RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

[walthmstowman]

Striking thru to next Christmas ? 2 days a week= £200, 52weeks a year = £10,000. Who can afford to lose that amount of money, I can't ( before you say it I'm not a manager )

You're getting paid £100 a day?

wtf.

It depends what allowances you receive, many Postal Workers will be earning £100 a day before tax.

That’s not how the poster meant it .It was implied that’s take home pay . There again I suspect you already knew that

[walthmstowman]

Im with Dave ,im ready for it,id rather be made compulsory redundant than except Thompson's offer,they need to get rid of him as he will be the man who overseen the biggest postal collapse the world has ever seen.

[milly]

Striking thru to next Christmas ? 2 days a week= £200, 52weeks a year = £10,000. Who can afford to lose that amount of money, I can't ( before you say it I'm not a manager )

You're getting paid £100 a day?

wtf.

It depends what allowances you receive, many Postal Workers will be earning £100 a day before tax.

That’s not how the poster meant it .It was implied that’s take home pay . There again I suspect you already knew that

Perhaps the Poster could clarify what they meant.
Common sense would indicate that they were referring to their pay before tax and NI.

[barcajr]

Ward should answer the question, come Xmas Eve, if it's true that it would be within RMs rights to sack strikers

[Clappedoutpostie]

Ward should answer the question, come Xmas Eve, if it's true that it would be within RMs rights to sack strikers

Have u contacted your branch to ask this question?

[TopperGas]

Ward should answer the question, come Xmas Eve, if it's true that it would be within RMs rights to sack strikers

Assuming they are will they really want to sack 100,000 strikers given they are getting enough bad publicity as it is already? What are they going to do after Christmas without any staff to deliver the mail?

[sindba]

Ward should answer the question, come Xmas Eve, if it's true that it would be within RMs rights to sack strikers

Assuming they are will they really want to sack 100,000 strikers given they are getting enough bad publicity as it is already? What are they going to do after Christmas without any staff to deliver the mail?

It's probably a bit of a red herring put about by the pro- Thompson posters on here. RMT were out for about 5 months before they had to re-ballot.

[grchpo]

Striking thru to next Christmas ? 2 days a week= £200, 52weeks a year = £10,000. Who can afford to lose that amount of money, I can't ( before you say it I'm not a manager )

You're getting paid £100 a day?

wtf.

About £35,000 a year on top to come out with £100 a day. No idea what that job is with RM, but if they can't afford to strike then they couldn't afford to be a postman.

Work it out. £500 per week, £495 to be exact, divide by 5 equals approx. £100 a day before tax. Don't know what you are on about £35,000, if I was getting that I wouldn't compllain
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[Schiff]

Striking thru to next Christmas ? 2 days a week= £200, 52weeks a year = £10,000. Who can afford to lose that amount of money, I can't ( before you say it I'm not a manager )

You're getting paid £100 a day?

wtf.

About £35,000 a year on top to come out with £100 a day. No idea what that job is with RM, but if they can't afford to strike then they couldn't afford to be a postman.

Work it out. £500 per week, £495 to be exact, divide by 5 equals approx. £100 a day before tax. Don't know what you are on about £35,000, if I was getting that I wouldn't compllain

So you don't lose £100 by striking. You lose about £63 from your pay packet and the taxman loses some plus your pension pot loses some.

[tractorboy2]

Ward should answer the question, come Xmas Eve, if it's true that it would be within RMs rights to sack strikers

Assuming they are will they really want to sack 100,000 strikers given they are getting enough bad publicity as it is already? What are they going to do after Christmas without any staff to deliver the mail?

It's probably a bit of a red herring put about by the pro- Thompson posters on here. RMT were out for about 5 months before they had to re-ballot.

Martin Walsh has been asked that question several times on here. He hasn't graced anyone with a response.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Ward should answer the question, come Xmas Eve, if it's true that it would be within RMs rights to sack strikers

Have u contacted your branch to ask this question?

It's true its in the legislation. https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-st ... %20dispute.

But it is unlikely given the number of people that are striking.

Your employment rights during industrial action
You have the right to take industrial action and you can’t be legally forced to stay at, or go back to, work (unless a ballot wasn’t organised properly).

If you take industrial action, you’ll probably have broken (be ‘in breach of’) your employment contract and your employer:

is unlikely to pay for the work you didn’t do when you took industrial action
can sue you for breaking your contract (this doesn’t happen often)
Taking industrial action doesn’t usually mean that your employer will say you’ve broken your period of continuous employment with them. This begins when you start working for your employer and ends on the day your employer uses to calculate your length of service.

However, if you take industrial action, your employer will reduce your length of service with them by the number of days you were on strike. This is important when working out your pension and things like statutory redundancy pay.

Dismissal for industrial action
You can’t be dismissed for industrial action if:

it’s called as a result of a properly organised ballot
it’s about a trade dispute between workers and their employer (eg about your terms and conditions)
a detailed notice about the industrial action (which is legally required) has been given to the employer at least 7 days before it begins
You can claim unfair dismissal at an employment tribunal if you’re dismissed for taking industrial action at any time within the 12 weeks after the action began.

After 12 weeks, you can be dismissed if you take industrial action and your employer has tried to settle the dispute. For example, your employer may bring in advisers from Acas to help find a solution.

When you may be dismissed
You could be dismissed for taking part in industrial action if:

the union hasn’t held a properly organised ballot
the union hasn’t given the employer the correct notice for balloting members or taking action
the union hasn’t called its members to take action because they think the dispute is settled or action is called by someone who doesn’t have the authority to do so
it’s in support of workers taking action against another employer (otherwise known as ‘sympathy’ or ‘secondary’ action)
it’s in support of only employing union members (otherwise known as a ‘closed shop’)
it breaks any other parts of industrial action law
If you take part in industrial action that breaks the regulations and you’re dismissed, you can’t usually claim unfair dismissal if all employees taking part are dismissed as well.

Industrial action by non-union members
Non-union members who take part in legal, official industrial action have the same rights as union members not to be dismissed as a result of taking action.