Will ask for the second time
Where does it state in the TULRCA 1992 that when an employer enters the dispiute resolution process, it then cancels out the 12 week obligation with legal protections.
As in section/sub section of the statutory act?
For the record ACAS has no statutory powers to take precedent over Parliament being advisory.
"I'll tell you a story it's on a record ... on a record .... on a record"!
Are all you Trolls meeting up for a Christmas Party? Because you all seem to be coming out of the woodwork. Is there any connection with posters with low numbers of posts spouting Pro ST BS?
You may very well be arguing a legal technicality to 3 decimal places, but I stood with 17500 fellow Union members yesterday and not one of them was worrying about your hair splitting BS. Have a Merry Christmas.
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
Now where in the mediation process with ACAS does it state Binding Arbitration is a condition of a reballot under the TULRCA 1992?
ACAS has no statutory powes to impose such terms
Now are the CWU going to answer the question members really want an answer as we are talking a two week deadline rather than playing Russian Roulette with their jobs?
dont worry as long as the judge is not from russia we will be fine.there is no way thompson can prove he has tried everything to resolve the situation,goading members and refusing to turn up even acas thinks hes a tw t ,the cwu legal team know a lot more than us,chill out and get yourself on the picket line,could you imagine the pressure on every MP if he was to sack 115000 people.Just get that ballot paper in and lets get a massive yes vote and show we wont be bullied anymore.
I don’t think they will re-ballot as there won’t be support for strikes in the new year. People have lost enough money already and if RM hold out till Christmas it will be pointless losing any more.
Do you think that the union will roll over? If they did, delivery staff will find themselves still out delivering after dark, potentially quite late and they'll have to deliver everything without the option of being able to cut off
You didn’t read the deal. The proposal was to work an extra 1 hour a week during winter and an hour less during the summer. I.e. no big deal frankly, but I don’t blame you for missing it, as the union pretty much kept it away from member’s prying eyes.
You are aware of the term "Legal Personality" I take it?
Acas decision is binding as a matter of law and has the same effect as a court judgment.
Best stop guessing and provide a credible reference source
So what was the ACAS decision then given that they have published one. I have not seen or read anything. If it is binding then surely they have to tell the parties involved to actually carry it out? Perhaps the decision was a 10% pay rise, limited changes in t&c . Do you know what was decided? In your formidable knowledge of employment law you must be able to find out. I will await your reply with interest as according to you the whole dispute and 115000 jobs hang in the balance.
You are aware of the term "Legal Personality" I take it?
Acas decision is binding as a matter of law and has the same effect as a court judgment.
Best stop guessing and provide a credible reference source
So what was the ACAS decision then given that they have published one. I have not seen or read anything. If it is binding then surely they have to tell the parties involved to actually carry it out? Perhaps the decision was a 10% pay rise, limited changes in t&c . Do you know what was decided? In your formidable knowledge of employment law you must be able to find out. I will await your reply with interest as according to you the whole dispute and 115000 jobs hang in the balance.
ACAS don't get to decide anything, they are there to help two opposing sides come together to settle a dispute. They are a bit like marriage guidance counsellors. RM would never go there if it was legally binding. They are part of the process.
Yeah I know. If it is binding there are clear terms of reference with each party agreeing beforehand to abide by the final decision. I could just see ST doing that.
You are aware of the term "Legal Personality" I take it?
Acas decision is binding as a matter of law and has the same effect as a court judgment.
Best stop guessing and provide a credible reference source
So what was the ACAS decision then given that they have published one. I have not seen or read anything. If it is binding then surely they have to tell the parties involved to actually carry it out? Perhaps the decision was a 10% pay rise, limited changes in t&c . Do you know what was decided? In your formidable knowledge of employment law you must be able to find out. I will await your reply with interest as according to you the whole dispute and 115000 jobs hang in the balance.
I think redlen meant (An) Acas decision is binding not that there had been one.....
Yeah I know. If it is binding there are clear terms of reference with each party agreeing beforehand to abide by the final decision. I could just see ST doing that.
My comment was aimed at the legal expert redlen. I think he is mistaking there role with employment tribunals, totally different to their role in our dispute. Not at all legally binding, as you say, no way would ST agree to that. There is no decision for them to make, they are arbitors, nothing more.
