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Royal Mail's plea to end six-day deliveries rejected

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/roya ... partnerize

The government has rejected a plea from Royal Mail to cut its legal obligation to deliver letters to businesses and homes from six days a week to five.

Previously unpublished correspondence with the government, obtained by The Times under the Freedom of Information Act, shows that Simon Thompson, chief executive of the heavily lossmaking Royal Mail, wrote to Kwasi Kwarteng, who was business secretary, in May asking for an end to its commitment to deliver on Saturdays.

Despite the rejection by Kwarteng of the request to reform the “universal service obligation”, the privatised postal network and letters monopoly has gone public, stating that without the go-ahead to change the way it operates, it faces financial ruin.


At the publication of losses of £219 million in the six months to the end of September, Royal Mail said relaxing its universal service commitment — enshrined in law at its privatisation in 2013 to deliver letters six days a week on the principle of one price goes anywhere — was now “urgent”.

Kwarteng, who became chancellor under Liz Truss for seven weeks, wrote back in June that “I understand that Paul Scully [who was the minister in charge of postal affairs] has been clear in his discussions with you that the case for change to the statutory framework has not been met”.
Some of the details of Thompson’s demands in the correspondence with Kwarteng were redacted before being released to The Times.
Thompson also complained that Royal Mail needed to “avoid being caught between Ofcom [the postal regulator] and the department with each saying the other is responsible”.

Although Thompson cited “commercial reasons” for reform, in reality Royal Mail’s financial woes are more deep-seated. Much of the losses this year, after a highly profitable 2021-22, are due to its failure to take its 140,000-strong workforce along with its plans to modernise. This has led to one-day strikes as the boom in home deliveries from online shopping during the pandemic restrictions ends.

Royal Mail confirmed that the company had gone public in its demands because of the change of personnel at the top of government and in the business department, with Grant Schapps now business secretary and Kevin Hollinrake the postal minister. Royal Mail said it could make a financial case — its deepening losses — and a customer case for reform of the universal obligation.

The company said customers were relaxed about postal deliveries going to five days, as witnessed by referencing a survey of postal users by Ofcom in 2020 and by the fact that sending letters is going out of fashion.

The habit has been in a steep decline for decades and has accelerated since the advent of email and smartphone messaging to a point at which it is now down 24 per cent on pre-pandemic levels.

The Royal Mail is understood to believe it is making headway with the business department, as its most recent parliamentary statements on reform of the universal delivery obligation used the phrase “no current plans”, compared with previous statements that said “no plans”.
One industry that is against the end of the six-day service is the Professional Publishers Association, which represents 200 publishing houses covering magazines from New Scientist and WhatCar? to Good Housekeeping, Vogue and Vanity Fair.

“This move will seriously impact long-established weekly magazine titles,” the publishers said. “This could lead to the closure of UK print editions and result in multimillion-pound losses due to cancelled subscriptions and reduced advertising revenues.”

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Re: Royal Mail’s plea to end six-day deliveries rejected

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Told you yesterday.
That means, tracked do not get preference over mail.
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That was in May though
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There is a process in place, to determine if the minimum requirements of the USO are financially sustainable.

OFCOM conduct periodic reviews, and then give a report. They concluded the 6 day service should stay till 2027.

This gives credence to the CWU's line, that Royal Mail finances are being grossly mismanaged by the Board.

We're regulated like a public service, but those in positions of power, are running us like we are not. The boom times, like the pandemic, should be used to offset the lean times. In order to maintain the service.

But what we get with this lot, is they privatise the profits, get them out the company as quickly as they can, and they want to socialise the losses. But since they can't do that, they will run the service into the ground.

Royal Mail will be just another failed Privatisation.
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Re: Royal Mail’s plea to end six-day deliveries rejected

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enskied wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 12:14
Told you yesterday.
That means, tracked do not get preference over mail.
In theory, in practice Tracked will take priority
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Re: Royal Mail’s plea to end six-day deliveries rejected

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 13:07
enskied wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 12:14
Told you yesterday.
That means, tracked do not get preference over mail.
In theory, in practice Tracked will take priority
Only if you let them bully you in to it
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Re: Royal Mail’s plea to end six-day deliveries rejected

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Murdoch wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 12:52
There is a process in place, to determine if the minimum requirements of the USO are financially sustainable.

