Thompson letter

[Acca Dacca]

It says functional supplement “removed” in original offer and now it says remains in the “improved offer”

The delivery supplement was never proposed to be removed

So that’s a lie

[redlen]

Meanwhile BT employees getting a 16% pay rise.


Working for Royal Mail isn't going to be worth it on those terms, Thompson. Other businesses are coming to their senses and paying 10%+ pay rises.

Good luck employing tens of thousands of people on lower wages with terrible terms and conditions.

It is anything from 6% to 16% pay rise depending on what grade the employee is

[arsenalbob]

So why don’t the CWU put the best and final offer to the membership? Surely it’s for us to reject and not for them to reject on our behalf? Whichever way the majority vote the minority will have to accept. That’s how ballots work.

did you not read this in the full and final agreement

"Offer is conditional on the CWU withdrawing all Industrial Action and balloting our members on the offer, which if rejected would not re-ballot their members for Industrial Action on Pay or Change matters, plus no further ballots for Industrial Action linked to proposed headcount reductions or the VR terms."

no one in their right mind would agree to that

There’s lots on here not in their right mind. If the offer is rejected then the conditions attached to the offer are rejected as well.

[Dexydog]

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[chickenwittle]

So why don’t the CWU put the best and final offer to the membership? Surely it’s for us to reject and not for them to reject on our behalf? Whichever way the majority vote the minority will have to accept. That’s how ballots work.

did you not read this in the full and final agreement

"Offer is conditional on the CWU withdrawing all Industrial Action and balloting our members on the offer, which if rejected would not re-ballot their members for Industrial Action on Pay or Change matters, plus no further ballots for Industrial Action linked to proposed headcount reductions or the VR terms."

no one in their right mind would agree to that

There’s lots on here not in their right mind. If the offer is rejected then the conditions attached to the offer are rejected as well.

No union worth it’s salt is putting this agreement to its members in its current form , not only is it a bad deal for us , if accepted the union would be removed from the workplace and finished.

[POSTMAN]

Something is not right here, is Thompson completely lying, or have I got this wrong.
He states that the CWU's counter-proposal was sent on the 27th Nov and it's only 1 page long, but what I can see is this, which is the 21st...
LTB 458/22 - ROYAL MAIL GROUP: CWU PROPOSAL TO RMG TO RESOLVE THE PAY & CHANGE DISPUTES

Fixed broken link-cheers argy

[ninja22]

21st was day of the cwu proposal, several pages. They rejected ST offer, they had a deadline by 5pm on Monday 21st.

[blacov]

Surely everyone can see that Simon intention is to destroy cwu not to agree a deal. He tries to bully his way through by intimidation and threats .He's known since the beginning his "improved" offer will be rejected.

I would like to ask cwu leaders what it is they are asking for on our behalf? I mean I believe it is not more money rather than offer being backdated to April. What are the changes cwu is looking to get dropped? I am aware the list is quite extensive at the moment but to calm its members it would be nice to know what would be acceptable for cwu.

Otherwise with Simon in charge this can go on forever, or until it is sold off and then god knows what happen. I still believe this game is about the gls to become separate and then run letters to the wall so government has to give in on the uso or bail us out.

[k979aaa]

Thompson is delusional he probably has a bunker somewhere and a load of generals telling him everything is fine and they are close to winning the war. How wrong he is this is just the start by the end of this the cyanide pills will be made available to him and is henchmen and they can look forward to a long time behind bars if they don't take the easy option!

[world class male]

Time to ramp up these strikes. Thompson is as bad at his job as Ward and Pullinger are at theirs.

Until Thompson decides to get realistic about his "best and final" offer of a massive real terms pay cut, I will provide him with a massive real terms effort cut. Less money buys less work done.

just about this
i'm always willing (or was) to go the extra mile but now feeling less inclined to do so these days, they can time whatever they want and they won't get me on efficiency, or these days just a tad under now and again

well done simon thompson you absolute tool, you are a complete waste of space that even the tory government would grimace at your entrance if you entered politics, he has single handily alienated all of us grafters who earned shareholders millions during their bonus covid pandemic and totally spunk it all up the wall
i've got very very hard working colleagues/friends who have put in for evr at the even reduced rate just to get out of this s**t hole, and they probably won't get it

[Mungeys]

When it feels like we're not getting anywhere, remember that Thompson himself has said that strikes lose the company millions - we can re-ballot and strike for as long as it takes, is he really going to just let the company continue losing money? More importantly, are his shareholders?

[k979aaa]

Well dodgy dealings do get investigated even in Italy https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63785489 And some dodgy dealings have been going on in Royal Mail and needs investigating!

[kazardaimenu]

It’s clear his offer won’t benefit the company just piss off the workers and the Union. His objective is to bring the Union down but he will bring the company down first. His final final offer has no merit.

Nonsense to move start times 2 hours later to accommodate a couple of people buying trainers online at the stroke of midnight.

Redundancies and revisions that will mean no office will have a chance of clearing even during lighter days.

And terrible terms for new entrants that will leave after a few months.

[CRIBMAD]

Thompson is delusional he probably has a bunker somewhere and a load of generals telling him everything is fine and they are close to winning the war. How wrong he is this is just the start by the end of this the cyanide pills will be made available to him and is henchmen and they can look forward to a long time behind bars if they don't take the easy option!

DONT MENTION THE WAR ! ( i mentioned it once but i think i got away with it )

[tractorboy2]

Was the letter written by Moya Greene it uses the term "our people" and not "team".