TALKING COLLEAGUES OUT OF CROSSING THE PICKET LINE

[k979aaa]

Look if anyone cannot not afford a strike go get another job paying minimum wage working a till or cutting hair or arranging flowers for a living it is not hard to do. We do a hard job for the pitance we get paid most leave doing this job after a few weeks why do you not see that your wages are going to go down if we don't win.
Not just by inflation but be cut because your employer knows he can replace you by cheaper workers or even give you lower pay make a stand now so you don't have to later!

Try having these conversations to an Asda or Tesco driver who work for like £2 less an hour delivering your groceries on a Sunday evening. They would laugh at some of things we are striking for. We deliver mail, some of which goes straight in the bin without even getting looked at. Its not rocket science. Yes it can be hard on the body, but theres a lot of people out there doing harder jobs for less than a postman.

You just don't get what the hell your doing to your own body do you as time goes on you will!

What walking 10 miles a day?
I run 50 miles a week and do marathons in the summer pal. The wear and tear on the body ain't coming from the walking at work.

Well working with 15kg on one side will effect you in time trust me i did 30 plus years of it not a five minute wonder like you are!

[redlen]

Well that is a non issue if people actually used the mandatory equipment such as trollies instead of cutting the job up

[DaveF14]

Look if anyone cannot not afford a strike go get another job paying minimum wage working a till or cutting hair or arranging flowers for a living it is not hard to do. We do a hard job for the pitance we get paid most leave doing this job after a few weeks why do you not see that your wages are going to go down if we don't win.
Not just by inflation but be cut because your employer knows he can replace you by cheaper workers or even give you lower pay make a stand now so you don't have to later!

Try having these conversations to an Asda or Tesco driver who work for like £2 less an hour delivering your groceries on a Sunday evening. They would laugh at some of things we are striking for. We deliver mail, some of which goes straight in the bin without even getting looked at. Its not rocket science. Yes it can be hard on the body, but theres a lot of people out there doing harder jobs for less than a postman.

You just don't get what the hell your doing to your own body do you as time goes on you will!

What walking 10 miles a day?
I run 50 miles a week and do marathons in the summer pal. The wear and tear on the body ain't coming from the walking at work.

Well working with 15kg on one side will effect you in time trust me i did 30 plus years of it not a five minute wonder like you are!

For the next 30 plus years, try putting that 15kg bag on the other side. You'll be sorted pal....

[clashcityrocker]

Try using a trolley.
Like you are supposed to.

[k979aaa]

Try using a trolley.
Like you are supposed to.

DiD not have them when I started!

[richietns]

Other Unions such as UNITE give strike pay that helps

People need to start accepting at the top of the CWU mass protracted walkouts no longer work. The Miners strike proved that. The old strategy of walkouts have been banished to history.

People are now paying on average £100 a month more on their mortgage and will increase over the next 12 months. Then utility bills as well as petrol and inflation

Financial institutions will screw you with penalty fees and charges for missed payments compounding that misery.

Then you have employees already with County Court Judgements who have to pay a fixed sum ordered by the court.

If you can afford to walk than fine, but do not demonise the employee with a home and kids to support already on the breadline. That is a form of bullying no matter how you dress it up.

Yet they have worked for the past 30 years,are you suggesting that we just give up.

[rambo1]

Quite a rumble of voices talking of crossing the picket line this last week.

I've had to persuade 4 separate members to resist this temptation.

I sympathise because of the frustration they feel with losing money, and the prospect of losing more.

Striking over a long period is the toughest part. It's a mental struggle. Action should have been stronger and more swift. It's been dragged out for too long. The negotiations are a sideshow, nothing will be resolved.

Find a way to get through this. Talk about it with your workmates. People are there to help.

Don't cross. Show our strength.

Persuade. Is that in the same way a manager might 'persuade' you to finish your walk or take lapsing.
It's bullying and you know it.

[macthejaffa]

You can defer mortgage payments for up to 3 months easily

I’ve tried, unsuccessfully, on several occasions to arrange something with my mortgage provider during the strike periods but I’m met with a stonewall NO. Just part of my path to getting to this horrible point. I’ve literally tried everything, I’ve worked my arse off for this company for over 16 years and don’t think we deserve to be put through this and despair that I’ve reached breaking point. There’s just no other option to me, but nice to know that many can’t accept individual circumstances and that strike days just mean a days jolly workout a second thought.

