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Saturday Telegraph Money section article - RM slated

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nikrad
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Post by nikrad »

And yet just make sure you collect from that box at 12:30 pm, even though you have driven past it hours ago! We wouldn’t want to miss that valuable b’day card that old Mrs Dreary posted. Only for it to be stuck in a frame a week later.
Hyrrokkin
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Post by Hyrrokkin »

norris9 wrote:
11 Dec 2022, 09:29
The postal meltdown has led to missed hospital appointments, lost bank cards and collapsed court cases..

Ofcom has failed the nation.

The government has failed the nation.

Royal Mail has failed the nation.


Leaving the strikes to one side - Royal Mail have been significantly understaffing us for over a year. Royal Mail 100% prioritise tracked parcels over anything else. We have always been told 'If you are going to struggle to complete - make sure you clear the tracked and bring back mail'. It is never said to us to 'clear any large tracked so we have more room at the office'.... it's always 'all tracked'.


When will Ofcom and the government open its eyes to what Royal Mail is doing!!! Many businesses and major services are struggling because of Royal Mail's contempt for the service it's supposed to provide.
Ofcom know exactly what RM are doing...they know full well they are lying
Ofcom are fully complicit - always have been
Sbutts8182
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Post by Sbutts8182 »

5 years ago it was Streamlining, make sure 1st class goes and all the packets.
4 years ago it was make sure all the packets go
3 years ago it was make sure all packets with a 2d barcode and tracked go
2 years ago make sure all the tracked go
Now, make sure the tracked 24 go, don’t scan in anything you’re not going to take.

Letters have been treated as 4th class for a long time in the offices I’ve worked in. It’s no wonder they are declining.
Halfhappy
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Post by Halfhappy »

Sbutts8182 wrote:
11 Dec 2022, 18:30
5 years ago it was Streamlining, make sure 1st class goes and all the packets.
4 years ago it was make sure all the packets go
3 years ago it was make sure all packets with a 2d barcode and tracked go
2 years ago make sure all the tracked go
Now, make sure the tracked 24 go, don’t scan in anything you’re not going to take.

Letters have been treated as 4th class for a long time in the offices I’ve worked in. It’s no wonder they are declining.
You forgot 30 year ago it was 9:30am last letter.
nuisance
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Hyrrokkin wrote:
11 Dec 2022, 16:57
Ofcom know exactly what RM are doing...they know full well they are lying
Ofcom are fully complicit - always have been
Maybe, like me, they naively believed that the pitiful reduction in standards was a temporary thing, if not truely due to covid, milking it when the opportunity presented itself. I never imagined that Royal Mail would have the audacity to carry on with the wilful delay of mail once they didn't have covid as a legitimate excuse for shoddy service. Ofcom might have been caught off guard as I genuinely have been.
walthmstowman
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Post by walthmstowman »

nuisance wrote:
11 Dec 2022, 19:29
Hyrrokkin wrote:
11 Dec 2022, 16:57
Ofcom know exactly what RM are doing...they know full well they are lying
Ofcom are fully complicit - always have been
Maybe, like me, they naively believed that the pitiful reduction in standards was a temporary thing, if not truely due to covid, milking it when the opportunity presented itself. I never imagined that Royal Mail would have the audacity to carry on with the wilful delay of mail once they didn't have covid as a legitimate excuse for shoddy service. Ofcom might have been caught off guard as I genuinely have been.
Ofcom have to pull their figure out over this and investigate it
TopperGas
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Post by TopperGas »

Sbutts8182 wrote:
11 Dec 2022, 18:30
5 years ago it was Streamlining, make sure 1st class goes and all the packets.
4 years ago it was make sure all the packets go
3 years ago it was make sure all packets with a 2d barcode and tracked go
2 years ago make sure all the tracked go
Now, make sure the tracked 24 go, don’t scan in anything you’re not going to take.

