TALKING COLLEAGUES OUT OF CROSSING THE PICKET LINE

[DaveF14]

Has many used the hardship fund? Its there to be used is it not?

The union must take in over £20 million a year in sub money. How much of that is wasted each year? No strike in what 9 years, 20 million each year, wheres all that gone?
Look its all individual choice. Some can maybe take the hit, some live from one wage packet to the next. Its wrong that the postie has had to take on this choice for so long now. We all know how awkward Royal mail have been in these negotiation's. Have the union done everything they can to hurry up these talks? I don't know. That's the question for me.
Personally Ive taken off all the strike days up until now but its now hitting me hard that I cant carry on doing it. Been in the job for 21 years and was in the union up until around 6 months ago. My local rep is a complete c*** using PDA actuals to get fellow posties in trouble and had way to much say in the last revision to shaft people he didnt like and reward himself and his fellow mates with lighter duties making duties more unbalanced than they ever where. The union are from perfect. But thats just my opinion.

[taurus88]

I just don’t understand the short-termism of those looking to cross the picket lines.

Inflation will stay above 10%. Mortgage rates will continue to rise. Corporate greed isn’t going to go away.

If you don’t secure a good pay rise now, you’re only delaying the inevitable. Barely affording to live today will become can’t afford to live next Christmas.

And you won’t have any collective bargaining to rely on because the strikes were broken and the union became irrelevant.

This is last-chance saloon if we’ve any hope of the job paying a living wage while still being tolerable. If enough members cross the picket lines, we’re digging our own graves.

[redlen]

Try saying that to the employee wondering where the next £10 is for the electric metre. Currently employees are using food banks

[k979aaa]

Look if anyone cannot not afford a strike go get another job paying minimum wage working a till or cutting hair or arranging flowers for a living it is not hard to do. We do a hard job for the pitance we get paid most leave doing this job after a few weeks why do you not see that your wages are going to go down if we don't win.
Not just by inflation but be cut because your employer knows he can replace you by cheaper workers or even give you lower pay make a stand now so you don't have to later!

[redlen]

That does not answer the question where the employee is getting the money to put in the electric metre so they can stand on the picket line.

You have no idea on a persons individual financial standing to comment.

Will you step in personally and donate out of your own wages to that employee??

How about Council Tax or rent which are priority debts that have to be paid?

[SpacePhoenix]

That does not answer the question where the employee is getting the money to put in the electric metre so they can stand on the picket line.

You have no idea on a persons individual financial standing to comment.

Will you step in personally and donate out of your own wages to that employee??

How about Council Tax or rent which are priority debts that have to be paid?

Where will they get their money from if we roll over and RM get their way? RM would then probably drop everyone to minimum wage and axe all allowances (think there's a good chance that they'll come for all allowances over the next 6 months)

[DaveF14]

Look if anyone cannot not afford a strike go get another job paying minimum wage working a till or cutting hair or arranging flowers for a living it is not hard to do. We do a hard job for the pitance we get paid most leave doing this job after a few weeks why do you not see that your wages are going to go down if we don't win.
Not just by inflation but be cut because your employer knows he can replace you by cheaper workers or even give you lower pay make a stand now so you don't have to later!

Try having these conversations to an Asda or Tesco driver who work for like £2 less an hour delivering your groceries on a Sunday evening. They would laugh at some of things we are striking for. We deliver mail, some of which goes straight in the bin without even getting looked at. Its not rocket science. Yes it can be hard on the body, but theres a lot of people out there doing harder jobs for less than a postman.

[k979aaa]

Look if anyone cannot not afford a strike go get another job paying minimum wage working a till or cutting hair or arranging flowers for a living it is not hard to do. We do a hard job for the pitance we get paid most leave doing this job after a few weeks why do you not see that your wages are going to go down if we don't win.
Not just by inflation but be cut because your employer knows he can replace you by cheaper workers or even give you lower pay make a stand now so you don't have to later!

Try having these conversations to an Asda or Tesco driver who work for like £2 less an hour delivering your groceries on a Sunday evening. They would laugh at some of things we are striking for. We deliver mail, some of which goes straight in the bin without even getting looked at. Its not rocket science. Yes it can be hard on the body, but theres a lot of people out there doing harder jobs for less than a postman.

You just don't get what the hell your doing to your own body do you as time goes on you will!

