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POSTMAN wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 17:28
Please let us know where you're watching from.
https://twitter.com/CWUnews/status/1602 ... gr%5Etweet
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Kenfandango wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 16:49
Facebook, Twitter and YouTube. "Updating our members before tomorrows strike action" doesn't sound too promising in the way of "updates."

Put your messages in the comments, show them how strong you are, fight of our lives etc etc... Be nice to see them looking a bit animated for once instead of staring at the screens as though they're watching snuff movies of their childhood pets
Not on youtube at 5:30
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Also live here on YouTube (and recording later):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlBWhMc ... el=CWULive
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well said dave !
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And Andy of course - we can NEVER trust Thompson and co i think we all know that , got to be strong now and see it out !
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Though I took the piss a bit they did seem quite a lot more animated... Will this shareholder meeting actually happen do we think?
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Dave Ward keeps saying 'Royal Mail want to end the service'......

.... but what does that actually mean? he never explains what exactly that looks like and how Royal Mail would even get away with doing that....

There is a USO. Is Dave saying that Royal Mail are just going to ignore their obligations, even more than they already do....

How can they get away with it. Surely the USO in some form needs to exist and be abided by. So does Dave think Royal Mail will pass the USO & letters onto someone else ie. the government?

or is Dave saying that Royal Mail will do whatever they like and the government won't care?
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I feel like we are getting a bit desperate now, offering to call off the strikes and RM saying no , i feel like Royal Mail know they can withstand the strikes and then in January all our leverage has gone and job losses come
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post6675 wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 18:36
I feel like we are getting a bit desperate now, offering to call off the strikes and RM saying no , i feel like Royal Mail know they can withstand the strikes and then in January all our leverage has gone and job losses come
They ain't having any type of agreement. Been obvious for months.

We rather win or we lose. There is no middle ground.

Agree with those fools and we'll be stuck with their bollocks forever.
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post6675 wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 18:36
I feel like we are getting a bit desperate now, offering to call off the strikes and RM saying no , i feel like Royal Mail know they can withstand the strikes and then in January all our leverage has gone and job losses come
The CWU also aren't making it clear what scenario they see happening with job losses. Sometimes I am not sure if it's literally that Royal Mail will get rid of all of us if they can or if it's mainly going to be Caller's Counter and those mail centres up north that have been listed....

They have mentioned about the possibility of about 4,000 job losses if we went to a 5 day service....but what are the chances Royal Mail even get the go-ahead for that.


From a 'just thinking of myself' point of view....

-I am down south so those job losses up north wouldn't effect me.

-I am a postie - not a callers counter worker.

-I am in an office which has stated no redundancies will happen. It's also a big office in a large town - which probably helps my cause.

-I have about 25+ people behind me in seniority.

-We are understaffed by about 30 people.


.....So I would assume my job is pretty safe....but I don't really know.
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Cwu offered RM a deal too call off strikes etc and they rejected it.
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Re: CWU live at 5.30

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norris9 wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 18:33
Dave Ward keeps saying 'Royal Mail want to end the service'......

.... but what does that actually mean? he never explains what exactly that looks like and how Royal Mail would even get away with doing that....

There is a USO. Is Dave saying that Royal Mail are just going to ignore their obligations, even more than they already do....

How can they get away with it. Surely the USO in some form needs to exist and be abided by. So does Dave think Royal Mail will pass the USO & letters onto someone else ie. the government?

or is Dave saying that Royal Mail will do whatever they like and the government won't care?
It's clear they no longer want to deliver mail, they have said it many times.
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A2B wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 19:11
norris9 wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 18:33
Dave Ward keeps saying 'Royal Mail want to end the service'......

.... but what does that actually mean? he never explains what exactly that looks like and how Royal Mail would even get away with doing that....

There is a USO. Is Dave saying that Royal Mail are just going to ignore their obligations, even more than they already do....

How can they get away with it. Surely the USO in some form needs to exist and be abided by. So does Dave think Royal Mail will pass the USO & letters onto someone else ie. the government?

or is Dave saying that Royal Mail will do whatever they like and the government won't care?
It's clear they no longer want to deliver mail, they have said it many times.
ok, well great!...

so what does that mean.....

How is mail going to be passed on and who to?

As I keep saying - I'll be open to working as a Postie for the government even if I was on current pay and terms.
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norris9 wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 19:14
A2B wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 19:11
norris9 wrote:
13 Dec 2022, 18:33
Dave Ward keeps saying 'Royal Mail want to end the service'......

.... but what does that actually mean? he never explains what exactly that looks like and how Royal Mail would even get away with doing that....

There is a USO. Is Dave saying that Royal Mail are just going to ignore their obligations, even more than they already do....

How can they get away with it. Surely the USO in some form needs to exist and be abided by. So does Dave think Royal Mail will pass the USO & letters onto someone else ie. the government?

or is Dave saying that Royal Mail will do whatever they like and the government won't care?
It's clear they no longer want to deliver mail, they have said it many times.
ok, well great!...

so what does that mean.....

How is mail going to be passed on and who to?

As I keep saying - I'll be open to working as a Postie for the government even if I was on current pay and terms.
ditto