Letters have been treated as 4th class for a long time in the offices I’ve worked in. It’s no wonder they are declining.
Pretty sure they are declining as virtually everything has moved online, if we stopped delivering all the "junk" mail we could probably deliver the mail customers actually want, NHS, HMRC, DVLC and bank letters etc just once or twice a week.
arsenalbob
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Post by arsenalbob »

For the past month at least we’ve been told to clear all parcels and whatever Mail we can. But on Saturday there was a complete backtrack. Deliver all mail in your frame but don’t take out a single parcel, whether it’s tracked or not. f**k knows what the plan is for the morning with most of our walks covered in snow.
FirstPost
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arsenalbob wrote:
11 Dec 2022, 20:49
For the past month at least we’ve been told to clear all parcels and whatever Mail we can. But on Saturday there was a complete backtrack. Deliver all mail in your frame but don’t take out a single parcel, whether it’s tracked or not. f**k knows what the plan is for the morning with most of our walks covered in snow.
What happened to the tracked?
arsenalbob
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Post by arsenalbob »

FirstPost wrote:
11 Dec 2022, 20:58
arsenalbob wrote:
11 Dec 2022, 20:49
For the past month at least we’ve been told to clear all parcels and whatever Mail we can. But on Saturday there was a complete backtrack. Deliver all mail in your frame but don’t take out a single parcel, whether it’s tracked or not. f**k knows what the plan is for the morning with most of our walks covered in snow.
What happened to the tracked?
It was scanned into the office but none of it went out. Whether they had agency staff in today clearing it I do not know.
jessicarabbit
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Post by jessicarabbit »

Saturday is not a USO day for parcels. They can get a Sunday crew in and clear all the parcels and not report a failure. Lies, damned lies and statistics....
Hyrrokkin
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Post by Hyrrokkin »

nuisance wrote:
11 Dec 2022, 19:29
Hyrrokkin wrote:
11 Dec 2022, 16:57
Ofcom know exactly what RM are doing...they know full well they are lying
Ofcom are fully complicit - always have been
Maybe, like me, they naively believed that the pitiful reduction in standards was a temporary thing, if not truely due to covid, milking it when the opportunity presented itself. I never imagined that Royal Mail would have the audacity to carry on with the wilful delay of mail once they didn't have covid as a legitimate excuse for shoddy service. Ofcom might have been caught off guard as I genuinely have been.
There has been a deliberate standard policy of wilful delay of mail country wide by RM for years...from the top down this has been the mantra dressed up as operational needs,covid etc etc

They cannot use covid as their cover up excuse any more.
We see in MC's and D.O's the corruption and lies every day - this comes from the RM board right down COM/DOM
Ofcom are not naive they KNOW EXACTLY what has been happening and are fully involved in these lies
SpacePhoenix
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

jessicarabbit wrote:
11 Dec 2022, 21:03
Saturday is not a USO day for parcels. They can get a Sunday crew in and clear all the parcels and not report a failure. Lies, damned lies and statistics....
Yes and no. A good chunk of what we send out to DOs as parcels are technically large letters
bluempl
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Post by bluempl »

norris9 wrote:
11 Dec 2022, 09:29
The postal meltdown has led to missed hospital appointments, lost bank cards and collapsed court cases..

Ofcom has failed the nation.

The government has failed the nation.

Royal Mail has failed the nation.


Leaving the strikes to one side - Royal Mail have been significantly understaffing us for over a year. Royal Mail 100% prioritise tracked parcels over anything else. We have always been told 'If you are going to struggle to complete - make sure you clear the tracked and bring back mail'. It is never said to us to 'clear any large tracked so we have more room at the office'.... it's always 'all tracked'.


When will Ofcom and the government open its eyes to what Royal Mail is doing!!! Many businesses and major services are struggling because of Royal Mail's contempt for the service it's supposed to provide.
:thumbup

IMO the CWU should put a full page ad in the newspapers detailing Royal Mail's failures to provide the service they're obliged to. Expose their lies and tell the public the truth!!!
walthmstowman
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Post by walthmstowman »

That's actually quite a good idea :Applause