[POSTPERSON50]

Quite a rumble of voices talking of crossing the picket line this last week.

I've had to persuade 4 separate members to resist this temptation.

I sympathise because of the frustration they feel with losing money, and the prospect of losing more.

Striking over a long period is the toughest part. It's a mental struggle. Action should have been stronger and more swift. It's been dragged out for too long. The negotiations are a sideshow, nothing will be resolved.

Find a way to get through this. Talk about it with your workmates. People are there to help.

Don't cross. Show our strength.

Persuade. Is that in the same way a manager might 'persuade' you to finish your walk or take lapsing.
It's bullying and you know it.

Bullying is a generic term. If putting my arm around my mates and 'persuading' them to continue to support the strike action when they are desperately unsure of what to do is bullying, well okay.

What I'm seeing is members who have already decided to cross the picket line encouraging others to do the same to relieve their own conscience, for me, that is far worse.

It dilutes the gravity of this dispute. If 15 or 20% choose to cross the picket lines, we are done.

That's where the real rift will come between the workforce.

[redlen]

Bullying is the use of force, coercion, heartful teasing or threat, to abuse, aggressively dominate or intimidate

[CRIBMAD]

Sorry all, I completely disagree- this needs to be an individuals decision, at the end of the day, it’s their livelihood that’s at steak, if you are unable to afford to strike and its having an impact financially that’s causing you to struggle to either pay your mortgage, rent provide for your family,pay bills,then what should really stop you from coming into work? If that’s the best decision for you, everyone needs to ease up, no one else is going to give you a days wages because you have stood at the picket line… by all means show your support, strike if & when you can, I’m not against it, but if you need to cross the picket line, that’s a individuals decision and they should be respected regardless of what they choose to do- especially in these tough time, just put yourselves in their shoes for a little…

1ST post mmmmmm - Hi simon (or on of his great team) good effort but no cigar !

[CRIBMAD]

We have got too keep striking or there is no future in the job
It means they are winning,

I’ve got to keep working else I’ll lose my house.

I’m in an impossible situation

I truly sympathise with you and people who are in your position. These planned strikes will go ahead, and there is no realistic end in sight.

People would have lost their houses even WITHOUT striking such is the current money crisis. Some people are suicidal with worry and the distress this situation is causing.

I believe the vast majority of us could have just about afforded to lose one weeks' pay in October, an action which would have stopped the business in it's tracks immediately and would have had an immediate effect on this dispute. People said 'No no no, losing a full week of pay is too much to ask', but just look at what money we are losing now bang on Christmas time.

Simple solution - go off sick for a month or two - quite a few have in our office - SORTED !

[clashcityrocker]

1ST post mmmmmm - Hi simon (or on of his great team) good effort but no cigar !

Cribmad 28/3:
as a union member for 50 years i have to say we have been sold down the river by this union!

Mmmmmmmmm - Simon in disguise?

[POSTPERSON50]

We have got too keep striking or there is no future in the job
It means they are winning,

I’ve got to keep working else I’ll lose my house.

I’m in an impossible situation

I truly sympathise with you and people who are in your position. These planned strikes will go ahead, and there is no realistic end in sight.

People would have lost their houses even WITHOUT striking such is the current money crisis. Some people are suicidal with worry and the distress this situation is causing.

I believe the vast majority of us could have just about afforded to lose one weeks' pay in October, an action which would have stopped the business in it's tracks immediately and would have had an immediate effect on this dispute. People said 'No no no, losing a full week of pay is too much to ask', but just look at what money we are losing now bang on Christmas time.

Simple solution - go off sick for a month or two - quite a few have in our office - SORTED !

Yes, if you're stressed to that degree, take a time out for the sake of your well being.

[CRIBMAD]

get a grip ! we have not been out for about 4 weeks so whats with all the moaning ? jesus H if you have not been sensible enough to put a bit away to cover these strike dates thats your fault ! hammer the ot , work your days off like most of the other greedies ! I am embarrassed to keep hearing about people wanting to stick two fingers up to their workmates and cross picket lines , lowest of the low IMO !