OFCOM conduct periodic reviews, and then give a report. They concluded the 6 day service should stay till 2027.

This gives credence to the CWU's line, that Royal Mail finances are being grossly mismanaged by the Board.

We're regulated like a public service, but those in positions of power, are running us like we are not. The boom times, like the pandemic, should be used to offset the lean times. In order to maintain the service.

But what we get with this lot, is they privatise the profits, get them out the company as quickly as they can, and they want to socialise the losses. But since they can't do that, they will run the service into the ground.

Royal Mail will be just another failed Privatisation.
The agency still hasn't announced - I think - the results of their quality of service investigation. That was started back in May.

In any case, you have to wonder what the point is. Six days, five days, four days. No matter how many, the business still isn't going to staff up to run the USO properly. Every worker gone is £25,000 or so free and clear in their pocket.
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Re: Royal Mail’s plea to end six-day deliveries rejected

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enskied wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 13:22
SpacePhoenix wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 13:07
enskied wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 12:14
Told you yesterday.
That means, tracked do not get preference over mail.
In theory, in practice Tracked will take priority
Only if you let them bully you in to it
Surely if a manager tells you to prioritise tracked, you do? You have to follow any reasonable direction or face disciplinary proceedings as far as I know.
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Re: Royal Mail’s plea to end six-day deliveries rejected

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HairyHobbit wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 14:46
enskied wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 13:22
SpacePhoenix wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 13:07
enskied wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 12:14
Told you yesterday.
That means, tracked do not get preference over mail.
In theory, in practice Tracked will take priority
Only if you let them bully you in to it
Surely if a manager tells you to prioritise tracked, you do? You have to follow any reasonable direction or face disciplinary proceedings as far as I know.
Except, even Simon Thompson has said we do not prioritize tracked.
Sd's then first class the rest is as is.
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POSTMAN wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 10:40
The habit has been in a steep decline for decades and has accelerated since the advent of email and smartphone messaging to a point at which it is now down 24 per cent on pre-pandemic levels.
I decided to waste some time picking at this claim. E-mail has been around in some form since the 60s, but I decided on the adoption of the SMTP standard still in use today. As for smartphones, I selected the Blackberry Pearl as one of the earliest and best selling 'smartphones'. See below how you can prove anything with some powerpoint skills...
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HairyHobbit wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 14:46
enskied wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 13:22
SpacePhoenix wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 13:07
enskied wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 12:14
Told you yesterday.
That means, tracked do not get preference over mail.
In theory, in practice Tracked will take priority
Only if you let them bully you in to it
Surely if a manager tells you to prioritise tracked, you do? You have to follow any reasonable direction or face disciplinary proceedings as far as I know.
We've had people suspended in the last few weeks for not following a reasonable request to make sure tracked are delivered and bring mail back if need be
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Mr Rush wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 16:28
POSTMAN wrote:
18 Nov 2022, 10:40
The habit has been in a steep decline for decades and has accelerated since the advent of email and smartphone messaging to a point at which it is now down 24 per cent on pre-pandemic levels.
I decided to waste some time picking at this claim. E-mail has been around in some form since the 60s, but I decided on the adoption of the SMTP standard still in use today. As for smartphones, I selected the Blackberry Pearl as one of the earliest and best selling 'smartphones'. See below how you can prove anything with some powerpoint skills...
Interesting. Can you make a graph for letter (including large letters) for the last 5 years? As I personally disagree with the idea that mail volumes are falling rapidly now, the “lower hanging fruit” went a few years ago with the GDRP thing, but I am sure I deliver more letters, advertising catalogs and magazines than I did a few years back. Maybe it’s the change of area and the the round I am on.
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Re: Royal Mail's plea to end six-day deliveries rejected

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Mail volumes at highest level in two years

Richard Stuart-Turner
Wednesday, June 8, 2022

JICMail, the joint industry currency for ad mail, has released its data for Q1 2022, a period that saw mail volumes on the panel reach their highest level since Q1 2020.

https://www.printweek.com/news/article/ ... -two-years