Part timers and the loss of pride in the job.

[BELIAL]

Are Walmart still totally banned from operating in America's most populated state ,California because of their shocking disregard for labour laws?

[coaster]

Meal reliefs:

From the Way Forward Agreement:

3 hours 31 to 4 hours 59 20 mins 20
5 hours to 7 hours 30mins 30


In order to qualify for a 30 minute break on a 25 hour duty you would need to EXCEED 5 hours per day.

Thought you would need to exceed 4hrs 59m actually, which you do, so 30 mins.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Are Walmart still totally banned from operating in America's most populated state ,California because of their shocking disregard for labour laws?

Apparently so here is a report from 2004

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0408/p03s01-ussc.html

and another about San Diego from 2006

http://www.planetizen.com/node/22048

[dvbuk55]

Meal reliefs:

From the Way Forward Agreement:

3 hours 31 to 4 hours 59 20 mins 20
5 hours to 7 hours 30mins 30


In order to qualify for a 30 minute break on a 25 hour duty you would need to EXCEED 5 hours per day.

Thought you would need to exceed 4hrs 59m actually, which you do, so 30 mins.

I won't labour a point coaster BUT I did check when I had buy down two years ago and it IS 20 minutes - the official line was it would be ambiguous to use the same time for 20 and 30 minutes so the assumed time was 4.59.59 - still if you're getting 30 minutes ...................

[NewPostieUK]

Some days my shift is 6 hours and I've been told I still get 20 mins. I'm going to see the rep about it.

[dvbuk55]

Some days my shift is 6 hours and I've been told I still get 20 mins. I'm going to see the rep about it.

What makes it six? Overtime or shorter shifts on other days?

[coaster]

Meal reliefs:

From the Way Forward Agreement:

3 hours 31 to 4 hours 59 20 mins 20
5 hours to 7 hours 30mins 30


In order to qualify for a 30 minute break on a 25 hour duty you would need to EXCEED 5 hours per day.

Thought you would need to exceed 4hrs 59m actually, which you do, so 30 mins.

I won't labour a point coaster BUT I did check when I had buy down two years ago and it IS 20 minutes - the official line was it would be ambiguous to use the same time for 20 and 30 minutes so the assumed time was 4.59.59 - still if you're getting 30 minutes ...................

Its very curious to say the least, thanks for clearing that up :)

[NewPostieUK]

Some days my shift is 6 hours and I've been told I still get 20 mins. I'm going to see the rep about it.

What makes it six? Overtime or shorter shifts on other days?

Six is the long! Shorts are 5 hours and longs are 6. I'm P/T. My contracted hours are 25 a week but I've never worked that since I started (3 months).

[dvbuk55]

Some days my shift is 6 hours and I've been told I still get 20 mins. I'm going to see the rep about it.

What makes it six? Overtime or shorter shifts on other days?

Six is the long! Shorts are 5 hours and longs are 6. I'm P/T. My contracted hours are 25 a week but I've never worked that since I started (3 months).

So your actual hours are 5 a day x 5 and the longs are overtime presumably - I am not entirely sure that would entitle you to extra break time because your contracted hours are 25 but I would guess it's worth pursuing.

[ten_mile]

In my office the full timers generally....

a. Finish before their time and have the easiest duties/walks.

b. Get the best paid overtime (SCHED ATT).

c. Get paid for hours they don't work.

d. Get time off/days off when they want them.

e. Have time to take their breaks in the morning (and more) before they leave the office.


If all the above apply then they're usually made into line managers. FACT.


I was willing to put up with this when I first started 7 years ago as I was told that I too would join the gravy train someday....It doesn't look like this is gonna happen now with full time positions only being filled with part time posts of 20 hours a week.

My office is 60% Part time.

IMO the part timers get the work done and are carrying the full timers.

[pinstripe]

In my office the full timers generally....

a. Finish before their time and have the easiest duties/walks.

b. Get the best paid overtime (SCHED ATT).

c. Get paid for hours they don't work.

d. Get time off/days off when they want them.

e. Have time to take their breaks in the morning (and more) before they leave the office.


If all the above apply then they're usually made into line managers. FACT.


I was willing to put up with this when I first started 7 years ago as I was told that I too would join the gravy train someday....It doesn't look like this is gonna happen now with full time positions only being filled with part time posts of 20 hours a week.

My office is 60% Part time.

IMO the part timers get the work done and are carrying the full timers.

