined: 03 Sep 2012, 19:37
Gender: Male

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by ted_e_bear »

Dexydog wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 14:13
It's definitely when it's submitted
Not saying you're wrong, but who told you this?
My COM just told me it's when when the PDA beeps. i.e when it's scanned.
[/quote]

It's what a previous Dom told me so presumed it was correct, out of interest I'm going to try and test it tomorrow by scanning something then having a look at track an item on the RM app, I'll report back on here if I'm successful either way.
*horcrux*
Posts: 78
Joined: 22 May 2017, 13:31
Gender: Male

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by *horcrux* »

Whenever a DoR comes through the complaints system it generally says at the end to remind the postie that the location and time data is gathered when first scanned, not when submitted
ted_e_bear
Posts: 4085
Joined: 03 Sep 2012, 19:37
Gender: Male

Re: New for Tracked - "Can't be safeplaced/neigboured"

Post by ted_e_bear »

*horcrux* wrote:
03 Jan 2023, 15:47
Whenever a DoR comes through the complaints system it generally says at the end to remind the postie that the location and time data is gathered when first scanned, not when submitted
Ah that confirms it then, looks like my previous dom was wrong.