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Breaking point

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Pidleypoo
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Re: Breaking point

Post by Pidleypoo »

supermandan2018 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:48
anTi wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:42
Weetrogg2 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:32
CABANA83 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:06
Spoke to 3 lads who together decided to go in today. All with young families and down to their last pennies. All have asked our union rep for help to be met with same "we're all in the same boat" answer. You can see the anguish they're are going through. Speaking to them it was very hard for me to feel any sort of anger towards them crossing the picket line.

Peoples savings are getting exhausted, mental health being kicked from pillar to post. You can talk about the future but for many its about the here and now.

So Royal Mail AND the CWU get this sorted, please.
A strike breaker is a strike breaker!!🤬🤬 There is no excuse, never ever cross a picket line .



Me and my wife both work for RM and I agree the financial strain is tough and causing issues but there is no excuse for going in✊✊✊
These strike breakers will only be too happy to benefit from any gains that result from strike action. If it were up to me any scab would have their pay and conditions frozen where they are. To Benefit from others sacrifices is not on!
And if it was up to me, bullies like you would be the 1st ones out the door, you live in a bygone error where you think intimidation and bullying is okay but bi**h and moan when Royal Mail bullies and harassess?? What do you think you’re doing to these young lads that are just trying to feed their kids. Look in a mirror, your no better than Royal Mail.
Given away that you’re a manager in that statement haven’t you.

Loads of them on here now , ignore.
supermandan2018
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Re: Breaking point

Post by supermandan2018 »

Pidleypoo wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:44
supermandan2018 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:42
bigal383 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:24
I have 3 young children my mrs is at uni these lads at breaking point iam at breaking point but I can see futhur past my end of my nose
There’s other jobs out there and help out there they can get at the moment

I’d rather be skint die on my feet than work for these Royal Mail twats at the moment
So you’d rather see Royal Mail go completely under and 115,000 people lose their jobs.
You’re complaining about there’s other jobs out there for these lads maybe it’s you who should be looking for other jobs if you’re no longer happy with your employment.
We are a private company and like any company whether I or anyone else like it is all about money for shareholders.

There are very few jobs out there that pay as well, yes there is a few but there are also very limited number of jobs where we get the perks we get.
Paid breaks, very good sick pay. And to be fair the wage isn’t awful.
You mean the perks that were hard fought for and if rm get their way , about to be removed.

Embarrassing.
Okay I’ll side with you, if you show me where it’s says that out paid breaks are being removed and the new sick pay is good, everyone I know gets minimal or statutory sick pay and we’re complaining about losing 3 days of our 2nd absence.
Or is it that people won’t be able to have 2 extra weeks leave every year???

People are starving, cold, homeless and we’re complaining about minimal changes to sick!!! In my mind you’re embarrassing.

Maybe the union should stop worrying about minor issues and try and sort out the bigger redundancy issues!!
CRIBMAD
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Re: Breaking point

Post by CRIBMAD »

supermandan2018 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:42
bigal383 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:24
I have 3 young children my mrs is at uni these lads at breaking point iam at breaking point but I can see futhur past my end of my nose
There’s other jobs out there and help out there they can get at the moment

I’d rather be skint die on my feet than work for these Royal Mail twats at the moment
So you’d rather see Royal Mail go completely under and 115,000 people lose their jobs.
You’re complaining about there’s other jobs out there for these lads maybe it’s you who should be looking for other jobs if you’re no longer happy with your employment.
We are a private company and like any company whether I or anyone else like it is all about money for shareholders.