You've noticed then. Before the F/T ers start having a go, complaining that they are throwing off walks for the part timers, etc, they have to remember that they are getting paid for this in their duty time, thereby PROTECTING their full time positions.

Every office is different, and part timers are treated differently in every one, some good, some not. Full timers should realise that P/T staff have on the most part been lied to, promises of a full time job etc, only to be treated as a second class employees by RM and treated like dirt by some Full Timers who should know better. Like it or not, part timers are here to stay, get used to it, if we don't stop fighting between ourselves, you'll all be either part time or unemployed when RM destroy the union. (If you treat almost what 30-40% of the workforce as your enemy, they're unlikely to keep supporting you are they.)

I have to disagree that if all the above apply, then they are promoted to management, you have to take out SA, but all the rest seem true, easiest duty, paid for hours they don't work, time off when they want and time for break(s), they don't need promoted they're got it already.

[dvbuk55]

In my office the full timers generally....

a. Finish before their time and have the easiest duties/walks.

b. Get the best paid overtime (SCHED ATT).

c. Get paid for hours they don't work.

d. Get time off/days off when they want them.

e. Have time to take their breaks in the morning (and more) before they leave the office.


If all the above apply then they're usually made into line managers. FACT.


I was willing to put up with this when I first started 7 years ago as I was told that I too would join the gravy train someday....It doesn't look like this is gonna happen now with full time positions only being filled with part time posts of 20 hours a week.

My office is 60% Part time.

IMO the part timers get the work done and are carrying the full timers.

If I go back full time are there any vacancies at your place?

[doveston]

In my office the full timers generally....

a. Finish before their time and have the easiest duties/walks.

b. Get the best paid overtime (SCHED ATT).

c. Get paid for hours they don't work.

d. Get time off/days off when they want them.

e. Have time to take their breaks in the morning (and more) before they leave the office.


IMO the part timers get the work done and are carrying the full timers.

[norbert]

We are all in this together and we will all go down together if TRUE leadership is not shown by OUR leaders! I am just waiting for the day that they do what they are paid to do and represent us at a NATIONAL level instead of wringing their hands saying things have to change because RM are in a bad way and ignoring the fact that much of the problems of RM are not because of either full or part time posties but the ineptitude of our own union leaders, managment and goverment and then putting the work they are paid to do on our hard pressed reps to sort out instead of ATTACKING the true cause of these problems which is both managment and goverment made and controlled and allowing a workforce to become devided down the lines of full and part time workers because the key is we are all workers and all victims of HQ, RM and Goverment. We have to stand together!

It also works against the hard pressed reps that you mention e.g. "These ( Area & Unit ) reps have a lot of time in , some are ex PHG's , they're waiting for the money off RM , or they'll come back as AG's , the gravy train , feathering their own nests , looking after No.1 , they'd have us down the road with state minimum notice according to some grades meetings and stitch up the schedy and docket etc ".

Not entirely true but it's what people say and RM must love it , the whole idea of The Way Backward was to dilute this heavily unionised full time workforce . Big Al wants the ASDA model which is a lot of part time staff reliant on Tax Credits , Housing Benefit and other welfare benefits . RM didn't study TNT Post in Holland for nothing .

The only good thing I can say about RM having all these AG's, was it was better than the old system which people could be cassies for up to 18 months , then TC's , then AG 's on fixed term , then substantive eventually .It isn't that long ago that RM had AG's in on six days .

The problem in 2003 was you could be losing pay or on a line with people who wanted you out the building . RM has lots of greedy ,divided & soulless DC's and MC's .

[L Tommo]

In my office the full timers generally....

a. Finish before their time and have the easiest duties/walks. (SENIORITY)

b. Get the best paid overtime (SCHED ATT). (CRAP)

c. Get paid for hours they don't work. (PROVE IT?)

d. Get time off/days off when they want them. (SOUR GRAPES/RUBBISH)

e. Have time to take their breaks in the morning (and more) before they leave the office. (DO THE JOB PROPERLY AND SO SHOULD YOU)


If all the above apply then they're usually made into line managers. FACT. (BULLSHITE)


I was willing to put up with this when I first started 7 years ago as I was told that I too would join the gravy train someday....It doesn't look like this is gonna happen now with full time positions only being filled with part time posts of 20 hours a week.

My office is 60% Part time.

IMO the part timers get the work done and are carrying the full timers.

(GROW UP)


IMO.... If all the members of the CWU had this opinion then RM Screws have there job done for them...

ONE WORD... SENIORITY....