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RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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After 12 weeks, you can be dismissed if you take industrial action and your employer has tried to settle the dispute. For example, your employer may bring in advisers from Acas to help find a solution.


https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-st ... ial-action
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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redlen wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:32
After 12 weeks, you can be dismissed if you take industrial action and your employer has tried to settle the dispute. For example, your employer may bring in advisers from Acas to help find a solution.


https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-st ... ial-action
You continue with this tripe. You really believe that RM could simply dismiss 115,000 employees and still have a business to run?
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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That Tripe as you put it is Primary Legislation.

And personally have never stated dismissing 115,000 workers, so kindly stop putting words into my mouth
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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Go ahead an do it then make may day punk!
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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redlen wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:32
After 12 weeks, you can be dismissed if you take industrial action and your employer has tried to settle the dispute. For example, your employer may bring in advisers from Acas to help find a solution.


https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-st ... ial-action
It doesn't say you have to legally re-ballot after 12 weeks does it , you need to re-ballot every 6 months to keep the ballot legal
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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P13 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:39
redlen wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:32
After 12 weeks, you can be dismissed if you take industrial action and your employer has tried to settle the dispute. For example, your employer may bring in advisers from Acas to help find a solution.


https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-st ... ial-action
It doesn't say you have to legally re-ballot after 12 weeks does it , you need to re-ballot every 6 months to keep the ballot legal

How many times do I NEED TO SAY IT??

It is three months not six if ACAS have been involved
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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P13 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:39
redlen wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:32
After 12 weeks, you can be dismissed if you take industrial action and your employer has tried to settle the dispute. For example, your employer may bring in advisers from Acas to help find a solution.


https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-st ... ial-action
It doesn't say you have to legally re-ballot after 12 weeks does it , you need to re-ballot every 6 months to keep the ballot legal

How many times do I NEED TO SAY IT??

It is three months not six if ACAS have been involved if you want to continue strike action as the legal protections end
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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redlen wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:42
P13 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:39
redlen wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:32
After 12 weeks, you can be dismissed if you take industrial action and your employer has tried to settle the dispute. For example, your employer may bring in advisers from Acas to help find a solution.


https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-st ... ial-action
It doesn't say you have to legally re-ballot after 12 weeks does it , you need to re-ballot every 6 months to keep the ballot legal

How many times do I NEED TO SAY IT??

It is three months not six if ACAS have been involved if you want to continue strike action as the legal protections end
If we balloted tomorrow all the crap that zareena brown and simon thompson and rishi sunak came out with today we would get 99% biggest recruiting sergeants our union has ever had!
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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That might be so but will still take six weeks before you can strike again
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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Schiff wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:35
You really believe that RM could simply dismiss 115,000 employees and still have a business to run?
Akin to protestors saying 'they can't arrest us all'. They'll just get their 10% reduction from random dismissals. Fear of god stuff.
The machine stops.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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Thompson's a moron.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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Schiff wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:35
redlen wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:32
After 12 weeks, you can be dismissed if you take industrial action and your employer has tried to settle the dispute. For example, your employer may bring in advisers from Acas to help find a solution.


https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-st ... ial-action
You continue with this tripe. You really believe that RM could simply dismiss 115,000 employees and still have a business to run?
They could do an Asda, a few years back they gave all their staff new contracts, sign here or we will accept that as your resignation. You may not like it but the law is on their side here. They have tried (insincerely) to try and end this dispute. I have no idea what they will do 12 weeks in. The union have acknowledged this and stated legal advice will be taken before the date this could become a reality. ST has shown, he will do what he wants when he wants and to hell with the union. I wouldn't put anything past him.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

Post by Pidleypoo »

Surreypostie wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 18:38
Schiff wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:35
redlen wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:32
After 12 weeks, you can be dismissed if you take industrial action and your employer has tried to settle the dispute. For example, your employer may bring in advisers from Acas to help find a solution.


https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-st ... ial-action
You continue with this tripe. You really believe that RM could simply dismiss 115,000 employees and still have a business to run?
They could do an Asda, a few years back they gave all their staff new contracts, sign here or we will accept that as your resignation. You may not like it but the law is on their side here. They have tried (insincerely) to try and end this dispute. I have no idea what they will do 12 weeks in. The union have acknowledged this and stated legal advice will be taken before the date this could become a reality. ST has shown, he will do what he wants when he wants and to hell with the union. I wouldn't put anything past him.
Then do it , I’ll see them in a tribunal.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

Post by Pidleypoo »

Pidleypoo wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 18:44
Surreypostie wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 18:38
Schiff wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:35
redlen wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:32
After 12 weeks, you can be dismissed if you take industrial action and your employer has tried to settle the dispute. For example, your employer may bring in advisers from Acas to help find a solution.


https://www.gov.uk/industrial-action-st ... ial-action
You continue with this tripe. You really believe that RM could simply dismiss 115,000 employees and still have a business to run?
They could do an Asda, a few years back they gave all their staff new contracts, sign here or we will accept that as your resignation. You may not like it but the law is on their side here. They have tried (insincerely) to try and end this dispute. I have no idea what they will do 12 weeks in. The union have acknowledged this and stated legal advice will be taken before the date this could become a reality. ST has shown, he will do what he wants when he wants and to hell with the union. I wouldn't put anything past him.
Then do it , I’ll see them in a tribunal.
Also the Asda fire and rehire amounted to about 300 people , it wouldn’t be that here.
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Re: RMCtv : Simon Thompson : Worrying comments from Dave Ward on a picket line today, where he talks about striking until next Christmas.

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Tesco, British Gas as well as P&O have all sucessfully used it once they justified the economic survival of the business was at stake.

Simon Thompson continually saying losing a million a day are not just soundbites but carefully worded