There are very few jobs out there that pay as well, yes there is a few but there are also very limited number of jobs where we get the perks we get.
Paid breaks, very good sick pay. And to be fair the wage isn’t awful.
lol 3 post manager get a life !
CRIBMAD
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Re: Breaking point

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WILL ALL SIMONS TEAM - just fook off you bunch of w*****s !
supermandan2018
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Re: Breaking point

Post by supermandan2018 »

gb93 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:48
supermandan2018 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:42
bigal383 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:24
I have 3 young children my mrs is at uni these lads at breaking point iam at breaking point but I can see futhur past my end of my nose
There’s other jobs out there and help out there they can get at the moment

I’d rather be skint die on my feet than work for these Royal Mail twats at the moment
So you’d rather see Royal Mail go completely under and 115,000 people lose their jobs.
You’re complaining about there’s other jobs out there for these lads maybe it’s you who should be looking for other jobs if you’re no longer happy with your employment.
We are a private company and like any company whether I or anyone else like it is all about money for shareholders.

There are very few jobs out there that pay as well, yes there is a few but there are also very limited number of jobs where we get the perks we get.
Paid breaks, very good sick pay. And to be fair the wage isn’t awful.
Yeah & that's why those with a backbone are struggling but still fighting hard & not giving in with weak excuses to break strike

Have you got kids???
sindba
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Re: Breaking point

Post by sindba »

Strike breakers are benefitting from other people's sacrifices. It's parasitic.
sindba
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Re: Breaking point

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CRIBMAD wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:00
WILL ALL SIMONS TEAM - just fook off you bunch of w*****s !
:chuckle
walthmstowman
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Re: Breaking point

Post by walthmstowman »

antcpfc wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:16
Royal Mail want it sorted on their terms only. No problem with those who choose to go in but they should look for another job as they will not be able to live on what will be paid in the near future.
That's if they haven't been made compulsory redundant in the meantime
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Re: Breaking point

Post by clashcityrocker »

Pidleypoo wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:44
supermandan2018 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:42

Paid breaks, very good sick pay. And to be fair the wage isn’t awful.
You mean the perks that were hard fought for and if rm get their way, about to be removed.
When exactly did we fight for paid breaks or sick pay?
We were civil servants. We had civil service terms and conditions.

We also had a final salary pension. Now that would have been worth fighting to keep.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
Pidleypoo
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Re: Breaking point

Post by Pidleypoo »

clashcityrocker wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 17:08
Pidleypoo wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:44
supermandan2018 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:42

Paid breaks, very good sick pay. And to be fair the wage isn’t awful.
You mean the perks that were hard fought for and if rm get their way, about to be removed.
When exactly did we fight for paid breaks or sick pay?
We were civil servants. We had civil service terms and conditions.

We also had a final salary pension. Now that would have been worth fighting to keep.
Did I specify those ? I said perks that were hard fought for.
Weetrogg2
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Re: Breaking point

Post by Weetrogg2 »

supermandan2018 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:57
Pidleypoo wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:44
supermandan2018 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:42
bigal383 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:24
I have 3 young children my mrs is at uni these lads at breaking point iam at breaking point but I can see futhur past my end of my nose
There’s other jobs out there and help out there they can get at the moment

I’d rather be skint die on my feet than work for these Royal Mail twats at the moment
So you’d rather see Royal Mail go completely under and 115,000 people lose their jobs.
You’re complaining about there’s other jobs out there for these lads maybe it’s you who should be looking for other jobs if you’re no longer happy with your employment.
We are a private company and like any company whether I or anyone else like it is all about money for shareholders.

There are very few jobs out there that pay as well, yes there is a few but there are also very limited number of jobs where we get the perks we get.
Paid breaks, very good sick pay. And to be fair the wage isn’t awful.
You mean the perks that were hard fought for and if rm get their way , about to be removed.

Embarrassing.
Okay I’ll side with you, if you show me where it’s says that out paid breaks are being removed and the new sick pay is good, everyone I know gets minimal or statutory sick pay and we’re complaining about losing 3 days of our 2nd absence.
Or is it that people won’t be able to have 2 extra weeks leave every year???

People are starving, cold, homeless and we’re complaining about minimal changes to sick!!! In my mind you’re embarrassing.

