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A plea to those working tomorrow

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adamanti
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

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Management have tried to put an agency worker with our pairing. I did not refuse and could not refuse for this person to come out in the van with us. However I asked our manager who would be organizing it all as the loops our coordinated for 2 person van share and pointed out that it was not my job to do this and asked why she thought I should. Her response it was because I am the most senior. I replied being the most senior doesn't pay anymore than less senior and that I am one of those people your CEO wants rid of. I also pointed out that I would only be looking after myself and ensuring I did my own job right. Special's, tracked, customer collection's, local collect, signed for, box collection. Consolidation, van check's etc etc etc. Missing any of these and it's in the office for investigation. So no will not be directing anyone as not my job.
Agency worker moved on. Result.
FilthyBloke
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by FilthyBloke »

adamanti wrote:
01 Dec 2022, 16:10
Management have tried to put an agency worker with our pairing. I did not refuse and could not refuse for this person to come out in the van with us. However I asked our manager who would be organizing it all as the loops our coordinated for 2 person van share and pointed out that it was not my job to do this and asked why she thought I should. Her response it was because I am the most senior. I replied being the most senior doesn't pay anymore than less senior and that I am one of those people your CEO wants rid of. I also pointed out that I would only be looking after myself and ensuring I did my own job right. Special's, tracked, customer collection's, local collect, signed for, box collection. Consolidation, van check's etc etc etc. Missing any of these and it's in the office for investigation. So no will not be directing anyone as not my job.
Agency worker moved on. Result.
Ah, so seniority is something you pick and choose when to use it?

Hmmm
Daver9
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by Daver9 »

:thumbup
GRS wrote:
01 Dec 2022, 15:09
I’ll be starting on my time, taking my full break, van checks etc etc, walking around at a nice steady pace that suits me and catching up with my customers. I will be completely milking the docket at the end of the duty and making them pay for my time. If you or any others don’t like me doing that ……tough! I’m not telling anyone else to do that, they can do what they want and what suits them. I don’t welcome people on here telling me what I will or won’t be doing tomorrow! We moan about bullying from the Board and managers and yet plenty on here and in the office think nothing of doing exactly the same by way of “do it my way or you’re a w****r”

Whatever does or doesn’t get cleared in a DO tomorrow will only be a tiny fraction of what’s in the system. The blockage will now not clear this side of Christmas,
sindba
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by sindba »

Yep I'll probably do an hour or so docket too, top up the strike fund.

It won't make a dent in the backlog anyway.
redlen
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by redlen »

adamanti wrote:
01 Dec 2022, 16:10
Management have tried to put an agency worker with our pairing. I did not refuse and could not refuse for this person to come out in the van with us. However I asked our manager who would be organizing it all as the loops our coordinated for 2 person van share and pointed out that it was not my job to do this and asked why she thought I should. Her response it was because I am the most senior. I replied being the most senior doesn't pay anymore than less senior and that I am one of those people your CEO wants rid of. I also pointed out that I would only be looking after myself and ensuring I did my own job right. Special's, tracked, customer collection's, local collect, signed for, box collection. Consolidation, van check's etc etc etc. Missing any of these and it's in the office for investigation. So no will not be directing anyone as not my job.
Agency worker moved on. Result.
So you are prepared for an agency worker to lose a days pay through intransigence?

And this is exactly what needs to change in Royal Mail and modernise with the "Not my job" Rhetoric.

This is the 21 century, not he 1970s

For all you know his family could be depending on that money. You are only losing one/two days pay a week, that could be all he has/had is a days pay
chickenwittle
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by chickenwittle »

redlen wrote:
01 Dec 2022, 18:44
adamanti wrote:
01 Dec 2022, 16:10
Management have tried to put an agency worker with our pairing. I did not refuse and could not refuse for this person to come out in the van with us. However I asked our manager who would be organizing it all as the loops our coordinated for 2 person van share and pointed out that it was not my job to do this and asked why she thought I should. Her response it was because I am the most senior. I replied being the most senior doesn't pay anymore than less senior and that I am one of those people your CEO wants rid of. I also pointed out that I would only be looking after myself and ensuring I did my own job right. Special's, tracked, customer collection's, local collect, signed for, box collection. Consolidation, van check's etc etc etc. Missing any of these and it's in the office for investigation. So no will not be directing anyone as not my job.
Agency worker moved on. Result.
So you are prepared for an agency worker to lose a days pay through intransigence?

And this is exactly what needs to change in Royal Mail and modernise with the "Not my job" Rhetoric.

