I concur. I think they're going to give us a chance to get some cash behind us again, and then the 2 days will commence. I don't think the union will allow momentum to ebb.
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Halfhappy
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Re: What now
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Halfhappy
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Re: What now
I get the frustration, but the union have said right from the start that we're in this for the long haul. They have repeatedly said this, DW even said we'd keep going till next Christmas. It's just been an opinion of posties that Christmas is the the only leverage we have. Long term disruption is what any business cannot sustain.toonshola wrote: ↑28 Dec 2022, 19:13It’s all over. The union thought the strikes during Christmas would make Royal Mail fold and make a somewhat decent agreement. They didn’t and now the union don’t have a clue what to do next. If Royal Mail didn’t back down during Christmas then they never will, they are hell bent on these disastrous business wrecking changes and nothing is going to stop them.
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worktotime
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Re: What now
i think the biggest frustration is thompson and his cronies will just push there unagreed change through regardless and it will be the members mentally and physically will be suffering until the CWU come up with another plan of attack.Halfhappy wrote: ↑28 Dec 2022, 19:39I get the frustration, but the union have said right from the start that we're in this for the long haul. They have repeatedly said this, DW even said we'd keep going till next Christmas. It's just been an opinion of posties that Christmas is the the only leverage we have. Long term disruption is what any business cannot sustain.toonshola wrote: ↑28 Dec 2022, 19:13It’s all over. The union thought the strikes during Christmas would make Royal Mail fold and make a somewhat decent agreement. They didn’t and now the union don’t have a clue what to do next. If Royal Mail didn’t back down during Christmas then they never will, they are hell bent on these disastrous business wrecking changes and nothing is going to stop them.
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cod
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Re: What now
I think the plan of attack is quite simple, if they push changes we just do our jobs as per the book and those changes won't last long, zero good will, work to your times, take your brakes, strike action is one way we bring the fight to them there are others, its not just about Christmas, as has been said long term IA is what's needed, that may be strikes or overtime bans, or work to rule, don't forget on the ballot it says industrial action up to and including strikes, our best weapon and our strength is in our union, and I don't mean THE union, I mean us sticking together and seeing this through, that is what keeps scabby lip awake at night and all his minions, I'm sure they probably thought they would've broken our resolve by now but they haven't, so stay strong and keep the faith
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Halfhappy
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Re: What now
Nailed it, mate.cod wrote: ↑28 Dec 2022, 20:28I think the plan of attack is quite simple, if they push changes we just do our jobs as per the book and those changes won't last long, zero good will, work to your times, take your brakes, strike action is one way we bring the fight to them there are others, its not just about Christmas, as has been said long term IA is what's needed, that may be strikes or overtime bans, or work to rule, don't forget on the ballet it says industrial action up to and including strikes, our best weapon and our strength is in our union, and I don't mean THE union, I mean us sticking together and seeing this through, that is what keeps scabby lip awake at night and all his minions, I'm sure they probably thought they would've broken our resolve by now but they haven't, so stay strong and keep the faith
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daveyeff
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Re: What now
The union is NOT f****d until its f****d. We have to keep this dispute going, it is totally correct to say no company can survive long term disruption, cos that is a fact. We keep going for as long as it takes or fold and let them destroy the company, our jobs, and our livelihoods. Or it will have all been for nothing.
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Eduardo
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Re: What now
The next move in our place will be revisions.
Whether the Union is involved or not remains to be seen.
Whether things like seniority are still used remains to be seen.
The next big pointer as far as we are concerned will be how much notice management pay to Union voices regarding the allocating of duties.
Ours is a big place and lots of people will be involved in the next revision exercise.
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Whether the Union is involved or not remains to be seen.
Whether things like seniority are still used remains to be seen.
The next big pointer as far as we are concerned will be how much notice management pay to Union voices regarding the allocating of duties.
Ours is a big place and lots of people will be involved in the next revision exercise.
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SMS1969
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Re: What now
I think if the worst happens then we should start being very awkward with the van checks. Not many vans are in good shape, I’m sure we can find something in most of them to keep them off the road.
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Wolf91
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Re: What now
Completely missing the point. Christmas is not as important as you think. Continued action causes distrust between RM and their customers, that’s what hits them hardest. Obviously it’s busier at Christmas but it’s generally busy all year round. If they can’t trust RM they will permanently move their business to other couriers. This is the most damaging factor for RM without a shadow of a doubt.toonshola wrote: ↑28 Dec 2022, 19:13It’s all over. The union thought the strikes during Christmas would make Royal Mail fold and make a somewhat decent agreement. They didn’t and now the union don’t have a clue what to do next. If Royal Mail didn’t back down during Christmas then they never will, they are hell bent on these disastrous business wrecking changes and nothing is going to stop them.
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lobsterhands
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Re: What now
I hope the union realise if the next ballot is a postal one, ( which obviously it will be ) 16/17 Jan I stand corrected if wrong then how they expect it to get it through to the members because if my office is anything to go by there’s at least 30 Yorks of mail from 2+ weeks ago still to be sorted. In our office at least we’ll be delivering Xmas cards in February so ballot paper will not arrive for then.
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ihatedogs
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Re: What now
Can't disagree with this.toonshola wrote: ↑28 Dec 2022, 19:13It’s all over. The union thought the strikes during Christmas would make Royal Mail fold and make a somewhat decent agreement. They didn’t and now the union don’t have a clue what to do next. If Royal Mail didn’t back down during Christmas then they never will, they are hell bent on these disastrous business wrecking changes and nothing is going to stop them.
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portadown
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Re: What now
Wee all need to wait on Simon and his mates coming back from there Christmas and new year holidays before wee peasants can ask for more money to feed are family s I'm just glad there's no work houses theses days
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thefox
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Surreypostie
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Re: What now
By law we have to ballot again by sometime in mid february. Imagine the scenario, we strike 2 days a week and the ballot papers go out, we all know there is a backlog, the ballot papers get held up, many are not delivered in time and not returned, we fail to hit the tory anti union threshold and the strikes are over. Be careful what you wish for.
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post6675
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Re: What now
Heres what will happen , the union will now wait for the next ballot, Meanwhile a lot fo people wil get as much OT as possible and clear the backlog and service back to normal all whilst RM push through their changes. The ballot comes back successfull but no where near the support as the first and workforce massively divided