24th

[Halfhappy]

The law say's he can do it, you wouldn't actually be out of a job, firing 115,000 workers is not very practical, if he does anything he will present you a new contract. Am I worried? Not in the slightest, There is a legal process where you can sign it under protest and the dispute goes on. Anyone who thinks 115,000 people will get their P45 on the 24th and worrying over nothing.

Being given one of the new contracts seriously your not bothered,we’ve been striking for a few extra pounds and we stand to loose 20% pay

Seriously yes, I'm not even slightly bothered. There is nothing I can do to change the situation, if he does he does and if he doesn't great. He himself has said, there will be no fire and rehire. So no, I am not even slightly bothered. I am not going to give myself stress worrying about something that may or may not happen. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt etc.

Oh, and I no longer know to be quite honest what I am striking for, when I voted yes for IA it was to get a no strings payrise. Now it has turned into No compulsory redundancies. I wish I knew what the union was prepared to put infront of us to vote on. I have no idea.

I can understand this. It seems every punch this CEO throws at us, galvinises us more. Every blow just puts us closer to feeling like we've nothing more to lose. If he was to do this, I think the all out strike wouldn't be so unimaginable anymore.

[walthmstowman]

The law say's he can do it, you wouldn't actually be out of a job, firing 115,000 workers is not very practical, if he does anything he will present you a new contract. Am I worried? Not in the slightest, There is a legal process where you can sign it under protest and the dispute goes on. Anyone who thinks 115,000 people will get their P45 on the 24th and worrying over nothing.

Being given one of the new contracts seriously your not bothered,we’ve been striking for a few extra pounds and we stand to loose 20% pay

Seriously yes, I'm not even slightly bothered. There is nothing I can do to change the situation, if he does he does and if he doesn't great. He himself has said, there will be no fire and rehire. So no, I am not even slightly bothered. I am not going to give myself stress worrying about something that may or may not happen. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt etc.

Oh, and I no longer know to be quite honest what I am striking for, when I voted yes for IA it was to get a no strings payrise. Now it has turned into No compulsory redundancies. I wish I knew what the union was prepared to put infront of us to vote on. I have no idea.

Well they certainly can't put a surrender document in front of us .

[Surreypostie]

The law say's he can do it, you wouldn't actually be out of a job, firing 115,000 workers is not very practical, if he does anything he will present you a new contract. Am I worried? Not in the slightest, There is a legal process where you can sign it under protest and the dispute goes on. Anyone who thinks 115,000 people will get their P45 on the 24th and worrying over nothing.

Being given one of the new contracts seriously your not bothered,we’ve been striking for a few extra pounds and we stand to loose 20% pay

Seriously yes, I'm not even slightly bothered. There is nothing I can do to change the situation, if he does he does and if he doesn't great. He himself has said, there will be no fire and rehire. So no, I am not even slightly bothered. I am not going to give myself stress worrying about something that may or may not happen. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt etc.

Oh, and I no longer know to be quite honest what I am striking for, when I voted yes for IA it was to get a no strings payrise. Now it has turned into No compulsory redundancies. I wish I knew what the union was prepared to put infront of us to vote on. I have no idea.

Well they certainly can't put a surrender document in front of us .

See I have a real problem with terms like 'Surrender document' It is, 'The final and Best offer' It is an unacceptable offer to us, the point still stands, I no longer know what I am trying to achieve. Back when we voted it was for a no strings payrise, we have already lost that one. Now, I am going to get more strings than pinnochio attached to me.

I have got to the stage where I no longer care, I will be out of the job soon and the reason I decided to go is all this political bullshit.

'Surrender document' Facebook lives and Webbs, click if you like this, type that bullshit in the comments. It's not a f*****g game to us. So I am prepared to leave and take a job that pays less, I will also have to work alternate weekends and with 12 hours shifts I will be working until it is dark, although not out in the street. See, later starts, sundays don't bother me in the slightest, for me they are not an issue but I don't have a young family and kids to pick up from school. I did once so I understand that these things are important to others.

So as I said, I no longer have any idea what is acceptable to our union leaders to put to us as quite clearly, we are not going to get what I voted for, a no strings payrise.

[walthmstowman]

Just purely out of curiosity what job are you moving to ?

[Surreypostie]

Going to work with vulnerable adults in social care, the background checks take a while then I will be gone, hopefully mid january by the time I give my notice, good job I don't have to post it, would never get there.

[koolishy67]

At the moment 9-10 people crossing Picket line in our office but 23 and 24 around 40-50 thinking to cross now

[norris9]

At the moment 9-10 people crossing Picket line in our office but 23 and 24 around 40-50 thinking to cross now

Husbands had enough of their wives that they need to get out the house?

