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Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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Beanyjazz
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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Can you block people on here so you don't have to read their comments?
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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walthmstowman wrote:
30 Dec 2022, 14:08
redlen wrote:
30 Dec 2022, 13:29
It was an almost certainty Simon Thompson would go nuclear in january. He needs everything in place before April with the start of the new financial year and a new five year business plan.
With no agreement in place with the CWU him going nuclear in January will end in disaster .
Yes & with his nuclear executive action set in concrete by April, he can probably expect tens of thousands off with stress within one week :arrrghhh :arrrghhh :arrrghhh

Delivery (D/Os) will have the biggest issues due to 'delivering the final mile'.

My understanding from reading on here is agency don't want to do letter delivery :shock:

ST to then go crying to ofcom that he then can't facilitate the USO anymore, will hopefully fall on deaf ears :Boo hoo! :Applause

He should be told as the CEO, 'it's your shitshow that you've created, get on & manage it'! Time to earn your over inflated salary & bonus :whistle
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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Beanyjazz wrote:
30 Dec 2022, 14:22
Can you block people on here so you don't have to read their comments?
Yes. Click on their user name and it gives you the option of add foe.
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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CWU where are you?

Would love to know.

Managers have clearly been told to ram through the changes.
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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What you expect after all this industrial action royal mail loss money at peak time of year 21 going in our office
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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Seriously, how far do these executive knob head's think a person can reasonably walk every day! I know, they don't care. If you need convincing that the only way we have any chance in this job of survival is to strike and strike again... This is it.
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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adamanti wrote:
30 Dec 2022, 15:17
Seriously, how far do these executive knob head's think a person can reasonably walk every day! I know, they don't care. If you need convincing that the only way we have any chance in this job of survival is to strike and strike again... This is it.
I’ve been wondering just such a thing. Surely there is some sort of Health & Safety rule about how far you can walk carrying a load everyday?
’You can't just ask customers what they want and then try to give that to them. By the time you get it built, they'll want something new.’
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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Don't be carrying, get it on a trolley
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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*horcrux* wrote:
30 Dec 2022, 15:32
Don't be carrying, get it on a trolley
Oh not this chestnut again. ‘Get a LWT’ ugh. You’re still walking the miles, pushing or pulling the weight.
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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adamanti wrote:
30 Dec 2022, 15:17
Seriously, how far do these executive knob head's think a person can reasonably walk every day!
The same question could and should be asked of the CWU and Dave Joyce.
The problems of automation and longer delivery spans is nothing new. The CWU fudged the issue by passing the decision down to local level.

I think (and this is nothing new) people need to stop believing the technology attached to their wrist or on their phone.
I doubt people are actually walking anything like what they claim.
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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Disregarding how ridiculous this idea is, is there any criteria like a percentage of existing duties? say 13 to go but from how many?

Or is there any actual sensible planning involved using the PDA info etc.

We haven't been told anything yet at our place I've only heard about it on here.
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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Barnacle wrote:
30 Dec 2022, 15:40

Oh not this chestnut again. ‘Get a HCT’ ugh. You’re still walking the miles, pushing or pulling the weight.
If you put a bag on your shoulder that weight is transferred down through your spine, hips, knees and ultimately your feet.
Taking the weight off isn't the be all and end all of solving the problems of delivery, but it is a very good place to start.
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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clashcityrocker wrote:
30 Dec 2022, 15:47
Barnacle wrote:
30 Dec 2022, 15:40

Oh not this chestnut again. ‘Get a HCT’ ugh. You’re still walking the miles, pushing or pulling the weight.
If you put a bag on your shoulder that weight is transferred down through your spine, hips, knees and ultimately your feet.
Taking the weight off isn't the be all and end all of solving the problems of delivery, but it is a very good place to start.
For the umpteenth time: not all walks are suitable for using a LWT. Too many steps.

Also, if I was to use one, my work partner would view it as a green light to load me up like a donkey. He has form.

But aside from all that, you are still pushing or pulling the weight and you legs are still doing the miles.

This won’t stop anyone still coming back with, ‘Use a HCT!’
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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Barnacle wrote:
30 Dec 2022, 15:59

This won’t stop anyone still coming back with, ‘Use a HCT!’
If a duty isn't suitable for a HCT then it shouldn't have been planned using a HCT.
If a duty isn't suitable for a HCT then it is a van share with lwts.

If the duty isn't suitable for a lwt due to blocks of flats etc then there are H&S restrictions on the amount that can be carried in the blocks depending on the layout of the flats.
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Re: Cwu where are you 13 walks going

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We have just had 3 more long time full timers hand in their notice this week. We have lost about 12 FT long timers now in the past 6 months. Plenty of jobs in this area so people are going. Even the newbies are not lasting very long.