[POSTPERSON50]

Look if anyone cannot not afford a strike go get another job paying minimum wage working a till or cutting hair or arranging flowers for a living it is not hard to do. We do a hard job for the pitance we get paid most leave doing this job after a few weeks why do you not see that your wages are going to go down if we don't win.
Not just by inflation but be cut because your employer knows he can replace you by cheaper workers or even give you lower pay make a stand now so you don't have to later!

Try having these conversations to an Asda or Tesco driver who work for like £2 less an hour delivering your groceries on a Sunday evening. They would laugh at some of things we are striking for. We deliver mail, some of which goes straight in the bin without even getting looked at. Its not rocket science. Yes it can be hard on the body, but theres a lot of people out there doing harder jobs for less than a postman.

All struggles are relative. That Tesco driver isn't a nurse doing 12 1/2 hour shifts for peanuts.

The problem for us is actually having any kind of post job left in the near future.

[macthejaffa]

Simons pals and boys on now I see

Not at all, I’m16 years service and am totally against everything that RM top brass and managers are trying to do.
I’ve always taken pride in my job and helped in the local community where I’ve delivered at every opportunity. I’m totally against capitalism, the Tory way and how those like ST are allowed to get away with what they do.
Just because my personal circumstance doesn’t match anything you can agree with or even slightly empathise with says that you’re clearly ok with your bills and for that I’m happy for you. I’m not ok with my bills so have to act in mine and my family’s best interests.
Something has to give, and believe me crossing that line is going to have to be the thing.

[DaveF14]

Look if anyone cannot not afford a strike go get another job paying minimum wage working a till or cutting hair or arranging flowers for a living it is not hard to do. We do a hard job for the pitance we get paid most leave doing this job after a few weeks why do you not see that your wages are going to go down if we don't win.
Not just by inflation but be cut because your employer knows he can replace you by cheaper workers or even give you lower pay make a stand now so you don't have to later!

Try having these conversations to an Asda or Tesco driver who work for like £2 less an hour delivering your groceries on a Sunday evening. They would laugh at some of things we are striking for. We deliver mail, some of which goes straight in the bin without even getting looked at. Its not rocket science. Yes it can be hard on the body, but theres a lot of people out there doing harder jobs for less than a postman.

You just don't get what the hell your doing to your own body do you as time goes on you will!

What walking 10 miles a day?
I run 50 miles a week and do marathons in the summer pal. The wear and tear on the body ain't coming from the walking at work.

[k979aaa]

Look if anyone cannot not afford a strike go get another job paying minimum wage working a till or cutting hair or arranging flowers for a living it is not hard to do. We do a hard job for the pitance we get paid most leave doing this job after a few weeks why do you not see that your wages are going to go down if we don't win.
Not just by inflation but be cut because your employer knows he can replace you by cheaper workers or even give you lower pay make a stand now so you don't have to later!

Try having these conversations to an Asda or Tesco driver who work for like £2 less an hour delivering your groceries on a Sunday evening. They would laugh at some of things we are striking for. We deliver mail, some of which goes straight in the bin without even getting looked at. Its not rocket science. Yes it can be hard on the body, but theres a lot of people out there doing harder jobs for less than a postman.

All struggles are relative. That Tesco driver isn't a nurse doing 12 1/2 hour shifts for peanuts.

The problem for us is actually having any kind of post job left in the near future.

We have 30% of the market for parcels and packets? But we do need change but as and how fast and the terms should be ours to decide not market forces or greedy CEO's!

[DaveF14]

Simons pals and boys on now I see

Not at all, I’m16 years service and am totally against everything that RM top brass and managers are trying to do.
I’ve always taken pride in my job and helped in the local community where I’ve delivered at every opportunity. I’m totally against capitalism, the Tory way and how those like ST are allowed to get away with what they do.
Just because my personal circumstance doesn’t match anything you can agree with or even slightly empathise with says that you’re clearly ok with your bills and for that I’m happy for you. I’m not ok with my bills so have to act in mine and my family’s best interests.
Something has to give, and believe me crossing that line is going to have to be the thing.

Agreed.

[SogladIvotedBrexit]

ppppp

[redlen]

Typical retort

When you get down to the basics on what a strike does to personal finances, out come the insults as that is all they have left as a counter measure rather than objectivity