[walthmstowman]

Going to work with vulnerable adults in social care, the background checks take a while then I will be gone, hopefully mid january by the time I give my notice, good job I don't have to post it, would never get there.

My best wishes for the future . That's a very worthwhile occupation.

[walthmstowman]

At the moment 9-10 people crossing Picket line in our office but 23 and 24 around 40-50 thinking to cross now

Just remind them their jobs are on the line .

[TopperGas]

At the moment 9-10 people crossing Picket line in our office but 23 and 24 around 40-50 thinking to cross now

Just remind them their jobs are on the line .

It all depends where they work if they work in a busy DO with vacancies and staff already seeking VR they're jobs are pretty secure, if they still aren't no amount of IA is going to save them. Regardless we never balloted for IA to save jobs it was over pay & T&C's.

[TopperGas]

The law say's he can do it, you wouldn't actually be out of a job, firing 115,000 workers is not very practical, if he does anything he will present you a new contract. Am I worried? Not in the slightest, There is a legal process where you can sign it under protest and the dispute goes on. Anyone who thinks 115,000 people will get their P45 on the 24th and worrying over nothing.

Being given one of the new contracts seriously your not bothered,we’ve been striking for a few extra pounds and we stand to loose 20% pay

Seriously yes, I'm not even slightly bothered. There is nothing I can do to change the situation, if he does he does and if he doesn't great. He himself has said, there will be no fire and rehire. So no, I am not even slightly bothered. I am not going to give myself stress worrying about something that may or may not happen. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt etc.

Oh, and I no longer know to be quite honest what I am striking for, when I voted yes for IA it was to get a no strings payrise. Now it has turned into No compulsory redundancies. I wish I knew what the union was prepared to put infront of us to vote on. I have no idea.

Well they certainly can't put a surrender document in front of us .

See I have a real problem with terms like 'Surrender document' It is, 'The final and Best offer' It is an unacceptable offer to us, the point still stands, I no longer know what I am trying to achieve. Back when we voted it was for a no strings payrise, we have already lost that one. Now, I am going to get more strings than pinnochio attached to me.

I have got to the stage where I no longer care, I will be out of the job soon and the reason I decided to go is all this political bullshit.

'Surrender document' Facebook lives and Webbs, click if you like this, type that bullshit in the comments. It's not a f*****g game to us. So I am prepared to leave and take a job that pays less, I will also have to work alternate weekends and with 12 hours shifts I will be working until it is dark, although not out in the street. See, later starts, sundays don't bother me in the slightest, for me they are not an issue but I don't have a young family and kids to pick up from school. I did once so I understand that these things are important to others.

So as I said, I no longer have any idea what is acceptable to our union leaders to put to us as quite clearly, we are not going to get what I voted for, a no strings payrise.

According to this interview given by DW it's simply a straight 9% pay rise and changes to the proposed T&C's there being no mention of CR etc.

https://news.sky.com/video/royal-mail-s ... t-12764560

If that's all the union want it's hard to understand why something can't be agreed.

[qwerty2]

Pissed off with people at my office who are saying that they will be going in on 23rd & 24th as they don’t think it’s fair on their customers not to be receiving post on those dates. Looking at those saying it I’m not so sure that they’re actually more worried about collecting up the last of their tips.

I have said to them that I doubt very much they’ll be delivering their usual walks as they’ll be out across the office doing Tracked & Specials to which they’ve coughed & spluttered saying that they’ll try and persuade the boss to let them concentrate on their own walks!!

Braindead

[chickenwittle]

At the moment 9-10 people crossing Picket line in our office but 23 and 24 around 40-50 thinking to cross now

Just remind them their jobs are on the line .

It all depends where they work if they work in a busy DO with vacancies and staff already seeking VR they're jobs are pretty secure, if they still aren't no amount of IA is going to save them. Regardless we never balloted for IA to save jobs it was over pay & T&C's.

What’s with all this I don’t know what I’m striking for stuff ? Thompson has morphed this into a worse situation than it was at the start . It’s him that has added all the extras like compulsory redundancy, full and final offer nonsense and lies about the % of a pay rise , stop making lame excuses, of course things have changed and that’s down to our clown of a CEO.

[derekm]

At the moment 9-10 people crossing Picket line in our office but 23 and 24 around 40-50 thinking to cross now

this is what Thompson hopes for that people will crack and eventually go back to work. IMHO I think he thought during the cost of living crisis going on the dispute would end quickly because people can't afford to strike

[RTP]

There is a Claus (get the pun) in this particular law that states that the 12 weeks can be extended by a max of 10 days if you are locked out of your workplace. Given that most delivery offices have been closed on strike days, then that should apply if I'm reading it right, but it might not to Mail Centres and lorry drivers ect.