This is the 21 century, not he 1970s

For all you know his family could be depending on that money. You are only losing one/two days pay a week, that could be all he has/had is a days pay
Your previous posts lead me to believe you either are a manager or would love to be one , it’s constant pro Royal Mail stuff from you .
49erman
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by 49erman »

chickenwittle wrote:
01 Dec 2022, 18:52
redlen wrote:
01 Dec 2022, 18:44
adamanti wrote:
01 Dec 2022, 16:10
Management have tried to put an agency worker with our pairing. I did not refuse and could not refuse for this person to come out in the van with us. However I asked our manager who would be organizing it all as the loops our coordinated for 2 person van share and pointed out that it was not my job to do this and asked why she thought I should. Her response it was because I am the most senior. I replied being the most senior doesn't pay anymore than less senior and that I am one of those people your CEO wants rid of. I also pointed out that I would only be looking after myself and ensuring I did my own job right. Special's, tracked, customer collection's, local collect, signed for, box collection. Consolidation, van check's etc etc etc. Missing any of these and it's in the office for investigation. So no will not be directing anyone as not my job.
Agency worker moved on. Result.
So you are prepared for an agency worker to lose a days pay through intransigence?

And this is exactly what needs to change in Royal Mail and modernise with the "Not my job" Rhetoric.

This is the 21 century, not he 1970s

For all you know his family could be depending on that money. You are only losing one/two days pay a week, that could be all he has/had is a days pay

Your previous posts lead me to believe you either are a manager or would love to be one , it’s constant pro Royal Mail stuff from you .


Exactly what I was thinking, always up for a wind up……. :thumbdown
redlen
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by redlen »

And what if I am a manager??

Still does not alter the facts

It is interesting though the default "He must be a manager" with anybody that has a difference of opinion as some kind of default programed insult as a deflection in avoiding responding to a comment.
chickenwittle
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by chickenwittle »

redlen wrote:
01 Dec 2022, 19:02
And what if I am a manager??

Still does not alter the facts

It is interesting though the default "He must be a manager" with anybody that has a difference of opinion as some kind of default programed insult as a deflection in avoiding responding to a comment.
If it was a one off comment that’s fine but only need to trawl through a few of your previous posts and it’s clear as day . You always go against the grain which is your choice of course but very strange if your not actually a manager.
hazzeem025
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by hazzeem025 »

redlen wrote:
01 Dec 2022, 18:44
adamanti wrote:
01 Dec 2022, 16:10
Management have tried to put an agency worker with our pairing. I did not refuse and could not refuse for this person to come out in the van with us. However I asked our manager who would be organizing it all as the loops our coordinated for 2 person van share and pointed out that it was not my job to do this and asked why she thought I should. Her response it was because I am the most senior. I replied being the most senior doesn't pay anymore than less senior and that I am one of those people your CEO wants rid of. I also pointed out that I would only be looking after myself and ensuring I did my own job right. Special's, tracked, customer collection's, local collect, signed for, box collection. Consolidation, van check's etc etc etc. Missing any of these and it's in the office for investigation. So no will not be directing anyone as not my job.
Agency worker moved on. Result.
So you are prepared for an agency worker to lose a days pay through intransigence?

And this is exactly what needs to change in Royal Mail and modernise with the "Not my job" Rhetoric.

This is the 21 century, not he 1970s

For all you know his family could be depending on that money. You are only losing one/two days pay a week, that could be all he has/had is a days pay
It doesn't say the agency worker lost a days work though does it? That's just you presuming. What about the 10,000 redundancies they want to make, while using 11,000 agency staff?? What's your take on that?
redlen
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by redlen »

Well for a start they are voluntary and over subscribed
POSTPERSON50
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by POSTPERSON50 »

Take the piss tomorrow. Bare minimum.

Go in right on time. Walk around the office like C3PO, get out on delivery as late as possible.

You haven't been paid for the backlog, prioritise exactly what they ask you to do.

Bring it back, clock out and enjoy your weekend.
timbo1234
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by timbo1234 »

redlen wrote:
01 Dec 2022, 19:02
And what if I am a manager??

Still does not alter the facts

It is interesting though the default "He must be a manager" with anybody that has a difference of opinion as some kind of default programed insult as a deflection in avoiding responding to a comment.
I do find your posts adopt an antagonistic tone. In the military people like you were known as barrack room lawyers. They knew a lot about very little and very little about a lot.
adamanti
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by adamanti »

The troll's are out.
Actually the agency worker never lost any pay, simply was moved to someone more accommodating. Shame really, she was very pretty girl, far better looking than myself or my partner!! 😉. And I did seek her out to explain it was nothing personal, just that RM management have become really petty and nasty in their treatment of us and that didn't inspire me to help out. 1 week in and she now understands what we have to put up with!
Edward Hunter
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Re: A plea to those working tomorrow

Post by Edward Hunter »

"Redlen" What a cunning name for a royal mail stooge :left: