Same here don't worry about it and we will win here is a site:https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/ ... 0new%20job.
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CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.
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k979aaa
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.
Well there’s ~350 parcel hubs, 30+ MCs, 6 RDC plus NWH, a load of VOCs, VSWs and perhaps 3 PSC (agency only?) that would’ve been open so that’s quite a fair few people who’s normal place of work would’ve been open.Pidleypoo wrote: ↑23 Dec 2022, 09:57Ours was closed too and I suspect the union knew about this caveat.
It’s a total legal minefield and I did wonder why no more strikes were announced and know we know why.
Remember rm saying if you worked on strike days it would be at a mail centre/parcel hub.
There are announcements from rm stating offices would be shut too.
Everyone relax.
Add to that people on more recent contracts who id imagine (I’m guessing here) will have contracts that state they can be asked to work at another site within reasonable distance even at the best of times, let alone during a strike with usual place of work shut.
I’m passed the idea that RM will full on sack everybody. No matter how nasty it gets, they wouldn’t.
However the undisputed fact remains you have weaker legal protections and you are in breach of contract - allowing for the legalities/clauses mentioned by others.
There’s a risk RM may try something different, as they have shown so far.
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.
Could they issue everyone with a maximum disciplinary warning though and anyone who currently has any disciplinary points hanging over them be shown the door?
Like you I doubt they would swing the axe on 100,000 staff but wonder if they could try and skim 10,000 or so?
Like you I doubt they would swing the axe on 100,000 staff but wonder if they could try and skim 10,000 or so?
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Clappedoutpostie
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.
Is this true?Surreypostie wrote: ↑23 Dec 2022, 12:39I heard today that managers are to be balloted again as everything they were promised has failed to happen.
We will stay out till midnight here to clear if they are on the gate the way they have behaved these last few months.
Solidarity
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I have just read 14 pages of cowardice and selfishness! I am a financially struggling single parent and I will be on strike on the 24th along with everyone else who cares about their job, their future and the futures of their co-workers and friends! To everyone on here that is trying to convince yourself and others that it is in anyway acceptable to go and work for Simon on the 24th, Please stop using this 12 week thing as an excuse for going into work, just admit that you are scared and week minded and are looking for any excuse to take the easy way out and look after yourself regardless of the impact on your colleagues! 
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FilthyBloke
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I’m not scared or weak minded.cynophobia wrote: ↑24 Dec 2022, 00:13I have just read 14 pages of cowardice and selfishness! I am a financially struggling single parent and I will be on strike on the 24th along with everyone else who cares about their job, their future and the futures of their co-workers and friends! To everyone on here that is trying to convince yourself and others that it is in anyway acceptable to go and work for Simon on the 24th, Please stop using this 12 week thing as an excuse for going into work, just admit that you are scared and week minded and are looking for any excuse to take the easy way out and look after yourself regardless of the impact on your colleagues!![]()
You are a financially struggling single parent and you are putting your kid second priority?
Each to their own.
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.
IF AND ONLY if they sack one of us they would have to sack everyone including the strike brakers so your telling me they could get artic class 1 drivers and class 2 and 7.5 tonne drivers and all the people who operate their machines and the rest of us dream on it will never happen.
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My children are my first priority and I will teach them to stand up for themselves, that is why I am willing to fight for my pay and my terms and conditions whilst others are too scared and teach their children to stab their colleagues in the back! 
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cynophobia wrote: ↑24 Dec 2022, 00:26My children are my first priority and I will teach them to stand up for themselves, that is why I am willing to fight for my pay and my terms and conditions whilst others are too scared and teach their children to stab their colleagues in the back!![]()
These colleagues who will turn their back on you and ignore you forever if, for whatever reason, you feel you have no choice but to go in?
Like I said each to their own.
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.
Well said.. Each to their own! Regardless of what happens in this dispute and how each individual feels I wish you and your family well and hope you have a wonderful Christmas!
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I will try!cynophobia wrote: ↑24 Dec 2022, 01:11Well said.. Each to their own! Regardless of what happens in this dispute and how each individual feels I wish you and your family well and hope you have a wonderful Christmas!
It’s over in a flash and then we can all relax again!
But Same to you. Enjoy the festivities!
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A lot of common good on this site lets hope this acrimonious dispute is over soon next year on the right terms and god bless you all.
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.
I started in the early 2000s and without digging out my contract and reading through it, I've a feeling that being able to work in any RM office within a reasonable distance was in my contract
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.
Well I was thinking of going in today and have just spent fifteen minutes looking at the CWU twitter feed with all the pictures of various picket lines around the country and it made me realise that I am part of something bigger than just myself.
I'll take the risk and face the consequences in the name of solidarity.
And try to put it out of my mind over the festive season.
Here's to solidarity.
I'll take the risk and face the consequences in the name of solidarity.
And try to put it out of my mind over the festive season.
Here's to solidarity.
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Re: CWU : The 12 week sacking thing if on strike.
Look at the PR fallout P&O ferries got for replacing all their staff. People even now will still not use P&O ferries for how they treated their staff I’ve even seen P&O cruises put out statements saying they aren’t the same company.
Apart from the Tory anti union brigade the majority of people support us in this dispute. If Royal Mail decided to sack us all overnight the PR damage would be like P&O but many times worse.
No way do they replace us all have a business that actually works don’t be intimidated by the scare tactics and stay strong
Apart from the Tory anti union brigade the majority of people support us in this dispute. If Royal Mail decided to sack us all overnight the PR damage would be like P&O but many times worse.
No way do they replace us all have a business that actually works don’t be intimidated by the scare tactics and stay strong