Maybe the union should stop worrying about minor issues and try and sort out the bigger redundancy issues!!
Just imagine what RM would do without the union, new starters are already going to get unpaid breaks and 20% less pay 🤪🤪
walthmstowman
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Re: Breaking point

Post by walthmstowman »

supermandan2018 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:57
Pidleypoo wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:44
supermandan2018 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:42
bigal383 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:24
I have 3 young children my mrs is at uni these lads at breaking point iam at breaking point but I can see futhur past my end of my nose
There’s other jobs out there and help out there they can get at the moment

I’d rather be skint die on my feet than work for these Royal Mail twats at the moment
So you’d rather see Royal Mail go completely under and 115,000 people lose their jobs.
You’re complaining about there’s other jobs out there for these lads maybe it’s you who should be looking for other jobs if you’re no longer happy with your employment.
We are a private company and like any company whether I or anyone else like it is all about money for shareholders.

There are very few jobs out there that pay as well, yes there is a few but there are also very limited number of jobs where we get the perks we get.
Paid breaks, very good sick pay. And to be fair the wage isn’t awful.
You mean the perks that were hard fought for and if rm get their way , about to be removed.

Embarrassing.
Okay I’ll side with you, if you show me where it’s says that out paid breaks are being removed and the new sick pay is good, everyone I know gets minimal or statutory sick pay and we’re complaining about losing 3 days of our 2nd absence.
Or is it that people won’t be able to have 2 extra weeks leave every year???

People are starving, cold, homeless and we’re complaining about minimal changes to sick!!! In my mind you’re embarrassing.

Maybe the union should stop worrying about minor issues and try and sort out the bigger redundancy issues!!
For me the compulsory redundancies is the main issue .
k979aaa
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Re: Breaking point

Post by k979aaa »

This is a battle for human decency this is not some union barons but peoples lives and livelihoods here we are fighting for and to hear rishi sunak today really told us all what the hell he thinks of us all.
Sorry but with piss poor leadership the ship is sinking into the abyss just like royal mail why because of piss poor leadership and a blame everybody else no responsibility no respect for anything just. ME ME ME ME
supermandan2018
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Re: Breaking point

Post by supermandan2018 »

Weetrogg2 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:54
supermandan2018 wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:37
CRIBMAD wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:24
Foxel wrote:
30 Nov 2022, 16:22
Sadly this is exactly what RM wants, you on your knees ready to accept anything.
:Applause :Applause :Applause :Applause capitulation ! it sickens me
And comments like this sicken me when 3 young lads are at there wits ends and being told to basically let your family suffer and support a union that has little help or support available but want our support 100% ??? Irony?? They want your support but have no support for struggling members?

So these people that think it’s wrong would they see these lads kids suffer, starve, be homeless?? Bet the union won’t pay his rent/mortgage!!
No they won’t and I wouldn’t expect them to, I expect my union to get me reasonable pay and decent T&Cs which we currently have (because of the union) and the reason we’re striking is because the business want to remove that.

If people can’t afford too or are not willing too lose £400 a month to keep these T&Cs how the hell will they survive on SSP or when there supplements are taken away??? If we lose this dispute RM will remove everything we currently have.

No excuse for strike breaking ✊✊✊
That’s funny. It’s amazing that Unite and unisons pay their members to strike, yet CWU don’t, you know why because it’s an incentive for them to strike deals.

Yes there are terms and conditions being lost but not all of them.
People say Royal Mail are a dictatorship but it goes both ways, both need to come to a deal soon, we may not like it but we as the union need to concede on some issues otherwise we aren’t negotiating and we’re no better than Thompson.

Are you kidding, the SSP is for 3 days, we’ve lost more than that striking.

And there is the big issue, SUPPLEMENTS, guess you’re an ex PHG being paid a job you haven’t done since 2000, but hay we don’t have a 2 tier workforce cause that’s what the union are fighting against!!

Are you aware that under the pathway to change agreement they couldn’t touch our terms and conditions, until we initiated Industrial action which voided the agreement, but CWU forget to mention this fact.

Thompson baited Ward and he fell into the trap.

FYI £700 lost for me if all strikes go ahead this month.
CRIBMAD
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Re: Breaking point

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yet another manager for the ignore list :wave :wave :wave :wave